Author Topic: Curses on Islam - They know the Temple Mount is Jewish (Read 2373 times)

muman613 · « **on:** July 20, 2009, 05:46:21 PM »

This is very upsetting news... Some freak Islamist made a statement to the effect that the Jews will never rebuild the Holy Temple because the Muslims will prevent it. This is absolute proof that Islam is the force of Evil and Amalek... I think that it is obvious that Islam is my enemy and I will work hard to see Islam utterly destroyed.

I have been mourning the destruction of the Temple since the beginning of the Three Weeks... The fact that these Amalekite Islamists are flaunting the will of Hashem is, to me, the ultimate in Chillul Hashem. I am zealous in my hatred of Islam and implore anyone who has the resources to do what they can to destroy Al-Aqsa, the abomination of Islam on the temple mount.

I have fantasies about being the one to blow up this atrocity... Please Hashem crush Islam and humiliate the enemy of your people... How long will we suffer with evil like Islam? Remove them from this world, please L-rd!

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/132477

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'The Temple Will Never be Rebuilt', Islamist Movement Says
Tammuz 28, 5769, 20 July 09 09:26
by Yehudah Lev Kay

(Israelnationalnews.com) The deputy chief of the Islamist movement in Israel Kimal Al-Khatib told thousands of children in a Saturday Islamist protest on the Temple Mount that the Jewish Temple will never be rebuilt. His speech was published in the Jerusalem-based Al-Quds Al-Arabi newspaper Monday morning.

“If the Jews think that their mourning will end and they will rejoice by destroying the Al-Aqsa mosque and building their Temple, we say to them that their dream will not be fulfilled and they will continue to mourn. Al-Aqsa is for Muslims only,” he said.

Al-Khatib was referring to the traditional period of mourning Jews commemorate every summer for the destruction of the Holy Temples on Tisha B'Av (The ninth of the Hebrew month of Av). The Second Temple was destroyed in 70 C.E. by the Romans, while the Dome of the Rock and the Al-Aqsa mosque were erected in 691 and 705 C.E..

The Head of the Islamist movement in Jerusalem, Icharma Savri, also spoke to the assembled children. He previously served as the Chief Mufti of the Palestinian Authority.

“I tell this gathering, swearing by Allah, and in defiance of our enemies. We pass this safekeeping from generation to generation. Al-Aqsa is the safekeeping of the future generations, one after the other, and the children are dedicated to Al-Aqsa. They are the generation which will free it from our enemies,” he said.

May DEATH rain on Kimal Al-Khatib and his entire family... May not one Al-Khatib survive!

Ulli · « **Reply #1 on:** July 20, 2009, 05:57:40 PM »

Sick bastards!

Spectator · « **Reply #2 on:** July 20, 2009, 05:58:29 PM »

The only positive point in this news is that the "Palestinians" again admitted they are stupid liars. They have been saying for several year that the Jewish temple never existed at Temple Mount, that its existence is "Zionist propaganda". Now they the say "never be REbuilt", so they admit they were lying before.

Ulli · « **Reply #3 on:** July 20, 2009, 06:08:56 PM »

Quote from: Spectator on July 20, 2009, 05:58:29 PM

The only positive point in this news is that the "Palestinians" again admitted they are stupid liars. They have been saying for several year that the Jewish temple never existed at Temple Mount, that its existence is "Zionist propaganda". Now they the say "never be REbuilt", so they admit they were lying before.

I think if you will confront them with this fact, they will not be impressed. For them it is only tactic.

Spectator · « **Reply #4 on:** July 20, 2009, 06:13:55 PM »

Quote from: Ulli on July 20, 2009, 06:08:56 PM

Quote from: Spectator on July 20, 2009, 05:58:29 PM
The only positive point in this news is that the "Palestinians" again admitted they are stupid liars. They have been saying for several year that the Jewish temple never existed at Temple Mount, that its existence is "Zionist propaganda". Now they the say "never be REbuilt", so they admit they were lying before.

I think if you will confront them with this fact, they will not be impressed. For them it is only tactic.

True. For them it's OK to use two contradictory arguments. Their point is to SHOUT no matter what about "Zionist occupation".

