Hello

[NoahideGentile]

Thats it, I have had enough of your fucken nazi views. You agreed saying you want rapist to come to the forum and spread illegal pics? You deserve a ban.
not only that, but you encourage all members of righteous holy JTF TO GO AND JOINA FUCKKEN NAZI SITE??? I VOTE FOR BAN ON YOUR ASS, [censored]-LOVING [censored]. YOU ARE FAR FROM A JEW, YOU ARE A TROLL. GO TO StørmFrønt AND HANG OUT WITH THEM, LEAVE US ALONE.

[NoahideGentile]

you say you want us to go to neo-nazi boards for the sole purpose of debating them? [censored]. you want WHITE GENTILES TO GET INDOCTRINED BY THEIR PROPAGANDA. ANYONE WITH A MIND CAN SEE THROUGH YOUR FUCKEN MUSLIM ARAB NAZI LIES.

LEAVE AND DONT COME BACK
WWW.StørmFrønt.COM HERE YOU CAN GO HERE AND THEY WILL ACCEPT YOU FOR NOW ON.


BE GONE

[NoahideGentile]

one of my good friends who was a Nazi white supremacist

So you make good friends with Nazi evil Supremacist and then try to tell us you're a jew. Get out of here.

[MarZutra]

Dude you are [censored] up the wrong tree my friend.  You have totally mistaken my words.  If a person comes on and insults or carries on like a savage than he should be banned but if anyone wishes to come on to ask questions, debate or converse....and perhaps learn....than anyone should be more than welcome.

Please do me the favor and read, learn and think before you type.  You are obviously new to this site and young.  We have Muslims, or ex-Muslims, on the JTF chat that have come on and done exactly the aforementioned.  Sarah for example...  She is at least open to converse, debate and learn.

Think before you type my friend...

[NoahideGentile]

marz-Nazi, Nazis and whtie supremacist HAVE NO BUSINESSES DEBATING ON JEWISH OR CHRISTIAN FORUMS. If you want to debate them, go to your local Klan meeting and introduce youreslf as a jew.

I'm not trying to insult you, i'm trying to knock some sense into you

those nazis may hate islam, BUT THEY ARE NOT OUR FRIENDS.

i am 16, not young, thats pretty old for a teenager.

[NoahideGentile]

I promised to NEVER insult or disagree with a jew. but you, I don't believe you to be a true jew. Perhaps you MAY be by blood, but no true jew can sit here and say " I encourage jews to join Nazi forums". sorry, can't happen.

[MarZutra]

marz-Nazi, Nazis and whtie supremacist HAVE NO BUSINESSES DEBATING ON JEWISH OR CHRISTIAN FORUMS. If you want to debate them, go to your local Klan meeting and introduce youreslf as a jew.

I'm not trying to insult you, i'm trying to knock some sense into you

those nazis may hate islam, BUT THEY ARE NOT OUR FRIENDS.

i am 16, not young, thats pretty old for a teenager.

Listen, I'll try to be nice as I know you ARE young.  Censorship is Fascism.  Insulting people deserve to be banned and NOT tolerated, just as you have insulted me.  If you look at my posts you will see that I have been with JTF far longer than you, therefore you might learn a thing or two.  Therefore, this is a warning. 

Rabbi Kahane stated once quite nicely "Those who cannot debate defame."  which is emphatically correct.  Rabbi Kahane debated ALL of the aforementioned peoples, so why shouldn't you and I?  That is where Rabbi Kahane shined via logical, moral and knowledge debate......with anyone.

If you read what I wrote, you will see that I did not say that it was ok for people to come onto this site and defame or attack us, not whatever.  If ANYONE wishes to come and discuss or debate with any member of JTF there is debate.  After all, how does one ever expect people to learn, acquire knowledge and possibly change their opinions and views?

[NoahideGentile]

If you look at my posts you will see that I have been with JTF far longer than you, therefore you might learn a thing or two.  Therefore, this is a warning.

i've been a lurker around here for as long as you have been a member.



just answer me this question: Should Neo-Nazis who advocate the genocide of zionist jews be allowed to post on JTF? yes or no, please.

[MarZutra]

If you've been around here for as long as you say you'd have no doubt read many of my 800+ posts....etc and would know my logic, knowledge and moral views.  Do you know what Nazism actually is?  To, again, answer your question of which you just stated the obvious yourself: if ANYONE comes on this site advocating genocide of Jews or righteous gentiles, as per "insulting" of my earlier posts, should be banned.  That is both logical and moral.  If a person, who happens to be of Nazi thought, comes onto the site and wishes to debate on political, religious, social subjects it is a debate which that individual will be defeated, as I stated earlier, because those ideologies are ALL illogical, based on fiction/political agenda, are immoral and have no factually related stand point. 

