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May 5, 2009
Barack Obama hints at tougher line on Israel

The Obama Administration has signalled a tougher approach towards Israel ahead of fresh talks on the Middle East peace process by insisting it must endorse the creation of an independent Palestinian state.

“Israel has to work toward a two-state solution,” declared Vice-President Joe Biden today in a speech to the annual conference of a powerful pro-Israel lobby group in Washington.

“You’re not going to like my saying this,” he warned the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (Aipac) before adding that the Jewish state should not build any more settlements on Palestinian territory, and should “dismantle existing outposts and allow Palestinians freedom of movement”.

President Obama later held a White House meeting with Shimon Peres, his Israeli counterpart, who holds a largely ceremonial position. But the US Administration’s message appeared to be addressed to the new right-wing Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu, who is due to visit the White House on May 18.

Mr Netanyahu has dismayed American, Arab and European officials by pointedly refusing to back Palestinian statehood since taking office on March 31. In his own speech to Aipac, sent via satellite link, he said: “We are prepared to resume peace negotiations without any delay and without any preconditions — the sooner the better.” Saeb Erekat, the senior Palestinian negotiator, however, criticised Mr Netanyahu’s speech for its “vagueness” on core issues such as the status of Jerusalem and refugees, as well as its failure to commit to a two-state solution.

Aipac has demonstrated that it — and Israel — still exercise considerable muscle in Washington by persuading the US Justice Department last week to abandon the prosecution of two former employees on charges that they spied on America for Israel.

Aipac’s 6,000 delegates are being urged to bombard Capitol Hill with demands that Congress support ever more draconian sanctions against Iran whose Government has threatened to wipe Israel off the face of the map.

Mr Biden used his speech to reiterate that the US would never abandon its commitment to Israel’s security and that “nothing is off the table” with Iran — a phrase often used to imply that military action against uranium enrichment facilities remains possible.

He added that Israel had the right “to make its own judgment about what it needs to do to defend itself”, which many members of the audience saw as a hint that the US might allow it to deliver an airstrike against Iran’s nuclear sites.

Rahm Emanuel, the White House Chief of Staff, was, however, reported to have linked efforts to thwart Iran’s nuclear programme — “the number one threat in the Middle East” — with progress in the peace process.

He told a private meeting of Aipac donors that the task of building an international coalition against Tehran will be made easier if Israel and the Palestinians hold a constructive dialogue.

Last month, Hillary Clinton, the US Secretary of State, warned Israel that it risks losing Arab support for combating threats from Iran if it rejects peace negotiations with the Palestinians.

General James Jones, Mr Obama’s National Security Adviser, is also said to have told a European foreign minister that — unlike the Bush Administration — the White House was now ready to be “forceful” with Israel.

“The new Administration will convince Israel to compromise on the Palestinian question,” General Jones was reported to have written in a confidential telegramme. “We will not push Israel under the wheels of a bus, but we will be more forceful toward Israel than we have been under Bush.” General Jones is due to travel to London next week for talks with British officials and Mr Netanyahu’s security adviser, Uzi Arad.

President Ahmadinejad of Iran was today meeting the heads of ten hard-line Palestinian groups — including Hamas — on a visit to Syria, sending what one of the leaders said would be a message to the new right-wing Israeli Government.

The Iranian leader arrived in the afternoon and went to the People’s Palace in Damascus, where he was given a red-carpet welcome by President Assad followed by a closed-door meeting.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article6229180.ece
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Re: And It Begins... Barack Obama hints at tougher line on Israel
« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2009, 11:07:24 PM »
Well, this was a given.
It was just a matter of time.
And, here it is, the time is now.

As myself, and many others on the forum have stated, "Israel is on it's own".

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Re: And It Begins... Barack Obama hints at tougher line on Israel
« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2009, 11:46:56 PM »
Well, this was a given.
It was just a matter of time.
And, here it is, the time is now.

As myself, and many others on the forum have stated, "Israel is on it's own".

