Why no death penalty in Israel?!

[Nonny]

Meir Kahane said that he would immediately reintroduce the death penalty for terrorism in Israel, by firing squad.

That there is no death penalty in Israel for terrorist murderers is an outrage that screams to Shamayim.

That the Arab terrorists are allowed to live in good conditions in Megiddo Jail, with a choice of three types of Tenuva ma'adanim each day, whilst the Jewish soldier guarding them gets plain leben, is disgusting.

And the killers know that there's a good chance they'll eventually be released!

The Halacha is that a Ben Noach is put to death for violating any of the 7 Noahide Laws, even in the slightest eg even for stealing one cent, a Ben Noach is meant to be executed!

And a Bat Noach too.

As we can see, the Chinese carry this out on girls just for growing poppies!



kal v'chomer for Arab mass murderers!

[Scriabin]

Man, that f--king picture is too much.

Have some f--king discretion.

[dawntreader]

Oy...that is sickening. Is there any doubt that communist China should not be befriended by the USA or Israel? The Communist Chinese are NOT our friends and we should have NO trade with such monsters.

May the Chinese people one day have yet another revolution...this time to remove the abomination of communism from their midst.

But yes...Israel should re-institute the death penalty for terrorist murderers.

Also...there should always be mercy. And no...give me a break. A Gentile who steals should NOT be put to death. A ben or bat Noach should have the same laws applied to them as any Israeli as long as they reside in Israel. Jews do not get the death penalty for stealing! They must repay what they have stolen...they don't die for the crime! Neither should a ben or bat Noach.

Sheesh. Lets have some balance here.

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

I don't think any Arab mass murderer ever serves life in prison in Israel. 

[Nonny]

Sheesh. Lets have some balance here.

Of course, when Moshiach comes, there'll be plenty of "balance"!

In the ideal Torah Society, Jews are actually executed for Sabbath and Yom Tov profanation, adultery, idolatry, incest, witchcraft, profaning the Mikdash etc.

Gentiles are actually executed for violating any of the 7 Noahide Laws.

Amalekite baby girls are actually put to death on the spot etc etc

Gentiles who resist in the slightest Jewish control of Eretz Yisrael, are summarily dispatched.

Yes: there'll be plenty of balance in Halcyon Days to come!

[Sarah]

Things are seemingly turned unjust when the death penalty usually becomes enforced.

With the death penalty, there MUST be:

A FAIR TRIAL
WITNESSES
and many other factors that ensure the person being punished is defintly GUILTY. Because there are thousands of people EXECUTED due to misunderstanding, framing etc

I'm wary when it comes to the death penalty.
Sometimes a person does not deserve to die as they committed a mistake and can correct.

Others dont deserve the ease of death but more the HURT AND PAIN of torture.

Thats what makes it so hard.

Death is a hard thing to compromise.

[dawntreader]

Of course, when Moshiach comes, there'll be plenty of "balance"!

In the ideal Torah Society, Jews are actually executed for Sabbath and Yom Tov profanation, adultery, idolatry, incest, witchcraft, profaning the Mikdash etc.

Gentiles are actually executed for violating any of the 7 Noahide Laws.

Amalekite baby girls are actually put to death on the spot etc etc

Gentiles who resist in the slightest Jewish control of Eretz Yisrael, are summarily dispatched.

Yes: there'll be plenty of balance in Halcyon Days to come!

Who's Ideal Torah society are you refering to?

Certainly not HaShem's. The G-d of Avraham, Yitzhak and Yacov isa G-dof justice, true. But He is also a G-d of mercy.

As for all of these things you think people should be put to death for, exactly who defines what a Shabbat infraction is? A rabbi? A group of rabbis? Extrapolating on existing written Torah?

I'll quit being a Jew before I let some jack-ass Rabbi tell me I am doomed to death for walking to the Store on Shabbat. Or for driving a car.

Or do you not know the scripture from Yermiyah?

Yermiyah 31: 34 (JPS)

"and they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying: 'Know HaShem'; for they shall all know Me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith HaShem; for I will forgive their iniquity, and their sin will I remember no more."