A good example is that many ignorant "Christians" partake in the White supremacist/Nazi/StørmFrønt type movements etc. but are so indoctrinated and somehow miss the fact that Hitler himself was ANTI Christian and was a homosexual gnostic pagan....  The very first peoples to be thrown into the camps were not Jews but devout Christians from Right Wing Christian Parties that opposed Hitler and his Nazi ideologies and thug practices...

Now if you would be so kind as to remove all the posts of which you attacked me would be greatly appreciated as well an apology as I see it would be very much appreciated and proper manners for this entire unfortunate occurance..

[Nic Brookes]

He claims you are a troll, every post he has made I have found something to disagree with  . Can we take action against him?

[MarZutra]

Shalom Nic and welcome to JTF.  As you have no doubt have read that JTF has many active righteous Christians, Noahides and questioning Gentiles on this forum, and even from the UK.  These are Gentiles whom actually have read the Bible and the Quraan along with the Hadith, Mein Kempf, The Communist Manifesto etc. and do not just accept what some ignoramus states as "fact".  You will find most of these people are very up to date with reality and delve through the vastness of Joseph Stalin's popular "Political Correctness" for what is factually correct, logical and moral.

As you can see by my conversation with NoahideGentile, we try to keep an open mind, encourage free speech, debate, learning and many new friends.  You can also see from my conversations with NG that JTF does encourage discussion.  We despise true racism and not the "racism" and "racist" molestations of the Left.  We do not judge people based on skin color but their deeds.  We have many righteous black Christians and black Jews on this site whom agree with our views as not being "racist" but purely judgmental on the actions of any peoples of any race. 

It looks as though the Administrator has reviewed NG's posts.  We do not put up with baseless attacks.  Most people on this site will get into discussions and debates with each other but very few insult.  The only time, I have seen, people turn to insult is when an ignorant and indoctrinated Muslim, Nazi or Liberal comes here and just starts to blast off without even attempting to delve into logic, morality and ethics..

Enjoy the site and welcome aboard.....
 

[kahaneloyalist]

lets all just take a deep breath and calm down, Marzutra, while Rabbi Kahane zt'l did believe in free speech he also believed in protecting the Jewish people, hence the JDL beat up Neo-Nazis on many occasions and prevented the Nazis from marching through the Jewish neighborhood of skokie

[sat_chit_anand]

Nazis can be defeated with logical rational debate.

[mord]

The Stormfronters are not as logical and rational as they like to think they are.

  They are geniuses compared to VNN posters

[Nic Brookes]

Shalom Nic and welcome to JTF.  As you have no doubt have read that JTF has many active righteous Christians, Noahides and questioning Gentiles on this forum, and even from the UK.  These are Gentiles whom actually have read the Bible and the Quraan along with the Hadith, Mein Kempf, The Communist Manifesto etc. and do not just accept what some ignoramus states as "fact".  You will find most of these people are very up to date with reality and delve through the vastness of Joseph Stalin's popular "Political Correctness" for what is factually correct, logical and moral.

As you can see by my conversation with NoahideGentile, we try to keep an open mind, encourage free speech, debate, learning and many new friends.  You can also see from my conversations with NG that JTF does encourage discussion.  We despise true racism and not the "racism" and "racist" molestations of the Left.  We do not judge people based on skin color but their deeds.  We have many righteous black Christians and black Jews on this site whom agree with our views as not being "racist" but purely judgmental on the actions of any peoples of any race. 

It looks as though the Administrator has reviewed NG's posts.  We do not put up with baseless attacks.  Most people on this site will get into discussions and debates with each other but very few insult.  The only time, I have seen, people turn to insult is when an ignorant and indoctrinated Muslim, Nazi or Liberal comes here and just starts to blast off without even attempting to delve into logic, morality and ethics..

Enjoy the site and welcome aboard.....
 

This forum is briliant! I'm loving it already!

[MarZutra]

KL you are absolutely correct.  My friend was a body guard for Rabbi Kahane during the JDL days prior to Rav Kahane making Aliyah.  The Rabbi spent many nights at his home in Brooklyn.  He is now living in Eretz.  I believe that all hard core Nazis should be taken out and shot, however should one wish to come onto JTF and debate with anyone here, he should be free to do so.  As I said earlier, if ANYONE comes on here to insult, slander or attack anyone without provocation they deserve to be banned. 

Perhaps, after being totally defeated in debate and shown how stupid the ideological ineptitude of ignorance they profess.....the individual might just step back and take a second look at himself as a friend of mine had done.  He is now a hard core Christian Zionist and he and his Christian friends beat up Nazi's and skin heads for fun...