Oh ag, I was just thinking the same thing while reading this. We were just talking about this at lunch too. I am so sad over this and will hate that bass turd for as long as I live now. I will pray for all the good people to do the right things and to survive all of this. And secretly hope that in the middle of the night, without a warning, Israel nukes the hell out of those sonsabitches!
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Re: And It Begins... Barack Obama hints at tougher line on Israel
« Reply #3 on: May 05, 2009, 11:58:26 PM »
Well the article itself certainly is anit-Israel and perhaps even anti-Semitic.  AIPAC is a powerful Jewish lobby that exercises (what was it?) considerable muscle in Washington?  Yes, of course, Washington is controlled by the Jewish lobby!  It's a tune so familiar and worn to us.

What can America really do to Israel?  What does a tougher line even mean?  They'll talk more.  They'll demand more.  Normally this would be harmless enough but Israel has such weak leadership that they'll cave for no good reason.

If a JTF was in the Knessett, Obama could blow as much hot air as he likes and it wouldn't make the least bit of difference.

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Re: And It Begins... Barack Obama hints at tougher line on Israel
« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2009, 12:20:53 AM »
Well, this was a given.
It was just a matter of time.
And, here it is, the time is now.

As myself, and many others on the forum have stated, "Israel is on it's own".

Oh ag, I was just thinking the same thing while reading this. We were just talking about this at lunch too. I am so sad over this and will hate that bass turd for as long as I live now. I will pray for all the good people to do the right things and to survive all of this. And secretly hope that in the middle of the night, without a warning, Israel nukes the hell out of those sonsabitches!

Hi Arksis ! LTNS. I knew Obama was going to cater to the Islamic lunatics by pushing Israel around. I wonder how the Jews who voted for Obama feel now that he is openly against Israel.
I myself am hoping Israel will wake up and kill her enemy before it's too late.


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Re: And It Begins... Barack Obama hints at tougher line on Israel
« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2009, 12:32:09 AM »
Well, this was a given.
It was just a matter of time.
And, here it is, the time is now.

As myself, and many others on the forum have stated, "Israel is on it's own".

Oh ag, I was just thinking the same thing while reading this. We were just talking about this at lunch too. I am so sad over this and will hate that bass turd for as long as I live now. I will pray for all the good people to do the right things and to survive all of this. And secretly hope that in the middle of the night, without a warning, Israel nukes the hell out of those sonsabitches!

Hi Arksis ! LTNS. I knew Obama was going to cater to the Islamic lunatics by pushing Israel around. I wonder how the Jews who voted for Obama feel now that he is openly against Israel.
I myself am hoping Israel will wake up and kill her enemy before it's too late.


                                                                                     Shalom & G-d bless -  Dox 
   


Dox,
I really do believe that the Jews who voted for Obama are self-hating Jews, because otherwise why would they vote and/or support a candidate with obvious ties to Islam.

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Re: And It Begins... Barack Obama hints at tougher line on Israel
« Reply #6 on: May 06, 2009, 12:38:03 AM »
Well, this was a given.
It was just a matter of time.
And, here it is, the time is now.

As myself, and many others on the forum have stated, "Israel is on it's own".

Oh ag, I was just thinking the same thing while reading this. We were just talking about this at lunch too. I am so sad over this and will hate that bass turd for as long as I live now. I will pray for all the good people to do the right things and to survive all of this. And secretly hope that in the middle of the night, without a warning, Israel nukes the hell out of those sonsabitches!

Hi Arksis ! LTNS. I knew Obama was going to cater to the Islamic lunatics by pushing Israel around. I wonder how the Jews who voted for Obama feel now that he is openly against Israel.
I myself am hoping Israel will wake up and kill her enemy before it's too late.


