Author Topic: Ask me about arabs. (Read 36617 times)

Madmarv · « **on:** July 30, 2009, 09:10:42 PM »

I'll start.

Does the veil (the one with the black and white colors) have anything to do with islam or extremism?

- Considering seeing most of the extremists and muslims wearing those, I believe there is a big misconception regarding those cute warmy veils. They are just part of the arabic tradition, nothing more, nothing less. Its like being an american and wearing the cowboy hat, or being scottish and wearing the tall green hat or playing the sax. I urge everyone not to link those to any of the violent actions done by muslims today, its an insult to the arabic beautiful and ancient culture, and its not fair. Muslims today have done so much to ruin the images of every inch of the arabic culture, the same as they are doing with media against Israel and the jews.

CorrieDeservedIt · « **Reply #1 on:** July 30, 2009, 09:14:07 PM »

um so basically you're saying that Islam hijacked arab culture?

ProudAndZionist · « **Reply #2 on:** July 30, 2009, 09:17:30 PM »

Why the arabs are burning cars and raping women in Europe?

Madmarv · « **Reply #3 on:** July 30, 2009, 10:34:58 PM »

Quote from: MuslimSlayer90 on July 30, 2009, 09:14:07 PM

um so basically you're saying that Islam hijacked arab culture?

No, they haven't hijacked it, they just ruined its image. Islam, all over the world, are the same. We only see the arabic islam image because its the majority, you don't see for example the muslim british image because its a very small group, but they all have the same values.. have the same religious teaching.. and also the language arabic was doomed to be the language of the koran. But the arabic language was there before Islam. Islam just adopted the arabic language, and the traditions, and everything, and they simply altered it for their own convenient.
I'm a christian arab. I dance arabic.. listen to arabic music (although I prefer western music such as rock, jazz, blues, but still..), eat arabic food, speak arabic, my family have arabic tradition (not me so much though..), we have the veil too, and we so far away from islam as much as you if not even more.

Madmarv · « **Reply #4 on:** July 30, 2009, 10:36:16 PM »

Quote from: ProudAndZionist on July 30, 2009, 09:17:30 PM

Why the arabs are burning cars and raping women in Europe?

Muslims, not arabs... the iffing muzzies... the christian arabs are busy progressing the country wherever it is, I can assure you this.

ProudAndZionist · « **Reply #5 on:** July 30, 2009, 10:50:15 PM »

Quote from: Madmarv on July 30, 2009, 10:36:16 PM

Quote from: ProudAndZionist on July 30, 2009, 09:17:30 PM
Why the arabs are burning cars and raping women in Europe?

Muslims, not arabs... the iffing muzzies... the christian arabs are busy progressing the country wherever it is, I can assure you this.

Are the Christian Arabs pro-Israel? On the YouTube I met a few Christian Arabs who were same with the muslims...

ProudAndZionist · « **Reply #6 on:** July 30, 2009, 10:50:52 PM »

Are you Catholic?

Madmarv · « **Reply #7 on:** July 30, 2009, 11:08:41 PM »

I'm actually a protestant, but I support the rome orthodox church in our village more. So, I think I rather call myself an orthodox.

About the christians you met on the net, well, I can assure you 100% that they don't know what Islam is or what lies in their book. And they don't know anything about anything. They just, see muslims as arabs like them, and the whole israel-palestine conflict as arabs against jews, they certainly don't know much about the history of this country, if you ask them all, they would say they prefer to live under ANY government, be it jewish or christian, but not under islamic ruling because they know they're - that bad.
They are like ... we hate islam, but we hate them because they're so dirty most of the time, they are perverts and very closed minded at the same time, if we have our girls with us, they will leave everything they're doing and come check their arses. They know this. But in the other hand, the mixture and mingling with muslims made them feel the same and sympathize with each other, not to mention having the same language (trust me ... the language alone is enough to make 2 sides feel they are one), so they kinda tend to lean to muslims side. But those are the ignorant ones, and they are so vulnerable for the reasons I mentioned above. Did you think I was born hating Islam and supporting the jews in this conflict? ... it took me time and a lot of reading and watching and etc etc ... but I had the mind and the courage to look at other people's points of views, and decides which one really fits to me. That's how everything gets changed to the better.

If you take Islam for example, they teach their scholars NEVER to question the koran, never to question their teachers, NEVER ever consider looking at other religious point of view, if they do, they will get punished severely.

Zelhar · « **Reply #8 on:** July 31, 2009, 05:49:59 AM »

מה נשמע, אתה יודע שיש לנו גם פורום עברי ?

I don't think the muslims ruined the Arab culture, Islam is the Arab culture. The pre-Islamic pagan Arabs were pretty much the same savages we know today as evident by the Quran- blood feuds, infanticide, robbery, fornication- that sums up pre Islamic Arabs. Yes there were different Arab tribes who were peaceful traders like, and there were Jewish tribes and Christian tribes. But they were annihilated when Muhammad took over the peninsula.

Madmarv · « **Reply #9 on:** July 31, 2009, 06:31:10 AM »

Quote from: Zelhar on July 31, 2009, 05:49:59 AM

מה נשמע, אתה יודע שיש לנו גם פורום עברי ?

I don't think the muslims ruined the Arab culture, Islam is the Arab culture. The pre-Islamic pagan Arabs were pretty much the same savages we know today as evident by the Quran- blood feuds, infanticide, robbery, fornication- that sums up pre Islamic Arabs. Yes there were different Arab tribes who were peaceful traders like, and there were Jewish tribes and Christian tribes. But they were annihilated when Muhammad took over the peninsula.

