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muman613:

--- Quote from: Sefardic Panther on March 17, 2009, 11:37:55 AM ---Wayiqra 20:13
We'ish asher yishkav et-zachar mishkevey ishah to'evah asu shneyhem mot yumatu dmeyhem bam
(If a man has intercourse with another man in the same manner as with a woman, both of them have committed a disgusting perversion. They shall be put to death by stoning)

In Bereshith ch.19 Hashem Himself destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah because all the inhabitants were homos. I was once told that Hashem does not destroy San Francisco because homosexuality is a far bigger affront when done in the Holy Land.

Yes I am a “homophobe” as every decent human being should be! Homosexuality is unnatural! We don’t see it in the animal kingdom and it is pointless because it produces no offspring. Even worse than homosexuality itself is how this perversion has become acceptable in western society and it’s the people who speak against it who are demonized (?!). Will western society stop at this perversion or will incest, bestiality and pedophilia become acceptable next? The politically correct crowd advocating homosexuality should eat plenty of prunes. That will show them what the tuchis is for!!!

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The primary reason that S&G was destroyed was because it was inhospitable to guests... Also there were not ten righteous people in the towns. The fact that homosexual relations was acceptable in that society was another reason it was destroyed but not the primary reason according to most explanations.

From Ohr Samayach:
http://ohr.edu/yhiy/article.php/2785


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The awful fate of the sinful cities of Sodom and Amorah will be recalled in synagogues throughout Israel and the world this Shabbat in the reading of the weekly Torah portion.

Were these indeed the worst cities in the world that they were designated for such a violent upheaval?

No, writes Ramban in his commentary. These cities were singled out for total destruction because of two reasons.

One is that they were located in Eretz Yisrael, a holy land which does not tolerate the abomination of which they were guilty. Just as this land would eventually spit out the nations that contaminated it, these sinners were now completely destroyed because their crimes surpassed those of all the others who inhabited the land.

The destruction of Sodom and Amorah was also intended as a lesson for the nation of Israel which would eventually inherit the land to be careful lest it deserve a similar fate.

The major sin of these cities was a total indifference to the need to share its wealth with its needy neighbors and visitors. It is hoped that the lesson of Sodom and Amorah will be taken seriously by a government which is more concerned with economic growth than it is with the needs of its large families and senior citizens. Only an application of this lesson will guarantee the well-being of Israel forever.

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I live in the SF area and consider the story of S&G every day. I believe I know several righteous {religious Jews} who live in San Francisco and I know they belong to a righteous minyan. I do not oppress the homosexual but believe that if they want to do teshuva that it is possible to control all physical urges.

The One and Only Mo:
When people are gay and do not reproduce they are not doing the Mitzvah of being fruitful and multiplied. It's a sin to waste seed. Plain and simple. All the rest is commentary.

Harzel:
SF isn't Sodom just yet. The Sodomites actually had a habit (among other forms of torture they used) to gang rape people who stopped by their city.

muman613:

--- Quote from: Mo2388 on March 17, 2009, 12:16:36 PM ---When people are gay and do not reproduce they are not doing the Mitzvah of being fruitful and multiplied. It's a sin to waste seed. Plain and simple. All the rest is commentary.

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You are aware it is just not that simple either. There are complex laws of sexual purity which must be adhered to in order to obtain the blessings from Hashem. In a previous thread I had listed many of these laws of purity. There is a time to be with the wife, and a time to separate from her. There are females which are off limits to males and likewise males off-limits for females. Kohens have even more stringent laws concerning their sexual and marital relations.

Kahane-Was-Right BT:
Zelhar is correct to say that the kabbalah should not be preached to/by the ignorant, and in fact, when this does happens, it makes a mockery of the kabbalah...

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