                                                                                     Shalom & G-d bless -  Dox 

Hi Elizabeth! Long time no see yourself! Hope all is going well for you, sure have missed you! I agree, she needs to kill her enemy before it's too late.  We were just discussing all of this at lunch today!
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Re: And It Begins... Barack Obama hints at tougher line on Israel
« Reply #7 on: May 06, 2009, 10:06:26 AM »
It seems fitting that obama is "getting tough" on Israel. Especially given the fact that Israel has practically bent over backwards trying to have peace with the hordes of Arab imbeciles that surround her. Attacking the victim is just unbelievable, I would say that makes obama himself a terrorist. Cheering on and legitimizing (in their eyes) the terrorist activities of the Muslims is just what I would expect, after all he is a Muslim. I hope someday soon G*d will curse the whole obama administration, supporters, Muslims, and all those who knowingly and willingly harm others either through ignorance or purposeful. It will happen some day, have faith.

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Re: And It Begins... Barack Obama hints at tougher line on Israel
« Reply #8 on: May 06, 2009, 10:44:30 AM »
It seems fitting that obama is "getting tough" on Israel. Especially given the fact that Israel has practically bent over backwards trying to have peace with the hordes of Arab imbeciles that surround her. Attacking the victim is just unbelievable, I would say that makes obama himself a terrorist. Cheering on and legitimizing (in their eyes) the terrorist activities of the Muslims is just what I would expect, after all he is a Muslim. I hope someday soon G*d will curse the whole obama administration, supporters, Muslims, and all those who knowingly and willingly harm others either through ignorance or purposeful. It will happen some day, have faith.

That's about all we have left anymore is our "faith" and I hope and pray that someday SOON, what you say WILL happen!
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Re: And It Begins... Barack Obama hints at tougher line on Israel
« Reply #9 on: May 06, 2009, 02:31:37 PM »
A sad future for Israel! No wonder that Muslims around the globe supported this ape! Why didn't he stay in Kenya and became clan king of Oogabooga, this is surely where he belongs and not it the most powerful charge in the world!  >:(
He will come to Germany and visit a former concentration camp. Maybe I will be there to close the doors when he is inside the camp for him to learn where he is driving Israel with his islam-supporting politics....!  >:( >:( >:( >:( Good that at least here in Germany he is losing lots of sympathy because he wants to pressure the German government to give asylum to Guantanamo terrorists. As if Europe needed more then they actually have!  >:(

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Re: And It Begins... Barack Obama hints at tougher line on Israel
« Reply #10 on: May 06, 2009, 10:44:48 PM »
he wants to pressure the German government to give asylum to Guantanamo terrorists

You have got to be kidding!!!! he has no shame whatsoever!! he also wanted Germany to pay into his grandiose "recovery" ponzi scheme and got a big firm "NO". he seems to think the world should support him and help enable his destruction plan. I think obama fancies himself the king of the world, is that the New World Order he has in mind? A socialist one world dictatorship with him as the leader? Already he has proposed the world bank and global currency (backed by camels?) and a world court (Muslim shari'a law). To h&ll with him!!

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Re: And It Begins... Barack Obama hints at tougher line on Israel
« Reply #11 on: May 07, 2009, 03:16:18 AM »
he wants to pressure the German government to give asylum to Guantanamo terrorists

You have got to be kidding!!!! he has no shame whatsoever!! he also wanted Germany to pay into his grandiose "recovery" ponzi scheme and got a big firm "NO". he seems to think the world should support him and help enable his destruction plan. I think obama fancies himself the king of the world, is that the New World Order he has in mind? A socialist one world dictatorship with him as the leader? Already he has proposed the world bank and global currency (backed by camels?) and a world court (Muslim shari'a law). To h&ll with him!!

I think he is a maniac and I am sure that he would like to see the whole world under his rule and everyone serving him. Maybe one day he will get some pseudo-revelations that make him think to be a new prophet. Honestly, after seeing the interview with him laughing like a  retarded and being as arrogant as he always likes to be, I thought by myself "poor US" - the Americans voted for their own bitter end. He will sell out the US to the whole world and there won't be anything left than a 3rd World country with a quality of life and crime rates that of Brazil or Colombia.
This is sad and it is dangerous to have such a "person" as the leader of the no. 1 superpower. He is not a black person he is a [censored] a black person with a mean and false character. I hope America will wake up get rid of him before does major damage to the country! >:(