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Hyades:
--- Quote from: Madmarv on July 30, 2009, 12:31:49 PM ---
--- Quote from: Spectator on July 30, 2009, 12:05:20 PM ---You should also understand that Zionism is not a religion. It is the Jewish people's movement to return to our land - the Land of Israel.
Our religion is Judaism.
But those people who say Zionism is contrary to Jusaism are LIARS. According to Judaism, living in the Land of Israel is one of the most important things that G-d requires of all the Jews.
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Exactly. If i was jewish, I would agree on zionism most likely. But I'm not. Its like, asking you if you believe in our jesus, that he came and everything etc etc ... now its very normal that you don't, because you are not a christian, but that doesn't automatically make you my enemy what so ever.
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Hum, so tell me why we have a Chinese Kahanist, Christian kahanistas and even a Hindu Kahanist, if Zionism and Kahanism is only a Jewish matter in your opinion!
Madmarv:
--- Quote from: Hyades on July 30, 2009, 04:07:45 PM ---
--- Quote from: Madmarv on July 30, 2009, 12:31:49 PM ---
--- Quote from: Spectator on July 30, 2009, 12:05:20 PM ---You should also understand that Zionism is not a religion. It is the Jewish people's movement to return to our land - the Land of Israel.
Our religion is Judaism.
But those people who say Zionism is contrary to Jusaism are LIARS. According to Judaism, living in the Land of Israel is one of the most important things that G-d requires of all the Jews.
--- End quote ---
Exactly. If i was jewish, I would agree on zionism most likely. But I'm not. Its like, asking you if you believe in our jesus, that he came and everything etc etc ... now its very normal that you don't, because you are not a christian, but that doesn't automatically make you my enemy what so ever.
--- End quote ---
Hum, so tell me why we have a Chinese Kahanist, Christian kahanistas and even a Hindu Kahanist, if Zionism and Kahanism is only a Jewish matter in your opinion!
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I really have no idea why :) its like, having a priest Buddhist ... lol
Madmarv:
--- Quote from: republicandox on July 30, 2009, 03:58:45 PM ---I have removed my welcome post to mad marv. He's back forum members!
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What is a back forum member?
Hyades:
--- Quote from: Madmarv on July 30, 2009, 04:31:16 PM ---
--- Quote from: Hyades on July 30, 2009, 04:07:45 PM ---
--- Quote from: Madmarv on July 30, 2009, 12:31:49 PM ---
--- Quote from: Spectator on July 30, 2009, 12:05:20 PM ---You should also understand that Zionism is not a religion. It is the Jewish people's movement to return to our land - the Land of Israel.
Our religion is Judaism.
But those people who say Zionism is contrary to Jusaism are LIARS. According to Judaism, living in the Land of Israel is one of the most important things that G-d requires of all the Jews.
--- End quote ---
Exactly. If i was jewish, I would agree on zionism most likely. But I'm not. Its like, asking you if you believe in our jesus, that he came and everything etc etc ... now its very normal that you don't, because you are not a christian, but that doesn't automatically make you my enemy what so ever.
--- End quote ---
Hum, so tell me why we have a Chinese Kahanist, Christian kahanistas and even a Hindu Kahanist, if Zionism and Kahanism is only a Jewish matter in your opinion!
--- End quote ---
I really have no idea why :) its like, having a priest Buddhist ... lol
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No this is not comparable. Many Christians believe there has to be a Jewish state and that Israel is the right place for that.
Also don't forget that a Jewish Temple on the Temple Mount has always been the holiest to HaShem thus you should respect G*ds will to have the Jewish people in israel and also the Temple. And surely you as a Christian have all rights to stay there, you are a Noachide - contrary to the Muslims - who deny the whole Old and New Testament!
Muck DeFuslims:
Marv, I don't have a problem with an Arab visiting this forum to discuss and expose the evil retrograde force that Islam is.
But to be perfectly frank with you, there are some reasons why you can not be a completely welcomed guest as far as I'm concerned.
You explain your rejection of Zionism is based primarily on your identity as a Christian, and mention that there are even Jews that don't support Zionism. Fine. But I don't believe you're being completely honest or forthright with the members of this forum.
It's my opinion that you (as an Arab) have a fundamental problem with Israel belonging to the Jewish People and being a Jewish State. Your objection to Israel is not really a theological or Christian one; it's actually based on Arab nationalism.
I'm curious, do you consider yourself a 'Palestinian' or an Israeli ? I suspect it is the former. Frankly, I'd be shocked to hear you say you're an Israeli even though you live in Israel. And to be honest, I can understand why your Arab pride makes you feel this way.
However, while I can understand your rejection of Zionism and Israel as a Jewish State, I think you should know that this makes you my enemy even if we both detest Islam.
I can believe that you don't hate Jews. But I'm fairly certain you hate the idea of Israel, even though you live there. That makes you a potentially dangerous subversive. Therefore, as a Zionist who believes in absolute Jewish sovereignty over the Land of Israel it's impossible to feel comfortable with you.
Yes, as far as Islam goes - you're the self-professed enemy of my enemy. We have that much in common. But do not be deluded that this necessarily makes you my friend.
That being said, I think your personal observations about Islam and an Arab's perspective of life in Israel can be of some value to this forum and I extend my welcome on that basis.
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