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[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

Tamil Tiger Rebels Concede Defeat

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090517/ap_on_re_as/as_sri_lanka_civil_war

Guess Sri Lanka won't be part of the world khilafah (at least for now). Of course, I'd prefer all 8 million-odd Tamil jihadists be forcibly relocated (because I am a moderate) to their true homeland in Pakistan, or, better yet, Saudi Arabia...

SerbAvenger

Sri Lanka rebels concede defeat in civil war
By RAVI NESSMAN and BHARATHA MALLWARACHI, Associated Press Writers

COLOMBO, Sri Lanka – The Tamil Tigers admitted defeat Sunday in their fierce quarter-century war for a separate homeland as government forces raced to clear the last pockets of rebel resistance from the war zone in the north.

Far from the battlefield, thousands of Sri Lankans danced in the streets of Colombo, celebrating the stunning collapse of one of the world's most sophisticated insurgencies. But with rebel leader Velupillai Prabhakaran still at large, the threat of renewed guerrilla warfare remained.

Several rebel fighters committed suicide when they were surrounded, but it wasn't clear whether Prabhakaran or other leaders were among them.

The Tamil Tigers once controlled a shadow state complete with courts, police and a tax system across a wide swath of the north. By Sunday, troops had surrounded the remaining rebels in a 0.4-square-mile (1-square-kilometer) patch of land and were fighting off suicide bombs and other attacks, the military said.

Huge clouds of black smoke rose over the battlefield as soldiers inspected the charred remains of rebel trucks and heavy artillery pieces, according to footage broadcast on state television. Civilians carrying backpacks and rolling suitcases were escorted from the area.

Military spokesman Brig. Udaya Nanayakkara said the civilians who had been trapped in the war zone — 63,000 in all — fled to safety during the past 72 hours. But rebel official Selvarasa Pathmanathan said the bodies of thousands of wounded and slain civilians lay strewn across the war zone.

"This battle has reached its bitter end," Pathmanathan said in a statement e-mailed to The Associated Press. "It is our people who are dying now from bombs, shells, illness and hunger. We cannot permit any more harm to befall them. We remain with one last choice — to remove the last weak excuse of the enemy for killing our people. We have decided to silence our guns."

Media Minister Anura Yapa dismissed the appeal. "We want to free this country from the terrorist LTTE," he said, referring to the group by its formal name, the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam.

The military spokesman denied the rebels had laid down their weapons. "Fighting is still going on in small pockets," Nanayakkara said.

Rights groups have accused the rebels of holding civilians as human shields, and blamed the government for shelling the densely populated area where they sought refuge. Both sides denied the accusations.

With most journalists and aid workers barred from the war zone, it was not possible to verify the accounts of either side. Health officials in the area have said thousands of civilians were killed in shelling since the beginning of the year.

The rebels have been fighting since 1983 for a separate state for Sri Lanka's ethnic Tamil minority after years of marginalization at the hands of the Sinhalese majority. More than 70,000 people have been killed in the fighting.

President Mahinda Rajapaksa has said that after defeating the rebels, his government will begin talks toward power sharing and political reconciliation between the two communities. But many Tamils are skeptical that the victorious government will be willing to make real concessions.

At their height, the rebels controlled 5,400 square miles (14,000 square kilometers), nearly one-fifth of this Indian Ocean island nation.

They had a conventional army complete with artillery batteries, a large navy and even a nascent air force, funded by an estimated $200 million to $300 million a year they made from smuggling, fraud and appeals to Tamil expatriates. They also carried out hundreds of suicide attacks — including the 1991 assassination of former Indian Prime Minister Rajiv Gandhi — and were listed as a terror group by the U.S., European Union and India.

A 2002 cease-fire briefly halted the fighting, but it broke down more than three years ago, and Rajapaksa vowed to destroy the rebels. With victory all but assured, Rajapaksa raced home from a trip abroad and was blessed at the airport Sunday morning by Buddhist, Catholic, Hindu and Muslim clerics. He scheduled a nationally televised news conference for Tuesday morning at Parliament.