Manch · « **Reply #5 on:** July 20, 2009, 06:34:48 PM »

Quote from: muman613 on July 20, 2009, 05:46:21 PM

The Head of the Islamist movement in Jerusalem, Icharma Savri, also spoke to the assembled children. He previously served as the Chief Mufti of the Palestinian Authority.

“I tell this gathering, swearing by Allah, and in defiance of our enemies. We pass this safekeeping from generation to generation. Al-Aqsa is the safekeeping of the future generations, one after the other, and the children are dedicated to Al-Aqsa. They are the generation which will free it from our enemies,” he said.

If this is not a seditious speech, I don't know what it! This snake openly calls Jews enemies and is mocking Judaism. Of course bolsheviks are concerned more with keeping CBP out of Israel then with this muslime vermin.

GoIsraelGo! · « **Reply #6 on:** July 20, 2009, 07:46:08 PM »

islam is not only the enemy of we Jews, it is also the enemy of mankind.
May G-d please destroy islam and it's evil followers!

Shalom - Dox

Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks · « **Reply #7 on:** July 21, 2009, 12:07:17 AM »

Muman, these camel molestors are about as powerful as ants. The real problem is traitor Jews who don't want the Mount to be rebuilt.

If Israel truly decided it wanted to take care of its Arab problem for good, it would need most of one afternoon to do so.

Sentinel For Truth · « **Reply #8 on:** July 21, 2009, 01:02:38 AM »

You probably will not understand or even care for this, but the third temple is not something to welcome or wish for. The only time the third temple will be rebuilt is to coronate the antichrist to be the king of Israel. This will be "the abomination that causes desolation", in renewed Testament terms. Look how insane the Jews who control Israel are, it's no wonder they will be the ones to welcome him.

http://www.biblestudytools.com/Dictionaries/BakersEvangelicalDictionary/bed.cgi?number=T4

His identity is known with certainty today. I know who he is.

muman613 · « **Reply #9 on:** July 21, 2009, 01:05:24 AM »

Quote from: Sentinel For Truth on July 21, 2009, 01:02:38 AM

You probably will not understand or even care for this, but the third temple is not something to welcome or wish for. The only time the third temple will be rebuilt is to coronate the antichrist to be the king of Israel. This will be "the abomination that causes desolation", in renewed Testament terms. Look how insane the Jews who control Israel are, it's no wonder they will be the ones to welcome him.

http://www.biblestudytools.com/Dictionaries/BakersEvangelicalDictionary/bed.cgi?number=T4

His identity is known with certainty today. I know who he is.

Huh?

This is not Jewish theology...

We don't believe in a 'antichrist'....

There will be Moshiach ben Yosef, who will die in the war of Gog MaGog and then Moshiach Ben David will bring about the Messianic era.

It really doesn't matter what others believe, IMHO, concerning the end of days...

Listen to Rabbi Tovia Singer on IsraelNationalRadio to learn a bit about the Jewish scripture... http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Radio/Author.aspx/1199

http://www.jewfaq.org/moshiach.htm

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The Moshiach

The moshiach will be a great political leader descended from King David (Jeremiah 23:5). The moshiach is often referred to as "moshiach ben David" (moshiach, son of David). He will be well-versed in Jewish law, and observant of its commandments (Isaiah 11:2-5). He will be a charismatic leader, inspiring others to follow his example. He will be a great military leader, who will win battles for Israel. He will be a great judge, who makes righteous decisions (Jeremiah 33:15). But above all, he will be a human being, not a G-d, demi-G-d or other supernatural being.

It has been said that in every generation, a person is born with the potential to be the moshiach. If the time is right for the messianic age within that person's lifetime, then that person will be the moshiach. But if that person dies before he completes the mission of the moshiach, then that person is not the moshiach.
When Will the Moshiach Come?

There are a wide variety of opinions on the subject of when the moshiach will come. Some of Judaism's greatest minds have cursed those who try to predict the time of the moshiach's coming, because errors in such predictions could cause people to lose faith in the messianic idea or in Judaism itself. This actually happened in the 17th century, when Shabbatai Tzvi claimed to be the moshiach. When Tzvi converted to Islam under threat of death, many Jews converted with him. Nevertheless, this prohibition has not stopped anyone from speculating about the time when the moshiach will come.

