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Do you agree with intermarriage between Jews and Gentiles?

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Re: intermarriage between Jews and Gentiles - for or against?
« Reply #25 on: October 24, 2009, 07:07:20 PM »
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Re: intermarriage between Jews and Gentiles - for or against?
« Reply #26 on: October 24, 2009, 07:10:26 PM »
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Re: intermarriage between Jews and Gentiles - for or against?
« Reply #27 on: October 24, 2009, 07:10:58 PM »
This really is subjective. It all depends on the person. However, I'm pretty sure that in Judaism marrying a non-Jew is forbidden.

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Re: intermarriage between Jews and Gentiles - for or against?
« Reply #28 on: October 24, 2009, 07:27:54 PM »
This is really not a good issue for our forum... We all know its forbidden and it really makes no difference if we agree or not.
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Re: intermarriage between Jews and Gentiles - for or against?
« Reply #29 on: October 24, 2009, 07:32:55 PM »
This is really not a good issue for our forum... We all know its forbidden and it really makes no difference if we agree or not.

I agree completely.

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Re: intermarriage between Jews and Gentiles - for or against?
« Reply #30 on: October 24, 2009, 08:12:23 PM »
Well why not? I have mistaken also by saying yes but, whats wrong with this? Is it forbidden in The Torah?

Yes, it is forbidden to marry out of the faith.

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Edit: I would possibly agree to them intermarrying if the Gentile converts to Judism and is serious about it. I don't see how it's evil.

But if the gentile converts, then it's a Jew marrying a convert (in other words, a Jew marrying a Jew).   That is not an intermarriage.  The problem is when the gentile does not convert to Judaism and Jew just marries a gentile.  That is forbidden.

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Re: intermarriage between Jews and Gentiles - for or against?
« Reply #31 on: October 24, 2009, 08:16:32 PM »
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Well why not? I have mistaken also by saying yes but, whats wrong with this? Is it forbidden in The Torah?

Yes, it is forbidden to marry out of the faith.

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Edit: I would possibly agree to them intermarrying if the Gentile converts to Judism and is serious about it. I don't see how it's evil.

But if the gentile converts, then it's a Jew marrying a convert (in other words, a Jew marrying a Jew).   That is not an intermarriage.  The problem is when the gentile does not convert to Judaism and Jew just marries a gentile.  That is forbidden.

Also a Gentile who "converts" only in order to marry the Jew is still a Gentile and not a very hoenst one. Conversion for marriage doesn't exist in Judaism.

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Re: intermarriage between Jews and Gentiles - for or against?
« Reply #32 on: October 24, 2009, 08:26:17 PM »
But there are sincere converts to Judaism. I know some and think it is a very wonderful thing that a non-Jew loves Hashem and wants to join his people. The Prophets have foretold that in the days of Moshiach there will be a lot of non-Jews who want to convert but that it will be too late.

I hope that those who truly want to convert out of love of Hashem and his people do so before it is too late.

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Re: intermarriage between Jews and Gentiles - for or against?
« Reply #33 on: October 24, 2009, 09:00:32 PM »
really really really really against it...and everyone should be also...


but of course if the gentile properly converts to Judaism and truthfully, then that gentile is really a Jew and therefore it's ok.
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Re: intermarriage between Jews and Gentiles - for or against?
« Reply #34 on: October 24, 2009, 09:47:42 PM »
This topic is locked until Ron Ben Michael changes his name to an Earth language.
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Re: intermarriage between Jews and Gentiles - for or against?
« Reply #35 on: October 24, 2009, 10:10:35 PM »
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This topic is locked until Ron Ben Michael changes his name to an Earth language.

first change urself to an Earth creature
PS: try getting a new style of humor no wonder why girls like the 1,000 kms distance from u
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Re: intermarriage between Jews and Gentiles - for or against?
« Reply #36 on: October 24, 2009, 10:18:03 PM »
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This topic is locked until Ron Ben Michael changes his name to an Earth language.

U sure u Noahide

Why don't you think he's a noahide?

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Re: intermarriage between Jews and Gentiles - for or against?
« Reply #37 on: October 24, 2009, 10:19:29 PM »
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This topic is locked until Ron Ben Michael changes his name to an Earth language.

U sure u Noahide

Why don't you think he's a noahide?
He should actually understand what does it mean to talk to a Ben Shel Melech like he did

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Re: intermarriage between Jews and Gentiles - for or against?
« Reply #38 on: October 24, 2009, 10:27:15 PM »
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This topic is locked until Ron Ben Michael changes his name to an Earth language.

U sure u Noahide

Why don't you think he's a noahide?
He should actually understand what does it mean to talk to a Ben Shel Melech like he did

Why are you calling yourself the son of a king?

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Re: intermarriage between Jews and Gentiles - for or against?
« Reply #39 on: October 24, 2009, 10:29:18 PM »
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This topic is locked until Ron Ben Michael changes his name to an Earth language.

U sure u Noahide

Why don't you think he's a noahide?
He should actually understand what does it mean to talk to a Ben Shel Melech like he did

Why are you calling yourself the son of a king?

Every religious Jew knows that a Bar Israel is a Ben Shel Melech Ha'Olam and the opposite (in gender) goes to a Bat Israel.

