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More Dangers Of Pork
muman613:
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--- Quote from: Shamgar on April 30, 2009, 09:42:22 PM ---The next war will be fought with Bacon.
There is a muzzie school in Alpharetta and it is located in a strip mall right next to the McDonalds that I stop at every morning. I get my iced coffee and an order of bacon. I then drive past the school and throw the bacon out on the sidewalk in front of the school. They hate me as well because I have a large Israeli flag on the back window of my truck. Life it good.
G-d is just way to good to us.
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I would hate you too if you did that in front of my house, or my shul. I used to love bacon but because I have been kosher for six years I try hard to avoid it. The only respite is Turkey bacon which is close but not quite the taste of the real thing.
Muman, I would only throw flowers in front of your house. ;D
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I would appreciate that... I love flowers... It is such a beautiful spring up here in NorCal and my yard is blooming now. I also love the fragrance of Lilac which I smell on my drive to work each day. Springtime is always so beautiful it is an inspiration.
Thank you
Sefardic Panther:
Kahane-Was-Right BT Torah repeatedly says that the pig is the ultimate symbol of treif and now the pig is proven to be flooded with all kinds of deadly diseases. Do you think this is a coincidence?
And yes I do know about avian bird flu but the diseases from Kosher animals are not as common or as lethal as the diseases from treif animals.
Since you mention avian bird flu here are articles that say bird flu may have originated from pig farming –
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2005/aug/24/health.birdflu1
http://www.planetark.org/dailynewsstory.cfm/newsid/34207/story.htm
I am sick and tired of hearing atheist ignorami saying that “it is so weird to let a religion tell you what you can and can’t eat” and “why don’t you move into the 21st century and eat some pork?”. Remember not so long ago everybody smoked cigarettes and anyone who did’nt was looked down on. But that soon changed! Just as there is now published scientific findings linking smoking with lung cancer in years to come there may be more published scientific findings linking pork consumption with influenza, obesity, arthritis and cancer. Look at how the Americans and the British are obsessed with weight loss. Is it a coincidence that they eat more pork than any other meat and they have such a big problem with obesity?
No one has answered my question yet. Do baalei teshuva get colds or any other illnesses less often now? A few answers would help settle this debate either way.
Kahane-Was-Right BT:
--- Quote from: Sefardic Panther on May 02, 2009, 09:27:38 PM ---Torah repeatedly says that the pig is the ultimate symbol of treif
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REALLY? The ultimate symbol of treif ? Where does it say that exactly? Can you quote me the pasuk (verse)? Perhaps you are confusing our religion with l'havdil of all l'havdil's the satanic cult, Islam.
--- Quote ---I am sick and tired of hearing atheist ignorami saying that “it is so weird to let a religion tell you what you can and can’t eat”
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You may be sick and tired of hearing their arguments, but that doesn't give you license to just type whatever you want in order to refute them. Refute them honestly and with knowledge rather than ignorance.
--- Quote ---No one has answered my question yet. Do baalei teshuva get colds or any other illnesses less often now? A few answers would help settle this debate either way.
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Do you really think there's been a study? How could someone make such a claim? How could they prove it? Even if this was true, why SHOULD this be true? A righteous person's reward is not limited to solely in this world. There are plenty of good people who still suffer here. People who do teshuvah, and even people who are righteous all their life. But their reward will come in the next world. And someone succeeding here or "getting fewer colds" is not necessarily a sign that they are in any way favored or righteous.
muman613:
I do agree that it would not make sense that Kashrut is intended for health benefits. I think it is good that in many cases Kashrut has led to more healthy eating. I am glad it is not Kosher to eat bugs and creeping things as I am sure they probrobly carry a lot of germs. But it is said that Kashrut is very, very important to the divine soul.
Here is some Chochma concerning Kashrut
Whosoever eats forbidden foods…
1) Is judged as a despised person since Hashem loathes him in this world and the world to come. (Zohar-part III, 41.)