Although some scholars believed that G-d has set aside a specific date for the coming of the moshiach, most authority suggests that the conduct of mankind will determine the time of the moshiach's coming. In general, it is believed that the moshiach will come in a time when he is most needed (because the world is so sinful), or in a time when he is most deserved (because the world is so good). For example, each of the following has been suggested as the time when the moshiach will come:

* if Israel repented a single day;
* if Israel observed a single Shabbat properly;
* if Israel observed two Shabbats in a row properly;
* in a generation that is totally innocent or totally guilty;
* in a generation that loses hope;
* in a generation where children are totally disrespectful towards their parents and elders;

What Will the Moshiach Do?

Before the time of the moshiach, there shall be war and suffering (Ezekiel 38:16)

The moshiach will bring about the political and spiritual redemption of the Jewish people by bringing us back to Israel and restoring Jerusalem (Isaiah 11:11-12; Jeremiah 23:8; 30:3; Hosea 3:4-5). He will establish a government in Israel that will be the center of all world government, both for Jews and gentiles (Isaiah 2:2-4; 11:10; 42:1). He will rebuild the Temple and re-establish its worship (Jeremiah 33:18). He will restore the religious court system of Israel and establish Jewish law as the law of the land (Jeremiah 33:15).

http://www.moshiach.com/
http://www.chabad.org/search/keyword_cdo/kid/237/jewish/Moshiach-and-the-Future-Redemption.htm

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When will Mashiach come?

Jews anticipate the arrival of Mashiach everyday. Our prayers are full of requests to G–d to usher in the messianic era. Even at the gates of the gas chambers many Jews sang, “Ani Maamin” – I believe in the coming of Mashiach!

However, the Talmud states that there is a predestined time when Mashiach will come. If we are meritorious he may come even before that predestined time. This “end of time” remains a mystery, yet the Talmud states that it will be before the Hebrew year 6000. (The Hebrew year at the date of this publication is 5763.)

This does not rule out the possibility of Mashiach coming today and now if we merit it. It should be noted that many Torah authorities are of the opinion that we are in the “epoch of the Mashiach” and the Lubavitcher Rebbe stated on numerous occasions that the messianic redemption is imminent.

Could Mashiach come at any time in any generation?

Yes. In every generation there is a person who potentially could be the Mashiach. When G–d decides the time has arrived, He will bestow upon that individual the necessary powers for him to precipitate that redemption.

Any potential Mashiach must be a direct descendant of King David as well as erudite in Torah learning. It should be noted that many people living today can trace their lineage back to King David. The Chief Rabbi of Prague in the 16th Century, Rabbi Yehuda Loew (the Maharal), had a family tree that traced him back to the Davidic dynasty. Consequently, any direct descendant of the Maharal is of Davidic descent.

Maimonides, a great Jewish philosopher and codifier of the 12th Century, rules that if we recognise a human being who possesses the superlative qualities ascribed to Mashiach we may presume that he is the potential Mashiach. If this individual actually succeeds in rebuilding the Temple and gathering in the exiles then he is the Mashiach.

What exactly will happen when Mashiach comes?

Maimonides states in his Mishnah Torah – a compendium of the entire halachic tradition – that Mashiach will first rebuild the Temple and then gather in the exiles. Jerusalem and the Temple will be the focus of Divine worship and “From Zion shall go forth Torah, and the word of the L–rd from Jerusalem.”

The Sanhedrin – a supreme Jewish law court of 71 sages – will be established and will decide on all matters of law. At this time all Jews will return to full Torah observance and practice. It should be noted that in this present age of great assimilation and emancipation an unprecedented return of Jews to true Torah values has taken place. This “Baal Teshuvah” phenomenon is on the increase and paves the way for a full return in the messianic era.

Will miracles happen?

The Talmud discusses this question and again arrives at the conclusion that, if we are meritorious, the messianic redemption will be accompanied by miracles. However, the realisation of the messianic dream, even if it takes place naturally, will be the greatest miracle.