True. But bear in mind that in these ages (before Islam came, and moreover after), every tribe was a savage in some way... we can't conclude that only the arabs were this and that ..... it was the age of the sword, the age of ignorance, there was no governmental laws, there was no institutions no police nothing, violence was easy to achieve.
Lets also remember that "arab" is not an ideology, it only describes a people in a very specific ways and methods, such as language, food, music, traditions. It does not have any mentality or ideologies such as in religion. There can be good arabs, and there can be corrupted ones. Just like in every other society.

Zelhar · « **Reply #10 on:** July 31, 2009, 06:55:18 AM »

I agree with you in theory but in practice, there are hardly any good righteous Arabs, that are culturally Arabs. Sure there are ethnic Arabs like Bridgit Gabriel, Nonie Darwish, Josef Farah, and Waffa Sultan. But they all live in America, they probably think in English, and live like westerners, and they don't practice Islam. Show me one decent Bedouin Arab, a real noble one.

Hyades · « **Reply #11 on:** July 31, 2009, 07:21:34 AM »

What do most Christian Arabs think about Hamas, Fatah, Hizbullah and Iran?

Madmarv · « **Reply #12 on:** July 31, 2009, 10:29:46 AM »

Quote from: Zelhar on July 31, 2009, 06:55:18 AM

I agree with you in theory but in practice, there are hardly any good righteous Arabs, that are culturally Arabs. Sure there are ethnic Arabs like Bridgit Gabriel, Nonie Darwish, Josef Farah, and Waffa Sultan. But they all live in America, they probably think in English, and live like westerners, and they don't practice Islam. Show me one decent Bedouin Arab, a real noble one.

On that basis, why don't you show me one Bedouin Arab, that is not muslim!?
The bad arabs are usually muslims... and arab muslims are the same as british muslims or american muslims... they all have the same ideologies and ideas. Its just, as I said before, the majority of muslims are among the arabs, that's why it feels that the arabs are the enemy, not Islam.

Madmarv · « **Reply #13 on:** July 31, 2009, 10:31:12 AM »

Quote from: Hyades on July 31, 2009, 07:21:34 AM

What do most Christian Arabs think about Hamas, Fatah, Hizbullah and Iran?

The same as you do, and as we all do. But some of them haven't yet realized that because they simply have no knowledge of either history or religion of islam, palestine and israel.

Zelhar · « **Reply #14 on:** July 31, 2009, 10:33:12 AM »

Is your Hebrew as good as your English ?

Madmarv · « **Reply #15 on:** July 31, 2009, 10:37:03 AM »

Quote from: Zelhar on July 31, 2009, 10:33:12 AM

Is your Hebrew as good as your English ?

My english is a little bit better than my hebrew

and my arabic is a little bit better than my english

mord · « **Reply #16 on:** July 31, 2009, 10:46:37 AM »

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Does the veil (the one with the black and white colors) have anything to do with islam or extremism?

People might think you mean the veil women wear you mean the keffiyah ?

Madmarv · « **Reply #17 on:** July 31, 2009, 10:54:38 AM »

Quote from: mord on July 31, 2009, 10:46:37 AM

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Does the veil (the one with the black and white colors) have anything to do with islam or extremism?
People might think you mean the veil women wear you mean the keffiyah ?

no not the hijab, and dunno if its keffiyah, but u can see a lot of arabs wearing those around their nicks.

HiWarp · « **Reply #18 on:** July 31, 2009, 11:06:44 AM »

What is your opinion of the song Ahab the Arab?

Madmarv · « **Reply #19 on:** July 31, 2009, 11:29:09 AM »

Quote from: HiWarp on July 31, 2009, 11:06:44 AM

What is your opinion of the song Ahab the Arab?

Its funny

ProudAndZionist · « **Reply #20 on:** July 31, 2009, 01:44:03 PM »

1. Do you know Meir Kahane's views?

2. Lebanese, Lybian, "Palestinian" people understand each other? Or they different arabic languages?

Madmarv · « **Reply #21 on:** July 31, 2009, 02:00:35 PM »

Quote from: ProudAndZionist on July 31, 2009, 01:44:03 PM

1. Do you know Meir Kahane's views?

2. Lebanese, Lybian, "Palestinian" people understand each other? Or they different arabic languages?

1. No

2. Lebanon, Jordan, Egypt, Palestinians, Syria and many more arabian countries, understand each other but have different accents, like U.S.A and U.K, but they do understand each other pretty well.
But, Saudia Arabia have a very different accent that even arabs here don't understand on them. Don't know if Sodan speaks arabic, if so, then they have also a weird accent. Hmm... Tunisia, Kuwait, and these countries are also the same.

ProudAndZionist · « **Reply #22 on:** July 31, 2009, 02:07:11 PM »

Do you live in Israel right? You are palestinian or arab? Or both?

Madmarv · « **Reply #23 on:** July 31, 2009, 03:07:20 PM »

Quote from: ProudAndZionist on July 31, 2009, 02:07:11 PM

Do you live in Israel right? You are palestinian or arab? Or both?

If you are trying to trick me there, then I'm israeli now, before 48 I'm used to be called palestinian. I'm an arab christian.

ProudAndZionist · « **Reply #24 on:** July 31, 2009, 03:12:41 PM »

Quote from: Madmarv on July 31, 2009, 03:07:20 PM

Quote from: ProudAndZionist on July 31, 2009, 02:07:11 PM
Do you live in Israel right? You are palestinian or arab? Or both?

If you are trying to trick me there, then I'm israeli now, before 48 I'm used to be called palestinian. I'm an arab christian.

Not trick...really. A very important person in my life told me that Arab Christians are different from the muslim arabs. And that I should be not angry with you...I listened to her words. BTW because not only palestinains live in Israel.

How old are you btw?