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Which army is the better? The Israeli or the Iranian?
mord:
--- Quote from: wonga66 on October 22, 2009, 03:04:06 PM ---The Talmud predicted that the final war will be between Paras (= Persia = Iran) and Edom (= Rome= Western World= USA), they being the only two kingdoms that'll exist up to the Messianic Age. And some opinions have the Persians winning!
As one on one infantry, the Iranian Revolutionary Guard look like being a match for anyone!
Iranians are known to be none too smart. But to make up for it, they are unbelievably cunning. Which makes them triply dangerous!
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I don't see anything in that photo that shows them to be a good infantry
wonga66:
In infantry vs infantry clashes with Hizbollah, Jewish soldiers of the IDF have not perform too well. The gentile Druze IDF soldiers performed better.
As Hizbollah & the Iranians are both fanatically religiously motivated Shiites, being variations on a theme, but the Iranians not being Arabs, in a pure infantry clash of 100 Iranians vs 100 IDF Israeli Jews, ceteris paribus, I would not expect anyone to walk off the pitch alive.
mord:
--- Quote from: wonga66 on January 06, 2010, 12:15:57 PM ---In infantry vs infantry clashes with Hizbollah, Jewish soldiers of the IDF have not perform too well. The gentile Druze IDF soldiers performed better.
As Hizbollah & the Iranians are both fanatically religiously motivated Shiites, being variations on a theme, but the Iranians not being Arabs, in a pure infantry clash of 100 Iranians vs 100 IDF Israeli Jews, ceteris paribus, I would not expect anyone to walk off the pitch alive.
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Thats because Hezzbollah has deep tunnels and the hills.The Druse live in hilltop villages so they're used to climbing hills.The Israelis are mostly city people not used to running up hills.They need harder physical training
Ulli:
--- Quote from: wonga66 on November 24, 2009, 06:38:06 AM ---Spurred by the arms embargo, the Iranians have had to develop weapons that have been shown to work and are somewhat ingenious, even if they are one-offs e.g. a "new" 8-barrelled DShK AA mount!
0.55 here
The recoil when all guns are firing must be quite fierce, and refilling 8 boxes a shpiel.
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I think the idea of this Anti-Aircraft Gun is good. But the calibre is too small. Very possible this gun is not able to load fragment ammunition. So it will be not so effective against cruise missles or low flying airplanes. Another problem of the small calibre is the lack of range.
In western armies even 20mm cannons are sorted out and are replaced by 30 mm cannons + fire and forget weapons like the stinger. This Iranian FLAK has a calibre around 13mm.
bobish:
The IDF has a number of counters to the tunnel fight.
It has a group of forces that train to enter and fight in tunnels, In the US we call them 'Tunnel Rats'.
Sounds like they getting a lot of wins.
North and South. Hamas has tunnels, too.
Also they helped invent a number of ground penetrating radars, with the US.
Very advanced. Info about them is still pretty hard to get. But, tunnels are not as safe as they used to be.
The Druzes(sp) IDF soldiers are some of the best trackers in the world.
Still believe, a 100 IDF folks are worth a 100 of Anyone infantry.
bob
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