2) Defiles his soul (ibid) (Reishis Chochma)
3) Will suffer much since all of a man's suffering in this world is because he was not scrupulous in the observance of kashrut. (ibid, 42)
4) Attaches his soul to the forces of impurity and a spirit of defilement rests upon him. (Ibid)
5) Leaves the sphere of holiness and enters a sphere of impurity. (ibid, 42)
6) Woe unto him and woe unto his soul. He has not attached himself to those of the eternal life. (ibid, 41)
IT IS AS IF HE WORSHIPS IDOLS
7) Is as though he has a worshipped idols G-d forbid. (ibid,)
8) Has no part of the G-d of Israel (ibid, 41)
9) Will have his face take on the appearance of a wild animal. (Zohar part II, 125)
10) Is as though his soul has left him and he remains a living corpse and is considered evil. (Chasam Sofer Parshas Shmini)
11) Has entered within him thoughts of atheism and heresy. (Rambam)
12) Unintentionally defiles his soul; with intent – his soul becomes like that of a lizard. (Or Hachayim Shmini)
HE PROLONGS THE EXILE
13) Prolongs the coming of the Mashiach, (Bris Mateh Moshe)
14) Does not belong to Hashem (Rashi on the verse A Holy Nation")
15) Forces his soul to become subservient to the body and its physical environs. (Sefas Emes, Parshes Shmini) 36) even though he merely is lenient in something which requires stringency, defiles his soul and is unable to comprehend the ideas of the Torah. (Meor Veshemesh)
16) Will see his children turn to evil ways. (Igre D pirke 126)
HE WILL COMMIT OTHER SEVERE SINS
17) Will commit other severe sins and will fall prey to the evils of the gentile world. (Divrei Yoel Parshas Shmini).
18) Even rabinically forbidden foods, brings one to further sins (Kav Hayashor, Avot D'rabeinu Noson chap. 15)
19) Creates an impurity in his heart and soul (Mesilat Yesharim)
20) Feeds his body with prohibited objects. Eventually his body will become filled with all types of impurity. (Nidchai Israel chap. 29)
21) Will have impurity become another limb on his body. (Reishis Chochmo Shar Hakedusho chap. 17)
HE CAN NEVER BE PURIFIED AND DESTROYS HIS SHARE IN THE WORLD TO COME
22) Can never be purified and destroys his share of this world and the world to come. (Yesh S'char pg. 42)
23) Because of minimal impurity one can be brought to the depths of Gehinomm. (Arugath Habosem)
24) Most apikorsim (heretics) have become so due to eating neveilos and treifos. (Chasam Sofer Kdoshim)
25) Because of unsuitable shochtim, Jews are unable to earn a livelihood. (Likutei Moharan)
ENTIRE JEWISH COMMUNITIES HAVE BEEN LOST THROUGH THIS SIN
26) There is no sin so severe as forbidden foods, since entire Jewish communities were lost and turned to evil ways because of eating treifos and neveilos. (Divrei Chayim-Yoreh Deah)
27) Will find it impossible to pray with the proper devotion and intention (Or Haganuz - Parshas Toldos)
THOSE WHO STUMBLE THROUGH FORBIDDEN FOODS BECOME INSOLENT PEOPLE AND ARE THOSE WHO DON’T FEAR G-D
28) The majority of insolent people in every generation, failing in yiras shomayim (fear of Hashem) and non-acceptance of rebuke come about by eating forbidden foods. (Pri Chadash -Yoreh Deah 81)
29) Will become a heretic and evil. (Shulchan hatohor quoting the Ari z.l)
30) Is held captive by his own impurity and is thus unable to ascend to holiness. He is unable to separate himself from his impurity until he is buried in the grave or through consistent penitence and fasting. (Sefer Tfila Lemoshe, chap. 68)
31) Even unknowingly, needs to repent for the wrong he has done. (Sifrei Chasidim in the name of the holy Baal Shem Tov)
The whole matter of death in this world came about because of the sin of eating something that was forbidden, the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge As it is written (Bereshit 2:17): “But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, you shall not eat of it; for in the day that you eat of it you shall surely die”. As a direct result of it, death was brought onto the world to all men for all generations.
The Ramban
Shamgar:
I eat pork every now and then, but I eat a lot of oatmeal.
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