According to some traditions G–d Himself will rebuild the third Temple. According to others it will be rebuilt by Mashiach, while others suggest a combination of the two opinions. Some suggest that there will be two distinct periods in the messianic era: the first, a non-miraculous period, leading on to a second miraculous period.

Maimonides writes, “Neither the order of the occurrence of these events nor their precise detail is among the fundamental principles of the faith … one should wait and believe in the general conception of the matter.”

Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks · « **Reply #10 on:** July 21, 2009, 01:15:54 AM »

Quote from: Sentinel For Truth on July 21, 2009, 01:02:38 AM

You probably will not understand or even care for this, but the third temple is not something to welcome or wish for. The only time the third temple will be rebuilt is to coronate the antichrist to be the king of Israel. This will be "the abomination that causes desolation", in renewed Testament terms. Look how insane the Jews who control Israel are, it's no wonder they will be the ones to welcome him.

http://www.biblestudytools.com/Dictionaries/BakersEvangelicalDictionary/bed.cgi?number=T4

His identity is known with certainty today. I know who he is.

I am a Christian and I have never heard that the rebuilding of the Temple will be a bad thing.

Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks · « **Reply #11 on:** July 21, 2009, 01:21:28 AM »

Oh, one more thing--in church yesterday, the sermon was about why G-d ordered Joshua to completely wipe out Amalek in Deuteronomy (i.e. the Amorites and Bashanites). We focused in particular on why even the women and children of Amalek were not spared. The pastor gave a very decent sermon on the subject, albeit a Kahanist would have of course done better.

Anyone wondering how G-d could consider women and children of the Nazi enemy to be as evil as male adults only should recall the "Fakestinian" and Iraqi toddlers who dance around outside their houses and throw around candy every time a Jew or an American/British soldier is killed. These monsters are truly scum of the earth, their cows and spawn included.

muman613 · « **Reply #12 on:** July 21, 2009, 02:04:24 AM »

Quote from: Bonesfan on July 21, 2009, 01:21:28 AM

Oh, one more thing--in church yesterday, the sermon was about why G-d ordered Joshua to completely wipe out Amalek in Deuteronomy (i.e. the Amorites and Bashanites). We focused in particular on why even the women and children of Amalek were not spared. The pastor gave a very decent sermon on the subject, albeit a Kahanist would have of course done better.

Anyone wondering how G-d could consider women and children of the Nazi enemy to be as evil as male adults only should recall the "Fakestinian" and Iraqi toddlers who dance around outside their houses and throw around candy every time a Jew or an American/British soldier is killed. These monsters are truly scum of the earth, their cows and spawn included.

By the way, he ordered Moshe to order the entire people of Israel to wipe out amalek. This was ordered in Parasha Zachor:

Devarim
25:17 Remember what Amalek did unto thee by the way as ye came forth out of Egypt; 18 how he met thee by the way, and smote the hindmost of thee, all that were enfeebled in thy rear, when thou wast faint and weary; and he feared not G-d. 19 Therefore it shall be, when the LORD thy G-d hath given thee rest from all thine enemies round about, in the land which the LORD thy G-d giveth thee for an inheritance to possess it, that thou shalt blot out the remembrance of Amalek from under heaven; thou shalt not forget.

http://www.yeshiva.org.il/midrash/shiur.asp?id=1329

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The mitzvah to remember the evil deeds of Amalek is not an obligation to merely remember that nation's actions, but to recall that we have an obligation to blot out the memory of Amalek. There are those for whom this mitzvah is difficult to accept; their humanistic leanings have a hard time grappling with such a commandment...

We have witnessed this kind of attitude in the past, as the sages say in Tractate Yomah (22b) "When God say to King Saul: 'Go and wipe out Amalek,' Saul said: 'For the murder of one soul, the Torah required the [intricate ceremony of] neck-breaking of a heifer, ['Eglah Arufah']. For all of these souls [that you have instructed me to kill] how much moreso would [such atonement be required!]' And even if human members of that nation sinned, in what way did the animals sin [that I should be obligated to kill them?
And if the adults sinned, what did the children do to deserve death? A Heavenly Voice descended from on High and said: 'Don't be too much of a Tzaddik (Righteous person)"'.

