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Separate gender seating Mehadrin buses
Flechette:
As can be see from the comments section at this Haredi site, opinions amongst the Haredim themselves are also strongly divided http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/article.php?p=34810
muman613:
Why does the seating have to be front/rear? Why not seperate sections on the left and right, seperated by a mechitza?
Flechette:
Pressure is growing for El Al to have Mehadrin airliners, with women disembarking from the rear.
Ultra Requete:
I' m not Israeli nor Jewish and I can't say it's entirely bad idea but I can see something which Feminazist/Liberals will protest especialy when women are seated in back like blacks in Jim Crow era times or Jews/Poles and other untermenshen in ocupied Warsaw. Left/right or separate busses for man and woman woud be more.. hmmm Politicly correct.
Kahane-Was-Right BT:
That picture looks more like a greyhound bus line than an Israeli public bus, and if that was really a view of a mehadrin line, I find it hard to believe the men's section could be so tiny! They have about 5 rows of seats in the front!
I doubt whoever supposedly took this picture would ever have the guts to even get on one of those mehadrin buses.
BTW "flechette" it was quite obvious who you are from the moment you started posting here. You didn't think you were fooling any of us did you?
Just to chime in on the discussion I am against the silly idea for separate buses. There is not a basis in halacha, and this is simply a chassidishe-invented societal chumra (extreme chumra, probably invented in modern settlement of kiryat yoel in monroe ny) being adopted by the general haredi public which apparently as it becomes a bigger demographic becomes more and more imaginative and has a greater sense of entitlement. This was not the societal norm of religious society as a whole in Israel, and there is no reason to make this a societal norm except fanatacism. No one, of even the "frummest" Jews in Israel could have even imagined such a scenario on the Israeli public bus system 10 or 15 years ago, let alone when the state first began, as seating was never mandated to different sections of the bus. It is the ignorant masses who don't understand Judaism and think "frumkeit" and man-woman separation defines Judaism that want this chumrah enforced.
And before anyone starts crowing about "gedolim" who signed on to this crazy idea, I GUARANTEE you that there are some rabbis in support of this thing who are only supporting it because their hand has been forced by ignorant extremists and the masses of idiots who want it. And knowing some rabbis who are close to gedolim, this unfortunately DOES happen in Jewish society.
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