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First lady says US health care is unacceptable
« on: September 18, 2009, 05:31:20 PM »
WASHINGTON – Michelle Obama, speaking as a wife, mother and daughter — but not as a policymaker like a previous first lady — urged women on Friday to join her husband's fight to overhaul health care.

Her 23-minute speech, embraced by a receptive female audience at the White House, contributed to the administration's all-out public relations push on health care. President Barack Obama will resume it Sunday with appearances on five morning news shows, followed by a visit Monday to CBS's David Letterman show.

Mrs. Obama focused on the White House's efforts to expand coverage and block insurers' ability to drop customers who get seriously ill. But she stopped well short of the deeply involved, hands-on role played by another first lady, Hillary Rodham Clinton, nearly two decades ago.

In urging passage of "my husband's plan," Mrs. Obama stuck mainly to the themes and backdrops of more traditional first ladies, including Laura Bush. She hugged three female cancer survivors before taking the stage, and spoke repeatedly from the perspective of a mother and wife who sympathized with less-wealthy women's plights.

"For two years on the campaign trail, this was what I heard from women, that they were being crushed, crushed by the current structure of our health care," the first lady said.

Her Friday speech was part of the White House's strategy of keeping Michelle Obama on a middle path. She walks a line between purely ceremonial events typical of, say, a Pat Nixon, and the hefty policymaking role assumed 16 years ago by Clinton, a fellow Ivy League law school graduate.

Clinton, now the secretary of state, was hailed by feminists for taking the lead in crafting a comprehensive plan to overhaul health care when her husband took office in 1993. Bill Clinton famously said voters were getting "two for the price of one."

Politically, however, the effort failed. "Hillarycare," as detractors called it, was drafted in secret and thrust upon Congress and the public as an all-or-nothing proposition.

Its collapse contributed to Republicans' takeover of Congress in 1994, and Hillary Clinton never again played such a high-profile policyshaping role in her husband's presidency.

Michelle Obama, a former hospital executive, has the brains, experience and charm to play a plausible part in helping her husband craft and sell his health care agenda. But the Obamas absorbed many lessons from the Clintons' earlier travails, and the restrained, selective use of the first lady's appeal is among them.

Some political strategists think they are hitting the mark just fine.

Targeting Mrs. Obama's involvement mainly to women "is effective, because she depoliticizes it for people," said Jennifer Palmieri, a former Clinton administration aide who closely tracks health care issues. The first lady is fully credible as a mother and wife, Palmieri said, and she speaks directly to women who make difficult health care decisions for their families but are sometimes turned off by the fiery politics surrounding the debate.

"She can lift the conversation out of the Congress," Palmieri said.

By contrast, Hillary Clinton testified before Congress about her husband's health care agenda, tying herself intimately to the rough politics that eventually sank it.

Mrs. Obama was preceded Friday by three women with emotional stories about losing health coverage while battling cancer and other challenges.

"The status quo is unacceptable," the first lady said in her remarks. "It is holding women and families back."

Women are "disproportionately affected by this issue because of the roles that we play in families," she said. And women "are more likely to work part-time, or to work in small companies or businesses that don't provide any insurance at all."

Mrs. Obama urged women to call members of Congress and to rebut false claims about her husband's health care proposals. "No longer can we sit by and watch the debate take on a life of its own," she said.

White House press secretary Robert Gibbs said the first lady is popular, "and if she can help out, we're happy to have her." But he said he knew of no plans to have her speak again on health care in the near future.

Questioned Friday on health care at the Brookings Institution, Hillary Clinton predicted that the Obamas will succeed because conditions have grown worse for many Americans in recent years.

"Now, will it be everything any one person would want? No, of course not, that's not the nature of the compromise required in a legislative setting," she said.

Vice President Joe Biden will step into the health care debate next week, with scheduled speeches to the National Association of Insurance Commissioners on Tuesday, and at a Washington-area retirement community on Wednesday.

Meanwhile Friday, the Democratic National Committee announced and e-mail campaign, "Call 'Em Out," that asks party activists to push back when critics make accusations the party considers false or misleading.
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Re: First lady says US health care is unacceptable
« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2009, 05:35:04 PM »
When will people get it? You aren't SUPPOSED to have health care working at Subway or Walmart. If you genuinely think that it is realistic for a 40-year-old man to support a family by being a janitor, you're delusional.

90% of the middle-aged people without healthcare are illegal aliens, welfare schvartzes, or miscellaneous other people who have never developed an appreciation of what it is to work for a living. Almost every halfways decent or professional job still offers some sort of healthcare.

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Re: First lady says US health care is unacceptable
« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2009, 05:36:35 PM »
When will people get it? You aren't SUPPOSED to have health care working at Subway or Walmart. If you genuinely think that it is realistic for a 40-year-old man to support a family by being a janitor, you're delusional.
90% of the middle-aged people without healthcare are illegal aliens, welfare schvartzes, or miscellaneous other people who have never developed an appreciation of what it is to work for a living. Almost every halfways decent or professional job still offers some sort of healthcare.

You can support a family

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Re: First lady says US health care is unacceptable
« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2009, 05:47:51 PM »
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Re: First lady says US health care is unacceptable
« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2009, 05:51:21 PM »
When will people get it? You aren't SUPPOSED to have health care working at Subway or Walmart. If you genuinely think that it is realistic for a 40-year-old man to support a family by being a janitor, you're delusional.

