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Secrets of the Hebrew Language [Lashon HaKodesh]

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t_h_j:

--- Quote from: galileerat on July 11, 2009, 09:13:37 PM ---Rav Glazerson, Isaac Mozeson and others have shown how all languages ultimately derive from the First Language, Hebrew.

Including English e.g.

hollow/challal, kid/gdi, money/ moneh, refuse/refesh, over/over, superior/shapir, sycamore/shikma, acaccia/ketziya, deteriorate/hitdarderut, cuts/kitzutz, luna/levanah, regular/rageel, shriek/shrikah, source/shoresh, tactic/dakdek, yell/yelal, abbot/avot, agony/yagon, albino/halbonah, amity/amit, ashame/asham, aura/or, berry/pri, call/kol, corn/goren, couple/koffel, dagger/dakar, elite/elit, evil/eveel, gall/ga'al, jackal/shachal, kill/kilkel, ghost/gossess, love/lev, cable/kevel, chaste/chassid, direct/derech, finicity/fanak, idea/de'ah, mystery/mestar, python/peten, rush/ra'ash, reek/rey'ach, psoriasis/tzora'as, riches/rechoosh, scale/shkal, secure/sagoor, cosmos/gashmius, sorrow/tzoroh, elect/likut, ravenous/ra'av,sparrow/tzipporah, suffice/sufik, therapy/terufah, wine/yayin etc.etc

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how is Hebrew the first language?

Mishmaat:

--- Quote from: t_h_j on July 16, 2009, 12:34:44 AM ---how is Hebrew the first language?

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Hebrew is the first written language with an alphabet.

Hyades:

--- Quote from: Mishmaat on July 16, 2009, 10:35:27 AM ---
--- Quote from: t_h_j on July 16, 2009, 12:34:44 AM ---how is Hebrew the first language?

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Hebrew is the first written language with an alphabet.

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I think you are wrong. If you consider hieroglyphs (which stood for sounds), then old Egyptian was one of the first along with Phoenician and proto-Canaanite. Hebrew alphabet emerged from the Phoenician one - the names of the letters are older than the Hebrew letters themselves.

Kahane-Was-Right BT:

--- Quote from: Hyades on July 16, 2009, 10:49:18 AM ---
--- Quote from: Mishmaat on July 16, 2009, 10:35:27 AM ---
--- Quote from: t_h_j on July 16, 2009, 12:34:44 AM ---how is Hebrew the first language?

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Hebrew is the first written language with an alphabet.

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I think you are wrong. If you consider hieroglyphs (which stood for sounds), then old Egyptian was one of the first along with Phoenician and proto-Canaanite. Hebrew alphabet emerged from the Phoenician one - the names of the letters are older than the Hebrew letters themselves.

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This is indeed an interesting question.

proto-canaanite?  That is the term invented by modern day scientists, but who says Hebrew (ivrit) didn't evolve and that was its original form?   Either way, the "semi language" of "proto cananite" obviously did not survive as a functioning language, hence the term "proto" being incorporated into its name by scientists.  That reflects its inoperative, incomplete nature. 

Hebrew may not be the first written language, or modern day hebrew may not be the original form it was written in, but it is the first spoken language.   At the same time, I am not fully aware of the methods they use to determine that one language or alphabet is more ancient than another.   So perhaps I'm wrong entirely.

Hyades:

--- Quote from: Kahane-Was-Right BT on July 16, 2009, 12:24:00 PM ---
--- Quote from: Hyades on July 16, 2009, 10:49:18 AM ---
--- Quote from: Mishmaat on July 16, 2009, 10:35:27 AM ---
--- Quote from: t_h_j on July 16, 2009, 12:34:44 AM ---how is Hebrew the first language?

--- End quote ---

Hebrew is the first written language with an alphabet.

--- End quote ---

I think you are wrong. If you consider hieroglyphs (which stood for sounds), then old Egyptian was one of the first along with Phoenician and proto-Canaanite. Hebrew alphabet emerged from the Phoenician one - the names of the letters are older than the Hebrew letters themselves.

--- End quote ---

This is indeed an interesting question.

proto-canaanite?  That is the term invented by modern day scientists, but who says Hebrew (ivrit) didn't evolve and that was its original form?   Either way, the "semi language" of "proto cananite" obviously did not survive as a functioning language, hence the term "proto" being incorporated into its name by scientists.  That reflects its inoperative, incomplete nature. 

Hebrew may not be the first written language, or modern day hebrew may not be the original form it was written in, but it is the first spoken language.   At the same time, I am not fully aware of the methods they use to determine that one language or alphabet is more ancient than another.   So perhaps I'm wrong entirely.

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And let's not forget it is the only language that has scriptures with original texts still being understood today!

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