[MassuhDGoodName]

In the past I have paid visits to the various Nazi sites.  They're really all one and the same to me:  NAZIS.  There is no difference in doctrine in them.  Good to know what they're up to, but "you've seen one, you've seen 'em all".

I am willing to bet that there is NO other forum on the WWW even close to the JTF Forum in terms of intellect, information, theology, discussion, and overall sheer brilliance.

I find it amusing how the Nazi groups send their clowns here; thinking they'll go "make some little jew-boys 'whine' and cry".  Then, once they're here, not only are they immediately identifiable for their cliched ID's brimming over with pseudo-patriotism, but they suddenly find themselves unable to even tread water in a whirlpool of Yiddische kopf.

Writing about the Nuremburg Trials and the period immediately following Germany's surrender to the Allies, author William Shirer quoted the Americans who first interviewed the captured hierarchy of the Nazi Reich.  All were stunned; for having been fed Nazi propaganda for years glorifying the various Obergruppenfuhren & Reichmarshalls, they were flabbergasted to find that in actual reality, the leaders of the Reich were the most mundane, uneducated, and unqualified of men; to the point of literally being pitiable.

[MarZutra]

Not to mention Homosexuals....lol  A very good book I read about Nazism was called: "The Occult and the Third Reich: The Mystical Origins of Nazism and the Search for the Holy Grail" by Jean-Michel Angebert  William Shirers books are very good especially "The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich".  What a scholarly work that was...

[Baker]

hi i am avi from israel bat yam near tel aviv.I am the hebrew admin.Soory for my poor english.I am a jew not religoes but right wing and nationalist patriot israeli.The arabs have killed my brother in a war.

[MarZutra]

hi i am avi from israel bat yam near tel aviv.I am the hebrew admin.Soory for my poor english.I am a jew not religoes but right wing and nationalist patriot israeli.The arabs have killed my brother in a war.

Shalom Avi, I'm very sorry to hear that about your brother being murdered by those filthy bastards.  Welcome to the forum.  I am glad to see that you are aware of what is going on.  You are right wing and nationalistic that is a very good start.  If you get the opportunity I highly recommend Rabbi Kahane's two books "Why be Jewish?" and his monster of logic and Jewishness: "The Jewish Idea".  You will very much enjoy them an gain a new appreciation of not only Jewish Nationalism but what it really means to be a Jew. 

Yishar koach ve shavouah tov brother...  MZ
I have a question for you.  Do you have any ideas or suggestions to attract Jews from Israel to both forums?  Perhaps Yeshiva students, Highschool/University students or even adults looking to converse with others whom support the Land of Israel and the Jewish people? 

[Baker]

I read the second book.I am admin and we are spreding haim films.

[MarZutra]

Kol hakovod to you.  I am in the middle of reading Dan Smoot's "the Invisible Government" and it is a fabulous book as well one called "The Rise of Radicalism".  Two very worthy reads from a purely political perspective...  Good luck in Israel brother. 

I saw the video of the Amona expulsion and I was saddened and disgusted at what Judenrot do to righteous Jews.  Arabs/Muslims bomb, rape, rob, shoot, deceive, murder, lie, stab etc. and they get nothing but more rights, more money, more training, more weapons, more excuses, more appeasement...  while Jews get the old shtupping.  Terrible...  I seriously hope Olmert and all of his socialist scum supporters be blessed by HaShem with colon cancer for their evilness. 

It is such logic that if you owned an apartment complex or a business and there are a select group of patrons acting like animals or savages, you'd throw them out.  1+1=2 no?  What a screwed up country.  May Israel be blessed with a Jewish General Agusto Pinnochet one day soon and truly cleans that country of its Muslims, Black Hebros and G0dless Leftist scum before HaShem decides to take action against such hedonism and filth that is plaguing His Land... 

[Baker]

The elecation in Israel cause amona.Olmert is a captalist.Israel has changed Into captalisiom in the last 10 years.Olmert is a lame duck.He is History.Bibi will win.

[MarZutra]

The elecation in Israel cause amona.Olmert is a captalist.Israel has changed Into captalisiom in the last 10 years.Olmert is a lame duck.He is History.Bibi will win.

I wouldn't say Olmert was a "capitalist" more like Socialist who professes to Leninism of Globalism or International Socialism.  Capitalist is more like Netanyahu only too with Globalist intentions with little Jewishness left...   Sort of like comparing Clinton and Bush....same [censored] different country... My two cents...

[Baker]

The last 10 years.16 families control Israel now.Olmert Do as He been told.Bibi is better but He is more of the same:elite that think about its own intrest