Sri Lankans poured into the streets of the capital, Colombo, lighting firecrackers, dancing to the beat of traditional drums, waving the flag and hugging soldiers.

"We all will be able to live in peace in our motherland again," said Jinadasa Liyanage, 26.

Yet the fate of Prabhakaran, the founder and unquestioned leader of the Tamil Tigers, and his top deputies remained unclear.

A senior military official said troops found the bodies of several rebel fighters who had committed suicide Sunday when troops surrounded them. The bodies were suspected of being Prabhakaran and his deputies, but the military was still trying to confirm their identities, the official said, speaking on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak to the media.

In an interview with Britain's Channel 4 news to be aired Sunday night, Pathmanathan said he had spoken with Prabhakaran personally and the rebel leader remained inside the war zone.

The portly, mustachioed Prabhakaran led the Tamil Tigers for more than three decades, transforming it from little more than a street gang into a feared guerrilla group. He is seen as the heart and soul of the movement.

The rebels have said that if they lost the conventional war they would return to their guerrilla roots.

The war zone was wracked by chaos Sunday, as troops sought to mop up the final pockets of resistance, Nanayakkara said. At least one suicide bomber attacked troops in the morning, the latest in a wave of rebel attacks on the advancing forces in recent days, he said. Troops killed at least 70 rebels trying to flee by boat, the military said.

Pope Benedict XVI said Sunday he was praying for peace and reconciliation in Sri Lanka and called on aid groups to do everything possible to care for the fleeing civilians.

"There are thousands of children, women, old people for whom the war has taken years of their lives and hope," Benedict said.

[Serbian Canadian]

But nobody intervened on the behalf of the poor Tamils? They were ethnically cleansed and the world just stood by!

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

It's too bad that the heroic Serbs haven't been able to raise the flag of victory over the Albanian Muslim Nazis (thanks to the West), friends of the LTTE. 

[t_h_j]

you're not a moderate, serb avenger, you're just ignorant.  I'm still waiting for your rebuttal of this by the way:

Ethnic Tamils are united to each other by their common religions beliefs, and the Tamil language and culture. Some 80 percent of the Sri Lankan Tamils and 90 percent of the Indian Tamils are Hindus. They have little contact with Buddhism, and they worship the Hindu pantheon of gods. Their religious myths, stories of saints, literature, and rituals are distinct from the cultural sources of the Sinhalese (see Hinduism , this ch.). The caste groups of the Tamils are also different from those of the Sinhalese, and they have their rationale in religious ideologies that the Sinhalese do not share. Religion and caste do, however, create divisions within the Tamil community. Most of the Indian Tamils are members of low Indian castes that are not respected by the upper- and middle-level castes of the Sri Lankan Tamils (see Caste , this ch.). Furthermore, a minority of the Tamils--4.3 percent of the Sri Lankan Tamils and 7.6 percent of the Indian Tamils--are converts to Christianity, with their own places of worship and separate cultural lives. In this way, the large Tamil minority in Sri Lanka is effectively separated from the mainstream Sinhalese culture and is fragmented into two major groups with their own Christian minorities.

source-http://lcweb2.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/r?frd/cstdy:@field(DOCID+lk0061)
   

A simple "I was wrong" will suffice.

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

It's utter nonsense, that's my response. The great majority of SL Tamil "Christians" are just like Arab "Christians" and support the Muslims in everything, including jihad and suicide bombings. Do you want me to embarrass you by posting a link to a picture of a so-called Tamil "Catholic" woman who has icons of Tamil shahids all over her wall?

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

Furthermore, a minority of the Tamils--4.3 percent of the Sri Lankan Tamils and 7.6 percent of the Indian Tamils--are converts to Christianity, with their own places of worship and separate cultural lives.

http://www.time.com/time/asia/photoessays/sri_lanka/

Go to picture 10, dimwit.