It was because of this attitude that Saul lost his position as King of Israel, because he acted compassionately to Agag, King of Amalek and did not kill him. Compassion towards the wicked is really wickedness. Because of Saul's misplaced compassion, our sages tell us, the evil Haman- a direct descendant of Agag - was nearly able to exterminate us.

It is along these lines that Rabbi Levi opened his speech in honor of Purim: (Talmud, Megillah, 11a): "If you do not uproot the inhabitants of the Land, and allow them to remain - they will become thorns in your sides, and will cause trouble for you in the Land in which you dwell." (Bamidbar 33:55) This verse is speaking of King Saul, and of his error in sparing Agag.

The mitzvah, then of wiping out Amalek, actually stems from the value of compassion and kindness - compassion on all those whom Amalek threatens to exterminate. This mitzvah is an ongoing one, and valid even today. The cursed Nazis were the spiritual heirs of Amalek. They did not just want to exterminate us; they succeeded in actually murdering many millions of our people, a full-one third of the world's Jews! Today, too, there are those - driven by a deep-seeded anti-Semitism - who desperately wish to kill us. These are the people whom the Torah commanded us to obliterate, to leave no memory of them...

syyuge · « **Reply #13 on:** July 21, 2009, 12:50:59 PM »

G_d willing the Temple will be built... and the muslamics will not be there to create any reaction.

Bond · « **Reply #14 on:** July 26, 2009, 09:45:06 AM »

There is no temple you fools. It is known as the Al Aqsa Mosque!

Spectator · « **Reply #15 on:** July 26, 2009, 09:48:50 AM »

Al Aqsa is an Illegal Outpost

muman613 · « **Reply #16 on:** July 26, 2009, 10:09:09 AM »

Quote from: Bond on July 26, 2009, 09:45:06 AM

There is no temple you fools. It is known as the Al Aqsa Mosque!

Bond,

You are an idiot and have no concept of History. The abomination Mosque was built on the ruins of the Temple which was destroyed by the Romans. As is the case with Islam they build their mosques on the site of the 'infidels' holy places. This happened in Israel and in India. Islam has no claim on Jerusalem. The Quran does not mention Jerusalem once while our Holy Torah makes it clear that Jerusalem is the Holy City where Jews made their sacrifices. History concurs with the truth that the Temple stood in Jerusalem.

The only people who deny , as you deny, are filthy lying muslim pigs... If you are one, please identify yourself so you can be purged from the JTF membership role. Muslims are worse than dirt here..

cjd · « **Reply #17 on:** July 26, 2009, 10:13:58 AM »

Quote from: Bond on July 26, 2009, 09:45:06 AM

There is no temple you fools. It is known as the Al Aqsa Mosque!

Is that what that Al Aqsa eyesore is?? I thought they raise pigs in that dump!!

Zelhar · « **Reply #18 on:** July 26, 2009, 10:16:45 AM »

Quote from: Bonesfan on July 21, 2009, 01:21:28 AM

Oh, one more thing--in church yesterday, the sermon was about why G-d ordered Joshua to completely wipe out Amalek in Deuteronomy (i.e. the Amorites and Bashanites). We focused in particular on why even the women and children of Amalek were not spared. The pastor gave a very decent sermon on the subject, albeit a Kahanist would have of course done better.

Anyone wondering how G-d could consider women and children of the Nazi enemy to be as evil as male adults only should recall the "Fakestinian" and Iraqi toddlers who dance around outside their houses and throw around candy every time a Jew or an American/British soldier is killed. These monsters are truly scum of the earth, their cows and spawn included.

‎The Amorites were not Amalekites. They were one of the 7 nations of Canaan whom the Israelite were commanded to inherit. As far as I recall, the two kingdoms east of the Jordan- that of "Sichon king of the Amorites" and of "Og King of Bashan" were both Amorites kingdoms, but Og himself was not Amorite. Rather he was one of the ancient giants.

TruthSpreader · « **Reply #19 on:** July 26, 2009, 10:20:44 AM »

Quote from: Bond on July 26, 2009, 09:45:06 AM

There is no temple you fools. It is known as the Al Aqsa Mosque!

The Al Aqsa Mosque doesn't belong there. They should move it to Saudi Arabia, Iran or some other Muslim hellhole.