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Re: intermarriage between Jews and Gentiles - for or against?
« Reply #40 on: October 24, 2009, 10:30:13 PM »
Dude, chill out. No reason to get insulting.

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Re: intermarriage between Jews and Gentiles - for or against?
« Reply #41 on: October 24, 2009, 10:32:33 PM »
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Every religious Jew knows that a Bar Israel is a Ben Shel Melech Ha'Olam and the opposite (in gender) goes to a Bat Israel.

I never knew that.

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Re: intermarriage between Jews and Gentiles - for or against?
« Reply #42 on: October 24, 2009, 10:32:52 PM »
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This topic is locked until Ron Ben Michael changes his name to an Earth language.

U sure u Noahide

Why don't you think he's a noahide?
He should actually understand what does it mean to talk to a Ben Shel Melech like he did

Why are you calling yourself the son of a king?

Every religious Jew knows that a Bar Israel is a Ben Shel Melech Ha'Olam and the opposite (in gender) goes to a Bat Israel.

Dan Ben Noah did not insult you.

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Re: intermarriage between Jews and Gentiles - for or against?
« Reply #43 on: October 24, 2009, 10:41:16 PM »
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Every religious Jew knows that a Bar Israel is a Ben Shel Melech Ha'Olam and the opposite (in gender) goes to a Bat Israel.

I never knew that.

Sad isn't it. Ask Chaim about this if u want or post a question in Ask The Rabbi program in Yeshiva or Kippa if u understand Hebrew.

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Re: intermarriage between Jews and Gentiles - for or against?
« Reply #44 on: October 24, 2009, 10:42:11 PM »
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This topic is locked until Ron Ben Michael changes his name to an Earth language.

U sure u Noahide

Why don't you think he's a noahide?
He should actually understand what does it mean to talk to a Ben Shel Melech like he did

Why are you calling yourself the son of a king?

Every religious Jew knows that a Bar Israel is a Ben Shel Melech Ha'Olam and the opposite (in gender) goes to a Bat Israel.

Dan Ben Noah did not insult you.

Not like he wasn't trying to or his tone was just as annoying as his sense of "humor".

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Re: intermarriage between Jews and Gentiles - for or against?
« Reply #45 on: October 24, 2009, 11:21:39 PM »
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This topic is locked until Ron Ben Michael changes his name to an Earth language.

first change urself to an Earth creature
PS: try getting a new style of humor no wonder why girls like the 1,000 kms distance from u

Dude, Dan Ben Noah is the funniest guy on this forum, so challenging his sense of humor is not getting you anywhere.   As for the girls and 1000 km, I have no clue what you're talking about, but it sounds like a lame middle-school style "dis."   Just MO.   I am an advocate of keeping the conversation civil here.

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Re: intermarriage between Jews and Gentiles - for or against?
« Reply #46 on: October 24, 2009, 11:33:16 PM »
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This topic is locked until Ron Ben Michael changes his name to an Earth language.

first change urself to an Earth creature
PS: try getting a new style of humor no wonder why girls like the 1,000 kms distance from u

Dude, Dan Ben Noah is the funniest guy on this forum, so challenging his sense of humor is not getting you anywhere.   As for the girls and 1000 km, I have no clue what you're talking about, but it sounds like a lame middle-school style "dis."   Just MO.   I am an advocate of keeping the conversation civil here.

Man, the only place he's noticed. I doubt and challenge his sense of humor lol, the only thing he made me feel is mercy on his nerdy-childish jokes.
As for the middle-school style BS, neh, it's the truth, sometimes funny, sometimes painful, this time painful.  :'( just funny and pathetic how u people worship this guy.

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Re: intermarriage between Jews and Gentiles - for or against?
« Reply #47 on: October 24, 2009, 11:35:35 PM »
I think two people who want to get married should have the same religion.

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Re: intermarriage between Jews and Gentiles - for or against?
« Reply #48 on: October 24, 2009, 11:55:25 PM »
I think two people who want to get married should have the same religion.
This should be just common sense.

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Re: intermarriage between Jews and Gentiles - for or against?
« Reply #49 on: October 24, 2009, 11:56:47 PM »
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This topic is locked until Ron Ben Michael changes his name to an Earth language.

first change urself to an Earth creature
PS: try getting a new style of humor no wonder why girls like the 1,000 kms distance from u

Dude, Dan Ben Noah is the funniest guy on this forum, so challenging his sense of humor is not getting you anywhere.   As for the girls and 1000 km, I have no clue what you're talking about, but it sounds like a lame middle-school style "dis."   Just MO.   I am an advocate of keeping the conversation civil here.

Man, the only place he's noticed. I doubt and challenge his sense of humor lol, the only thing he made me feel is mercy on his nerdy-childish jokes.
As for the middle-school style BS, neh, it's the truth, sometimes funny, sometimes painful, this time painful.  :'( just funny and pathetic how u people worship this guy.

Worship the guy?   In what way?  You have a wild imagination, it seems.

I don't really know anything about his personal life, other than the fact that he puts a lot of time into this forum, he learned Hebrew, and he is a Noahide.   If you do know something about his personal life, you shouldn't be saying stuff like that.   That would be rather childish and offensive.   Then again, you are probably just making stuff up.   But in that case, why make middle school disses out of thin air?