90% of the middle-aged people without healthcare are illegal aliens, welfare schvartzes, or miscellaneous other people who have never developed an appreciation of what it is to work for a living. Almost every halfways decent or professional job still offers some sort of healthcare.
Most of the larger companies offer some level of health insurance however the thing that is rapidly changing is the amounts the employer is expecting the workers to kick in.
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Re: First lady says US health care is unacceptable
« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2009, 05:54:20 PM »
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I have a job like that and you can support a family on it

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Re: First lady says US health care is unacceptable
« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2009, 06:04:38 PM »
you're a janitor?

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Re: First lady says US health care is unacceptable
« Reply #7 on: September 18, 2009, 06:07:21 PM »
Bonesfan is right.  Plus, look at all the fat slobs out there with diabetes, high blood pressure, etc., who live off donuts and snack cakes.  Maybe if people got off their lazy butts, worked out, and ate real food, maybe less of us would need medicine and this health care circle jerk would be put to rest.

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Re: First lady says US health care is unacceptable
« Reply #8 on: September 18, 2009, 06:09:08 PM »
Crap jobs are crap jobs.  That don't pay well and they usually offer poor health care coverage if any at all.

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« Reply #9 on: September 18, 2009, 06:12:11 PM »
you're a janitor?
You would be surprised what some janitors make and the benefit packages that come along with the job
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Re: First lady says US health care is unacceptable
« Reply #10 on: September 18, 2009, 06:16:33 PM »
Some jobs are just entry level jobs for people who are just starting out. Young folks often don't even take the medical insurance most companies offer unless its absolutely free.
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Re: First lady says US health care is unacceptable
« Reply #11 on: September 18, 2009, 06:17:10 PM »
you're a janitor?
You would be surprised what some janitors make and the benefit packages that come along with the job


Interesting.  Good for you.

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Re: First lady says US health care is unacceptable
« Reply #12 on: September 18, 2009, 06:18:54 PM »
Excuse me, but, as usual I find your statement offensive.

The last PAID WORK I had I had no  healthcare at I was also working for the STATE taking care of dying, elderly and disabled people. Did I get healthcare ? HELL NO....they even had me sign a statement saying if I got injured on the job they would do nothing.

FYI illegal alians get healthcare here in America. Most of the illegals are here illegally. They get fake/false IDs and get th healthcare. Yes, it is true. OR the women have anchor babies, meaning their KIDS get the HEALTHCARE, FREE SCHOOLING, etc, etc, etc, they might as well be getting it also.

People that have WORKED THEIR ENTIRE LIVES cannot get adequate healthcare, if they get it al all.

*steps off soapbox.

NO< I am NOT advocating for Obama's healthcare.

But I had to speak up here.

Until CONGRESS and the ENTIRE WHITEHOUSE STAFF gets the same healthcare as all of US would get, I won't be happy with any healthcare that they propose.


Another thing, here in MY state, the people on welfare have to get a job or get trained or else they are excused from it for medical reasons. They entirely revamped it here.




When will people get it? You aren't SUPPOSED to have health care working at Subway or Walmart. If you genuinely think that it is realistic for a 40-year-old man to support a family by being a janitor, you're delusional.

90% of the middle-aged people without healthcare are illegal aliens, welfare schvartzes, or miscellaneous other people who have never developed an appreciation of what it is to work for a living. Almost every halfways decent or professional job still offers some sort of healthcare.
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Re: First lady says US health care is unacceptable
« Reply #13 on: September 18, 2009, 06:19:54 PM »
you're a janitor?
You would be surprised what some janitors make and the benefit packages that come along with the job


Interesting.  Good for you.
Don't jump to conclusions I was not speaking about me. Still and all some of the jobs are very good ones
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Re: First lady says US health care is unacceptable
« Reply #14 on: September 18, 2009, 06:20:13 PM »
When will people get it? You aren't SUPPOSED to have health care working at Subway or Walmart. If you genuinely think that it is realistic for a 40-year-old man to support a family by being a janitor, you're delusional.

90% of the middle-aged people without healthcare are illegal aliens, welfare schvartzes, or miscellaneous other people who have never developed an appreciation of what it is to work for a living. Almost every halfways decent or professional job still offers some sort of healthcare.
:fright:  Are you kidding?  I know plenty of janitors that support their family.  It takes many people to make the world go round, Bonesfan.  No one profession or person is better then the other.
Be very CAREFUL of people whose WORDS don't match their ACTIONS.

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Re: First lady says US health care is unacceptable
« Reply #15 on: September 18, 2009, 06:30:15 PM »
you're a janitor?

Yes and I like the job

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Re: First lady says US health care is unacceptable
« Reply #16 on: September 18, 2009, 06:36:39 PM »
When will people get it? You aren't SUPPOSED to have health care working at Subway or Walmart. If you genuinely think that it is realistic for a 40-year-old man to support a family by being a janitor, you're delusional.

90% of the middle-aged people without healthcare are illegal aliens, welfare schvartzes, or miscellaneous other people who have never developed an appreciation of what it is to work for a living. Almost every halfways decent or professional job still offers some sort of healthcare.

I agree with that.
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Re: First lady says US health care is unacceptable
« Reply #17 on: September 18, 2009, 09:47:07 PM »
When will people get it? You aren't SUPPOSED to have health care working at Subway or Walmart. If you genuinely think that it is realistic for a 40-year-old man to support a family by being a janitor, you're delusional.

90% of the middle-aged people without healthcare are illegal aliens, welfare schvartzes, or miscellaneous other people who have never developed an appreciation of what it is to work for a living. Almost every halfways decent or professional job still offers some sort of healthcare.

Do you even have a job