Adrian,
I believe I can answer most of your questions.
First off, JTF is adamantly against a "Palestinian" state. First off, there is no such thing as a Palestinian. These people calling themselves that were merely Jordanians and Egyptians before 1967. Also, even Arab leaders have admitted that there's no such thing as a Palestinian people, and that it was merely a propaganda term used to destroy Israel.
JTF is against the creation of a fakestinian state because there are already over 60 Muslim countries in this world. Muslims already have 600 times the land that tiny Israel has. Furthermore losers in war do not get to dictate terms to the victors. That is exactly what these whining Arabs are. Any more land concessions would also make tiny Israel indefensible.
Now regarding Yitzkhak Rabin, we indeed view him as a traitor to the Jewish people and a murderer. This is a beast who killed many of his fellow Jews in the Altalena incident. This late unlemented, alcoholic piece of garbage also refused to retaliate against the killing of Jews by Arabs saying that the victims were to be "sacrifices for peace." So suffice it to say that Rabin is now in a very warm place.
Regarding Yigal Amir, I don't want to tell you what I think of him, as I have no idea who might be lurking here.
But in all honesty, if you are a fan of the late monster Yitzkhak Rabin, this is NOT the forum for you.
I believe I can answer most of your questions.
Thank You.
First off, JTF is adamantly against a "Palestinian" state.
This is your right.
First off, there is no such thing as a Palestinian.
This is a complex issue, as there is certainly such a thing as a Palestinian but whether being part of a particular group of people, generates a right to a Sovereign State, is an entire different matter.
These people calling themselves that were merely Jordanians and Egyptians before 1967.
Well, some but all not all Palestinians, in that the idea of Nationalism being a legitimate concept as a Western liberal would understand it, is very much in dispute in the Arab and Islamic World. Hence some Palestinians would see themselves as Muslim Arabs and argue before an Arab Muslim audience that, a nation state not based on a Pan Arab and Muslim identity is not a proper vehicle of Statehood for them, yet such people would also make the conflicting argument, when addressing a Western liberal audience that Palestinian Muslim Arabs have a separate identity to other Arab Muslims and therefore require their own state. Other Palestinians Arabs, would focus more on Islam rather than the Arab aspect of their identity and would argue before a Muslim audience that Muslims consist of a single nation and the only legitimate nation state for Muslims is one which includes all Muslims, whilst before a Western liberal audience, they would argue that the Palestinians are a separate entity to Muslims in general and even other Arab Muslims and therefor the Palestinians require their own State. Now, there is nothing inherently wrong in making different arguments to different audiences, for example in an election campaign, a politician speaking to farmers might speak to them about how he will seek to help farmers, by say promising to establish a new agricultural college and the same politician speaking to people who live and work in the city, may promise to put more buses on the routes in the city. But what the Palestinians are doing is different, what they are doing is, saying two diametrically opposed things, to two different audiences.
Also, even Arab leaders have admitted that there's no such thing as a Palestinian people, and that it was merely a propaganda term used to destroy Israel.
Agreed.
Furthermore losers in war do not get to dictate terms to the victors. That is exactly what these whining Arabs are.
This very much depends on precisely how one would define defeat and victory. Israel has scored many military victories over Arab armies, that is for sure. Unfortunately Islamofascism has scored scored many victories in the United States and Western Europe over progressive forces in ideological and societal conflicts and Israel would be ill advised not to note the reality of that.
Any more land concessions would also make tiny Israel indefensible.
I am not suggesting returning to the 1967 pre Six Day War boundaries, my view is of Israel pre 1967 plus some of the territory captured in the 1967 Six Day War.
Now regarding Yitzkhak Rabin, we indeed view him as a traitor to the Jewish people and a murderer. This is a beast who killed many of his fellow Jews in the Altalena incident. This late unlemented, alcoholic piece of garbage also refused to retaliate against the killing of Jews by Arabs saying that the victims were to be "sacrifices for peace." So suffice it to say that Rabin is now in a very warm place.
I think we might Park Mr Rabin and issues concerning him aside, for discussion at a later date. On the general matter of a "warm place", I didn't think Jews believed in hell?
Regarding Yigal Amir, I don't want to tell you what I think of him, as I have no idea who might be lurking here.
That is a fair point.
Best and Warm Regards
Adrian Wainer
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