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Muslims in South-Western Serbia (Speech)
Serbian_Radical_Party:
--- Quote from: voo-yo on August 17, 2009, 12:01:29 PM ---
--- Quote ---First of all it is not civilized to deprive people of their human rights and Serbs are accused of such activities by the West, but real Serbs know that Muslim are equal in right to Serbs in Serbia.
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G-d wiling, one day soon they'll be packing bags and move to Teheran. You can join your brothers there.
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This is pro Serbian! Yea right! Can a Serb say something like this?
You want to send me in exile because of my opinion? Very clever\!
You have no arguments and no theory and your messages only content strange suggestions.
Serbian_Radical_Party:
--- Quote from: Spectator on August 17, 2009, 12:09:33 PM ---SRS,
first off I am not against people who believe in Mohammed and Allah, (as long as they don't draw inspiration to harm my country from Islam or some other reasons). There are good and bad people in every society.
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This sounds more realistic.
If people want to live according to the principles of Muhamed on their own territory - than you can not stop them. If people in your land want to follow Islam, than they must accept first the authority of the country.
If Muslims want to install Muslim laws or in cause other people want to install anti-Christian (secular) laws then they will be stopped by the authorities o that country. What counts for Muslims counts also for other people. Do not think that Serbs look inferior to other people. Our Church does not teach that.
--- Quote from: Spectator on August 17, 2009, 12:09:33 PM ---
Secondly, I don't know who do you mean by "Serbian Muslims", be they Bosniaks or Muslims who live in Republic of Serbia or some other group. I don't know the history of their relationship with the Serbs. So I am not telling you how to treat Muslims in Serbia, it is your internal affair.
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Look on the territory of Bosnia and Herzegovina you have one kind of people - who speak one (Serbian) language. In my former messages I explained that Serbs were forced by colonial powers (Turkish Empire and Austro-Hungarian Empire) - during their occupation and colonial period on Serbian lands - to change their religion and to accept Islam and Roman Catholicism. In the beginning these converted Serbs were just called Catholic or Muslim Serbs. Later the authorities of the Austro-Hungarian Empire brainwashed Catholic Serbs and Muslim Serbs by convincing them they are not Serbian, but Croatian and Bosniak.
Croatians and Bosniaks speak Serbian language and they ancestors were Orthodox Serbs. It is not a coincidence that these people speak one language, share the same mentality and also have other things in common.
--- Quote from: Spectator on August 17, 2009, 12:09:33 PM ---
And I can't accept the argument that "extremist Islam was invented in Washington" or somewhere else in the West. The fact that the West tried to use them in Afghanistan and in Yugoslavia doesn't mean that they are Western puppets. As I said, they have their own worldview and far-reaching agenda. They as well used the West who gave them weapons and military training. Today they use these skills against the US and the West globally.
Time will come and they'll try to extend their influence on Balkans without the regard what Serbian Muslims think about that (and I am sure that at least some Bosnian Muslims will welcome them).
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Thats a possible scenario.
The radical Muslims are used by Western forced and they are to blind to see that. Their religious fanaticism blinds them. There are many historical facts which can confirm that Western power use Islamic fanaticism to achieve their geopolitical goals. This is not my attempt to protect radical Muslims, but they gained a lot of support from the West.
When EU and US give the green light, the radical Muslims will attempt to conquer Europe. You must know that their exists a driving force behind the danger of radical Islam.
sonja_yu:
--- Quote ---Oke we agree on this one. We both know that Muslim terrorism and Croatian terrorism are tolerated and allowed in Europe.
On other continents (outside Europe) Muslims are on their own territory. I can not understand that the US has the right to invade Muslim countries where they have nothing to search for. The American foreign policy is also contributing to the Muslim rage.
But I can not agree that every body who is born as a Muslim is automatically a terrorist; that is racism.
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One point - Islam is not a race.
You're born with your race and with your ethnicity, you are NOT born with religion, you get it with your education, from your parents, from society and that society isn't always healthy.
There are a few things wrong about Islam itself.
Do you see that people separate Muslims on "very Muslim" and "less Muslim"; moderate and non-moderate (extreme). It is true that in every religion you have fanatics, but think, i it normal than "less Islamic" ones are better ones?
In such cases, there must be something wrong with them, don't you agree?
Just pay attention of the lifestyle in those "very Islamic" countries. Nobody else wants that close.
--- Quote ---You can not compare the Western relationship with the Muslims to the Serbian relationship with them.
Are you claiming that Republic of Serbia is has the same policy towards the Muslims as the US has towards Iraq and Afghanistan?
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I don't get the connection of this and the part of my post it was replying to, I was talking particularly about the Liberals, in sense of Ideology, no matter if they're in the West, Serbia or Russia.
My key point is not the US.
You're defending Muslim just because some of them are attacked by the US.
Well, yes they are, but for other reasons much more than for just being Muslims.
From my point of view, they should have just left the Sunni and Shia in Iraq do with themselves whatever they would, it wouldn't make terrorists stronger, but rather weaker.
But, what about the NATIVE Assyrians there?
You have no idea how many Christian Churches were destroyed in Iraq.
Who is there to support the Assyrians?
Nobody and yet they are being oppressed and nobody mentions that, everyone is just mourning the Muslims.
Lebanon was a similar story.
As for Afghanistan, did you know that even Russian marines are helping there?
They are against Talibans and have no choice but to help the West there, since Talibans have connections to even terrorism in Russia, Afghanistan is its neighbor, so, it is far more in danger than anyone of the West and Afghanistan is #1 drug importer into Russia.
Westerners are responsible for Afghanistan and now... they don't know what to do with them.
--- Quote ---I agree that we must cooperate with each other.
You mention a cooperation with Europeans, Jews and Serbs.
But you have also other people in this world next to Serbs and Jews.
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And I mentioned. See:
--- Quote ---Serbs, Russians, Jews, Chinese, Hindus, Thai, Greeks, Armenians, indigenous Africans, Coptic Egyptians, Assyrians, Spaniards, English, French, Danes, Swedes, Dutch, EVERYONE who disagrees with Liberal policies is called either a "Nazi" or an Islamophobe.
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--- Quote ---We in Serbia have Muslim neighbors and it is not responsible to mark them all as terrorists.
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We have them as a product of oppression and conversion.
We don't say "All Muslims are TERRORISTS", as for connecting them with terrorism, well, we don't do that, they do it themselves.
Who is guilty for their religion approving rather than sanctioning that?
Me not.
We don't want to annihilate the Muslims, we want to save ourselves from their (extremely quick) expansion.
You need to understand that even those "moderate" Muslims are being murdered by terrorists, even more than others do.
Also understand that, among Arabs, you have some extremely, EXTREMELY rich and many extremly poor, who have lots of children, which they have no material possibilities to raise, they have poor education and too much religious connection while little self-consciousness, which makes them easily brainwashed and used by the rich "cream". You can't change them just like that. They don't live a life like you and me, they are too lost so it is hard to help them.
So, please, there is no point of defending Muslims here. Nobody wants a Holocaust for them, but we just don't want them too much in our lives and politics.
sutomex:
While I believe that Vojvoda Seselj had good intentions he lost the touch with reality during last decade.Thats why Nikolic is much more popular today in Serbia
sutomex:
Serbian_Radical_Party forgets that ne third of serbian people and a quater of Serbian land is stolen by Muslims >:(javascripjavascript:void(0);t:void(0);
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