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The One and Only Mo:

--- Quote from: muman613 on March 17, 2009, 12:53:28 PM ---
--- Quote from: Mo2388 on March 17, 2009, 12:16:36 PM ---When people are gay and do not reproduce they are not doing the Mitzvah of being fruitful and multiplied. It's a sin to waste seed. Plain and simple. All the rest is commentary.

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You are aware it is just not that simple either. There are complex laws of sexual purity which must be adhered to in order to obtain the blessings from Hashem. In a previous thread I had listed many of these laws of purity. There is a time to be with the wife, and a time to separate from her. There are females which are off limits to males and likewise males off-limits for females. Kohens have even more stringent laws concerning their sexual and marital relations.


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Yes, I was just trying to explain that it's against the natural order of things.

Sefardic Panther:
Kahane-Was-Right BT I thought you did not believe in Kabbalah?

ProudAndZionist:
Once I beat a gay, who provocated me...I hate them!!!

muman613:

--- Quote from: ProudZionist on March 19, 2009, 01:41:53 PM ---Once I beat a gay, who provocated me...I hate them!!!

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Hate the evil which they do but it is not necessary to hate them. It is well known that hatred is a negative character trait and if used in the wrong way it can lead to many problems.

Kahane-Was-Right BT:

--- Quote from: Sefardic Panther on March 19, 2009, 09:37:47 AM ---Kahane-Was-Right BT I thought you did not believe in Kabbalah?

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Even though this is a loaded question, I will respond appropriately anyway:  You thought wrong. 
Not everything is so black and white.   Try not to view things so simplistically.

But it certainly depends on how you define "kabbalah."   And what constitutes "belief" in your mind is probably very different from what I think "belief" means. 

But let's pretend for a moment that even if I didn't hold of kabbalah of any kind - it still is being associated with Torah and Judaism, and for charlatans or ignorant people to present it to other ignorant people or in an inauthentic way, is still grossly inappropriate, and puts a bad light on Judaism (chas veshalom).   So what relevance is it what I believe or don't believe?   The statement is still true.    It makes a mockery of Judaism/Torah etc for the ignorant to distort kabbalah and present to (or be presented by) the ignorant in some sort of mass proliferation.   Most people know nothing of the basics of Judaism and halacha.   That is the place to start.   Not kabbalah.    (And I'm talking about Jews!)

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