All people hate Gypsies where there are much.
The people who defend Gypsies on this thread have no idea what they are like. They are ignorant and naive about this issue. I grew up in an area that was full of Gypsies, and I know one thing: there is no way I want any Gypsies to live anywhere in my vicinity. I know what Gypsies are like. I simply know, and this is why I don'twant to hear any PC claptrap.
This is exactly analogous to people who have lived among blacks being accused by white liberals from fancy areas of unfair stereotyping, telling them that they know several black people who were very nice and charming.
You seem to miss the point. Nobody here tries to whitewash the crimes the Gypsies commit or say "they were persecuted by Nazis, like we the Jews, so let's love them".
The point is that the nations who hate the Gypies most (Hungarians, Slovaks, Romanians) were enthusiastic Nazi collaborators, so when when they have problems with Gypsies why should we feel compassion to them? If you compare what Romanians have done to the Jews with that of the Gyspies, the Gypsies are just small gentle kids.
I think this is the "Post hoc ergo propter hoc" fallacy. I love cucumbers, and Hitler liked cucumbers. Does it mean that I am like Hitler. If Romanians hate Gypsies and Romanians were on Hitler's side during the war, this doesn't mean that Gypsies should become my allies. I am on the side of Romanians, Slovaks, Hungarians, and (grinding teeth) even Ukrainians because they are Europeans, and I am on the side of Europeans because they are closer to my heart than non-Europeans.
I agree, the thread was about the Gypsies and my comment about Romanians, Slovaks, Hungarians is a secondary observation and our relation to the Gypsies should not be formed by that of Eastern Europeans. But your last statement about Europeans who are close to your heart is very interesting. May I ask you two questions:
1. Why are Europeans close to your heart, and
2. Do you consider Europeans closer than Moroccan, Iranian or Yemeni Jews?