[muppet]

The whole thing with these Tamils and Sri Lankans has really [censored] me off no end they've started their ethnic crap here now http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/814837/two-men-splashed-with-acid-in-attack .. One thing to stand up and voice your opinions but when you bring it into a neutral country    ..

[t_h_j]

It's utter nonsense, that's my response. The great majority of SL Tamil "Christians" are just like Arab "Christians" and support the Muslims in everything, including jihad and suicide bombings. Do you want me to embarrass you by posting a link to a picture of a so-called Tamil "Catholic" woman who has icons of Tamil shahids all over her wall?

and once again, Serb Avenger has no rebuttal.  Instead he references a meaningless picture.  I would be lying if i said I was surprised.  I'll post pictures of the families of kamikaze pilots.  I'm sure that will convince you that the Japanese were muslims in WW2.   Once again, i'm still waiting on the proof that LTTE is a muslim group, or that tamils are muslim. 

Still waiting for your rebuttal of this:
Ethnic Tamils are united to each other by their common religions beliefs, and the Tamil language and culture. Some 80 percent of the Sri Lankan Tamils and 90 percent of the Indian Tamils are Hindus. They have little contact with Buddhism, and they worship the Hindu pantheon of gods. Their religious myths, stories of saints, literature, and rituals are distinct from the cultural sources of the Sinhalese (see Hinduism , this ch.). The caste groups of the Tamils are also different from those of the Sinhalese, and they have their rationale in religious ideologies that the Sinhalese do not share. Religion and caste do, however, create divisions within the Tamil community. Most of the Indian Tamils are members of low Indian castes that are not respected by the upper- and middle-level castes of the Sri Lankan Tamils (see Caste , this ch.). Furthermore, a minority of the Tamils--4.3 percent of the Sri Lankan Tamils and 7.6 percent of the Indian Tamils--are converts to Christianity, with their own places of worship and separate cultural lives. In this way, the large Tamil minority in Sri Lanka is effectively separated from the mainstream Sinhalese culture and is fragmented into two major groups with their own Christian minorities.

source-http://lcweb2.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/r?frd/cstdy:@field(DOCID+lk0061)

once again, a simple "I was wrong" would suffice.

[George]

Tamils aren't Muslim. They had anti-Muslim campaigns http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamil_tigers#Ethnic_cleansing http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamil_tigers#Anti-Muslim_campaigns_of_1990 and had ethnic cleansing campaigns against Muslims in northern Sri Lanka from 1985-1992 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamil_tigers#LTTE_tactics_in_other_terrorist_organizations

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

once again, a simple "I was wrong" would suffice.

Wrong about what? The fact that Tamils are Muslims, or that you are a Muslim-loving troll?

[George]

Their religions are Hinduism, Catholicism, and Protestanism. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sri_Lankan_Tamil_Nationalism

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

Surely you wouldn't take Wikipedia as authoritative.

Almost no Sri Lankan Tamils are genuine, religious Hindus, and probably 5% or less of Tamil Nadu Tamils are.

[muppet]

Jim mate I wouldn't be using Wiki as a verified source. I unfortunately found that out when I was studying recently.. My teacher slammed me for using it as a reference, even Universities here won't allow it as a reference point  ..

[George]

If you read the article you'll see that it has many references. Even searching the internet will show results that they have a conflict with Muslims. Islam is evil but evil is not restricted to Islam.

There is widespread evil in this world and if Islam didn't exist you'd see there would be some other ideology that the Muslims would have. When Muhammad claimed he was a prophet there were over one hundred other Arabs who claimed they were prophets in the same time period. If Muhammad weren't born the Arabs would have some other cult similar to Islam. The only difference between Muslims and the other evil is that Muslims are extremely dangerous and wouldn't hesitate to destroy the entire world for their god.

