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Can you be a righteous Muslim?
Harzel:
Islam defines What is G-d with greater similarity to the Jewish definition. But as for What G-d says Isalm and Judaism differ immensely.
--- Quote ---Chaim stated on this week's Ask JTF that it is a key point of Torah Judaism to accept that Muslims do in fact believe in the one true G-d (based on the conclusions of Maimonides), and I believe having heard/read that in principle, a Jew could convert to Islam and not be guilty of sin (depending on how literally he or she meant it, of course). Does this mean that it is in principle possible to be a righteous Muslim?
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The Rambam said Jews who pretended to convert to Islam only to save their life are forgiven and should be readmitted to the Jewish community. Some say the Rambam himself, who fled from muslim occupied Spain, had to fake conversion.
--- Quote ---Were there any Muslims during this so-called "golden age" who were analogous to Christian Zionists today and genuinely loved and supported Jews?
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At some brief period muslim occupied Spain was tollerant to Jews living there with little persecutions. These muslims were semi secular and didn't took too literally the insanities of their religion. But it was a rather short era. By the time of the Rambam moors from Morocco took over and brought an end to tolerance.
Spectator:
--- Quote from: Zelhar on November 10, 2009, 02:56:10 PM ---Islam defines What is G-d with greater similarity to the Jewish definition. But as for What G-d says Isalm and Judaism differ immensely.
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You are right. One of the differences is shown at your logo.
Kahane-Was-Right BT:
A "righteous Muslim" is one who refrains from following his religion in its true form. He would be on the one hand, a guy who believes in one God, and therefore because there is a God refrains from murder, theft, hurting animals, etc... Basically the 7 noahide laws. But on top of that, he does not follow islam in its truest form which is jihad for the sake of expanding dar al islam. Jihad is an underlying principle of the Muslim religion, so the only way a so-called "Muslim" can be righteous is if he doesn't actually follow Islam, by rejecting the principle of jihad (and maybe some other things, Jew-hatred included) even though ostensibly "muslim."
Kahane-Was-Right BT:
--- Quote from: Ben Yehuda on November 10, 2009, 02:04:28 PM ---Is it possible that Maimonides seeming views on islam are not his true views given that he lived within a muslim world, and any talk against islam would have spelt great trouble for him?
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No because he openly called Muhammad a Madman in his letter to Yemen, and he openly spoke of the barbaric attacks that fanatic muslims had committed against Jews by trying to conquer and/or forcing them to convert in various places. His writings were directed to the Jewish community, and at the time, he sat in a place where it was less hostile to Jews. (His family had to escape Spain when he was a child, as the fanatics came to convert people by the sword). He openly stated his true beliefs in his writings. And included in Rambam's writings were emphatic statements that Muhammad was not only a lunatic but the entire Islamic "religion" was based on his falsehood as he pretended to be a prophet, which the Jews reject.
Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks:
Why do you think that in the Middle Ages, a pretty substantial school of Islam more or less tolerated Jewry? What was the Koranic/Hadithic argument they used for this?
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