This does not sound like someone ready to commit anyone and everyone who sins to death...but rather, even though the man or woman deserves death...G-d is merciful to them and forgives them. In the world to come, I think the Moshiach is going to be a bit nicer and more loving that you seem to believe.

[MassuhDGoodName]

There's no need for a death penalty...

Simply lock them in a 3' x5' bamboo cage, hang the cage up in a tree, and leave.

[MassuhDGoodName]

Re:  "...In the ideal Torah Society, Jews are actually executed for Sabbath and Yom Tov profanation, adultery, idolatry, incest, witchcraft, profaning the Mikdash etc..."

Why...that is absolutely ridiculous!

This would mean that even the very last Jew standing had to commit suicide!

How long did this society last?....longer than 20 minutes? 

In modern Jewish society, Jews face a fate worse than death if they do not commit each of those acts...they become unemployed!   

[ftfl]

That picture reminds me of videos we saw in history about what the nazis did as they marched east towards russia to any Jews or communists that they found.

[Fruit of thy loins]

The sad truth is that no one cares about mass murder of the Chinese and many other groups.

Part of the project of enlightening the nations surely involves rubbing their noses in things like this.  The USA has billions of dollars' worth of trade with China and it squeals about tolerance and human rights.  Typical silver-tongued Anglo serpents.

[TruthTyperII]

Americans are not Anglos, Fruit. Most americans are of German descent.

[TruthTyperII]

Ftf, most americans are of German, I believe around 43 million claimed german ancestry. They are descendents of the refugees of the failed revolution.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German-americans

I suggest you keep taking your pills:

[takebackourtemple]

Things are seemingly turned unjust when the death penalty usually becomes enforced.

With the death penalty, there MUST be:

A FAIR TRIAL

   A fair trial means that those who are guilty and deserve to die get the death penalty.

Because there are thousands of people EXECUTED due to misunderstanding, framing etc

   You really have to define where those thousands are executed and in what period of time(how many per year). In the US the percentage of condemed that are innocent is pretty low. When you look at the photo of the Chinese girl being shot on the spot, that is a different story.

I'm wary when it comes to the death penalty.
Sometimes a person does not deserve to die as they committed a mistake and can correct.

   In a perfect system, those and only those who deserved to die would die. In a system with a fair trial and many safe guards, that chance is greatly reduced. Should ten thousand guilty people be saved in order to save one innocent life? That is something to debate.

Others dont deserve the ease of death but more the HURT AND PAIN of torture.

   They also don't deserve to live off of tax payer money and receive full medical benefits, while their victims often have to pay medical bills as a result of the criminal's damage.

[Nonny]

There will be no free will when The Moshiach comes so there won't be a need for the death penalty or other forms of punishment.

The Messianic Era has various stages. It will be a New Order. A New Order means the Old Order will have to go.

In its early stages, the opposition to the Moshiach will be tremendous, from both Gentiles and Jews, including Orthodox Jews!

To quote Chaim's English co-host on the JTF show in 2001: "At the time of a Kahanist government, you Jewish traitors will be executed immediately!".

This is assuming that the rise of a "Kahanist government" and the Moshiach are synonymous, which has to be!

[takebackourtemple]

   Wait a minute. There is a death penalty in Israel. Arabs who sell land to Jews are executed by the PA(passed by Yassir Arafart). They are also executed if there is suspician that they helped the Israeli government. Forget about a fair trial. Half the time an angry mob brutally murders them before they can even go to one.

[takebackourtemple]

   Also, a convict who commits a brutal murder does not deserve an easy execution. They deserve one proportional to the cruel and unusual pain and suffering they caused their victim. What happened to being burned on the stake or drowned in salt water. There is a rock on Long Island called execution rock. The marshal would take the condemed to the rock during low tide and chain them up. As the tide would rise they would slowly drown in smelly salt water.

[Nonny]

The Lubavitcher Rebbe as Moshiach ben David, and Rabbi Kahane as Moshiach ben Yosef: they would've made quite a tag-team!

They were both worthy of the role.

The Malbim stated that Moshiach would emerge from America!