[George]

And no offense to Hindus but they allow adults to marry children and consummate their marriage, which is pedophilia.

"Hindu scriptures sanctioned both child marriage and early consummation, "the girl should be married before puberty and certainly immediately after her first menstruation. If a girl gets married after her first menses it would not be a Kanya-dan but stree-dan". Kanya-dan can be consummated at the most at 11 years of her age." In one of the scenes in the Shastras a father addresses his father-in-law on giving her in marriage, 'I have brought this girl up for eight years like a boy. I now give her away to your son, treat her with affection.'"

http://www.stormloader.com/munaypata/India.htm

[muppet]

That's bloody terrible    .. In this day and age as well..

[t_h_j]

once again, a simple "I was wrong" would suffice.

Wrong about what? The fact that Tamils are Muslims, or that you are a Muslim-loving troll?

those who cannot debate, defame.

Ethnic Tamils are united to each other by their common religions beliefs, and the Tamil language and culture. Some 80 percent of the Sri Lankan Tamils and 90 percent of the Indian Tamils are Hindus. They have little contact with Buddhism, and they worship the Hindu pantheon of gods. Their religious myths, stories of saints, literature, and rituals are distinct from the cultural sources of the Sinhalese (see Hinduism , this ch.). The caste groups of the Tamils are also different from those of the Sinhalese, and they have their rationale in religious ideologies that the Sinhalese do not share. Religion and caste do, however, create divisions within the Tamil community. Most of the Indian Tamils are members of low Indian castes that are not respected by the upper- and middle-level castes of the Sri Lankan Tamils (see Caste , this ch.). Furthermore, a minority of the Tamils--4.3 percent of the Sri Lankan Tamils and 7.6 percent of the Indian Tamils--are converts to Christianity, with their own places of worship and separate cultural lives. In this way, the large Tamil minority in Sri Lanka is effectively separated from the mainstream Sinhalese culture and is fragmented into two major groups with their own Christian minorities.

source-http://lcweb2.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/r?frd/cstdy:@field(DOCID+lk0061)

Still waiting for your rebuttal.  All I've seen are lame insult attempts. Once again, a simple "I was wrong" would suffice.

[t_h_j]

Surely you wouldn't take Wikipedia as authoritative.

Almost no Sri Lankan Tamils are genuine, religious Hindus, and probably 5% or less of Tamil Nadu Tamils are.

and your source is...?

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

I already told you, I owe trolls like you nothing. Is that all you have though? One petrosycophantic, Israel-bashing, "two-state-solution" (which I believe you endorse) State Department link? It's obviously nonsense and if any forum members fall for it, I don't care.

[t_h_j]

I already told you, I owe trolls like you nothing. Is that all you have though? One petrosycophantic, Israel-bashing, "two-state-solution" (which I believe you endorse) State Department link? It's obviously nonsense and if any forum members fall for it, I don't care.

then, in other words, you concede you can't prove it wrong.  Its interesting that you are quick to simply attack sources, and people presenting them instead of actually defending your position.  Your best "argument" is a meaningless picture.

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

If that is the fantasy that you choose to believe, go right on ahead. I have posted stacks of links demonstrating the Islamicity of (the great majority of) Tamils many times, and frankly right now am not only too lazy to dig it up again right this moment, but have no desire to because I owe you nothing. I do recall however that you saw those links, and just blew them off without even trying to argue with them. If I do get motivated enough to dig something up, it will be the posts where you defend Pat Buchanan, just so that I can prove what a liar you are.

[t_h_j]

If that is the fantasy that you choose to believe, go right on ahead. I have posted stacks of links demonstrating the Islamicity of (the great majority of) Tamils many times, and frankly right now am not only too lazy to dig it up again right this moment, but have no desire to because I owe you nothing. I do recall however that you saw those links, and just blew them off without even trying to argue with them. If I do get motivated enough to dig something up, it will be the posts where you defend Pat Buchanan, just so that I can prove what a liar you are.

