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Secrets of the Hebrew Language [Lashon HaKodesh]
t_h_j:
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--- Quote from: t_h_j on July 16, 2009, 12:34:44 AM ---how is Hebrew the first language?
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Hebrew is the first written language with an alphabet.
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I think you are wrong. If you consider hieroglyphs (which stood for sounds), then old Egyptian was one of the first along with Phoenician and proto-Canaanite. Hebrew alphabet emerged from the Phoenician one - the names of the letters are older than the Hebrew letters themselves.
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This is indeed an interesting question.
proto-canaanite? That is the term invented by modern day scientists, but who says Hebrew (ivrit) didn't evolve and that was its original form? Either way, the "semi language" of "proto cananite" obviously did not survive as a functioning language, hence the term "proto" being incorporated into its name by scientists. That reflects its inoperative, incomplete nature.
Hebrew may not be the first written language, or modern day hebrew may not be the original form it was written in, but it is the first spoken language. At the same time, I am not fully aware of the methods they use to determine that one language or alphabet is more ancient than another. So perhaps I'm wrong entirely.
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if that's the case, then who spoke it first?
Kahane-Was-Right BT:
--- Quote from: t_h_j on July 16, 2009, 01:48:31 PM ---
if that's the case, then who spoke it first?
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The first person/people who spoke a real language.
t_h_j:
--- Quote from: Kahane-Was-Right BT on July 16, 2009, 02:39:42 PM ---
--- Quote from: t_h_j on July 16, 2009, 01:48:31 PM ---
if that's the case, then who spoke it first?
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The first person/people who spoke a real language.
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so it was spoken originally, then its usage stopped until the Jews came into existence much later?
Kahane-Was-Right BT:
--- Quote from: t_h_j on July 16, 2009, 11:18:40 PM ---
--- Quote from: Kahane-Was-Right BT on July 16, 2009, 02:39:42 PM ---
--- Quote from: t_h_j on July 16, 2009, 01:48:31 PM ---
if that's the case, then who spoke it first?
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The first person/people who spoke a real language.
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so it was spoken originally, then its usage stopped until the Jews came into existence much later?
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No, why would that be? Jews didn't "invent" a language.
t_h_j:
--- Quote from: Kahane-Was-Right BT on July 17, 2009, 11:50:32 AM ---
--- Quote from: t_h_j on July 16, 2009, 11:18:40 PM ---
--- Quote from: Kahane-Was-Right BT on July 16, 2009, 02:39:42 PM ---
--- Quote from: t_h_j on July 16, 2009, 01:48:31 PM ---
if that's the case, then who spoke it first?
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The first person/people who spoke a real language.
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so it was spoken originally, then its usage stopped until the Jews came into existence much later?
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No, why would that be? Jews didn't "invent" a language.
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then who spoke hebrew before the jews?
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