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Which army is the better? The Israeli or the Iranian?
The One and Only Mo:
--- Quote from: bobish on November 15, 2009, 10:40:54 AM ---Armies have fought suicidal fighters, in the past.
And have won.
It happens today,,,
Muslim armies hold no special magic.
They get defeated, all the time.
A well trained force, and the will to use it, will do okay.
bob
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It's not the armies against the suicidal fighters. It's the CIVILIANS against the suicidal fighters.
hyperion:
Ulli:
--- Quote ---I read, that the Iranians gave up, because the USA pressured them and finally shoot down an Iranian civil aircraft. The Iranian army was short before victory, in defiance of the hughe military support of nearly the whole world in favour of Saddam Hussein.
They are not only dangerous because of their fanatism, they are in first line dangerous, because their culture is not a culture of totally failure.They are able to do things. I can easily proof it.
Look they are building cars, aircrafts, missles and lots of other stuff on their own. And the Iranian diaspora is one of the most successfull communities ever.
Even their foreign policy is able to split western societies about non Muzzie topics. I.e they supported the anti G8 protests.
The Iranians are in some regards like the Germans even in their current leadership's special form of anti-semitism. We must be extra carefull, otherwise we will suffer hardly.
I don't see an Iranian victory, but I see a hard battle, because most western politicians and people underestimate Iran heavily. Iran is able to bring terrible suffering into this world.
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Yes, yes what you said is completely true, the influence which the Iranians have is huge and they are actively work to destroy the western world, they wreak serious havoc even in countries, where there is no significant muslim population. Hungary is the best example:
http://www.break.com/usercontent/2009/9/jobbik-and-those-who-stand-behind-it-1318452.html
They don't care who they make alliance with. They aid and finance both neo-nazi and far-left groups.
Ulli:
--- Quote from: hyperion on November 15, 2009, 12:45:35 PM ---Ulli:
--- Quote ---I read, that the Iranians gave up, because the USA pressured them and finally shoot down an Iranian civil aircraft. The Iranian army was short before victory, in defiance of the hughe military support of nearly the whole world in favour of Saddam Hussein.
They are not only dangerous because of their fanatism, they are in first line dangerous, because their culture is not a culture of totally failure.They are able to do things. I can easily proof it.
Look they are building cars, aircrafts, missles and lots of other stuff on their own. And the Iranian diaspora is one of the most successfull communities ever.
Even their foreign policy is able to split western societies about non Muzzie topics. I.e they supported the anti G8 protests.
The Iranians are in some regards like the Germans even in their current leadership's special form of anti-semitism. We must be extra carefull, otherwise we will suffer hardly.
I don't see an Iranian victory, but I see a hard battle, because most western politicians and people underestimate Iran heavily. Iran is able to bring terrible suffering into this world.
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Yes, yes what you said is completely true, the influence which the Iranians have is huge and they are actively work to destroy the western world, they wreak serious havoc even in countries, where there is no significant muslim population. Hungary is the best example:
http://www.break.com/usercontent/2009/9/jobbik-and-those-who-stand-behind-it-1318452.html
They don't care who they make alliance with. They aid and finance both neo-nazi and far-left groups.
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Yes, hyperion, this is their true nature. Thank you for posting this here!
wonga66:
Spurred by the arms embargo, the Iranians have had to develop weapons that have been shown to work and are somewhat ingenious, even if they are one-offs e.g. a "new" 8-barrelled DShK AA mount!
0.55 here
The recoil when all guns are firing must be quite fierce, and refilling 8 boxes a shpiel.
Ari Ben-Canaan:
--- Quote from: ProudAndZionist on July 12, 2009, 12:45:53 PM ---
--- Quote from: Zelhar on July 12, 2009, 12:42:20 PM ---They fought a war of 9 years 1980-1988. Sadam Hussein took advantage of the weakness of the Irani Army because of the Khumeini revolution. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran–Iraq_War
Eventually Iran gave up because Iraq was threatening with chemical weapon attacks on Tehran.
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But if there is war, Iran will attack the Israeli civil population. >:( And what can Israel do against it?
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There are 18 populated areas in Iran.
The surrounding geography of Tehran is unique. It is surrounded by rock walls/mountains. If a nuke was dropped on Tehran all of the energy released would not only be direct, but would bounce right off the walls right back at Tehran, as well as the heat seeping into the rock walls and then radiating back into Tehran. A tri-convection oven. Fallout would be minimal because of the unique geography as well.
-Perhaps nuking one of their most holy sites would suffice. Perhaps not.
If it's us or them; them every single time.
-I like Persians. I study Zoroastrianism. I love Persian food, and music. I love Purim. I would not want to see Tehran get nuked. I would like to see Ahmadinejad and the Mullahs heads on platters instead. If Iran were to throw off the shackles of Islam we would have a non-Islamic non-Arab neighbor in the area. Persians have a lot of pride, if they get their heads on straight I bet they would LOVE for some revenge for being infected with the Arabic virus. - Just guessing.
Isn't part of Iran supposed to be part of Eretz Yisrael?
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