No need, I'll even post all your links for you:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamil_Muslim --Existence of Actual Tamil Muslims (these are the kind that primarily belong to the Sri Lankan Muslim Congress, the main rival to the LTTE)

The "expulsion" and conflicts with other SL Muslims were a result of an internecine feud between the LTTE and the SLMC (the Sri Lankan Muslim Congress, or SL's "moderate" Muslim political party). It was no different between the civil war between Hamas and Fatah.

How much evidence do you want that world Muslims support their brothers in jihad in the LTTE?

http://www.tamilcanadian.com/page.php?cat=23&id=30 --Malaysian Muslims Support "Eelam" Struggle

http://www.indianexpress.com/ie/daily/19990424/ige24094.html --Tamils Enthusiastically Cheer on KLA and NATO Bombing Campaign Against Serbia

http://senthil-jihad.blogspot.com/ and http://www.tamilnet.tv/index.php/suicide-bomber-in-idp-camp?blog=1 --Tamils Calling Their War a "Jihad" and Calling Sinhalese "Infidels" (warning, some strong language)

http://sangam.org/taraki/articles/2006/07-15_Eelam_Intifada.php?uid=1842 --Tamils Calling Their War an "Intifada"

http://www.ict.org.il/Articles/tabid/66/Articlsid/277/currentpage/4/Default.aspx --The LTTE's Extensive Alliances with Worldwide Muslim Nazi Jihadists (especially Fakestinian ones)

and again, without being too repetitive, absolutely none of these sources demonstrate that the LTTE is a muslim group.  Also, none of these demonstrate that the majority of tamils are muslims.  That being said, I again ask you for any proof to back up your "arguments" 

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

You know, I haven't seen you actually argue against each and every one of my links, unless you are going to argue that somehow I wrote them and planted them all over the internet to make Tamils appear to be Muslims when in actuality they are all devout Hindus, lol. Devout Hindus that talk about jihad, infidels and holy martyrdom, no doubt. How about we start with that.

At least I actually attacked your source (the State Department, which also denies that the PA and KLA are Islamic terror groups (or "freedom fighters" as you would call them), and claims has it has "proof" that Jonathan Pollard is any evil spy, which I am certain you agree that he is,) in a meaningful way. I am starting to think that you are a Tamil Muslim, because nobody else is even remotely as obsessed with this topic as you are.

I also noticed you didn't respond to me when I asked you how you will respond when I repost your posts defending Pat Buchanan...

[Serbian Canadian]

The overwhelming majority of Tamils are not muslims. However, their actions and behavior are very similiar to those of Islamic terrorists. They were one of the first groups to train people, including children to be suicide bombers.

[t_h_j]

You know, I haven't seen you actually argue against each and every one of my links, unless you are going to argue that somehow I wrote them and planted them all over the internet to make Tamils appear to be Muslims when in actuality they are all devout Hindus, lol. Devout Hindus that talk about jihad, infidels and holy martyrdom, no doubt. How about we start with that.

At least I actually attacked your source (the State Department, which also denies that the PA and KLA are Islamic terror groups (or "freedom fighters" as you would call them), and claims has it has "proof" that Jonathan Pollard is any evil spy, which I am certain you agree that he is,) in a meaningful way. I am starting to think that you are a Tamil Muslim, because nobody else is even remotely as obsessed with this topic as you are.

I also noticed you didn't respond to me when I asked you how you will respond when I repost your posts defending Pat Buchanan...

I don't need to argue against them all individually if none of them demonstrate that most tamils are muslim, or that LTTE is an islamic group.  This has been demonstrated to you several times.  I don't think you realize how ignorant and obtuse you look by consistently ignoring evidence that utterly proves you wrong.
That statement i made bold is very ironic coming from the guy who constantly posts threads about it.  Go ahead and post anything I have ever said defending pat buchanan too.