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Indian Priest hates Israelis
« on: December 13, 2009, 08:11:45 AM »
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   Book report in local Indian media
 
   
     

Book in India: Israelis crooks, drug addicts

Catholic priest in Goa publishes book on 'dealing with tourists from Israel,' whom he calls 'druggies' that make real nuisance. He claims Israelis behave this way because they 'go crazy from military service'

Anat Shalev
Published:    12.13.09, 13:57 / Israel News

This is the impression that young Israelis leave behind in Goa. Indian media outlets reported Sunday on a new book published by a Catholic priest in Goa, a tourist hot spot, that purportedly describes the behavior of tourists from Israel and "ways to deal with them."

 
'The night here never ends. They (Israelis) just party with trance music and get intoxicated with drugs and alcohol. They kiss and touch each other openly. They also appear to switch partners," the book claims.

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The book, 'Claiming the right to say no: a study of Israeli tourist behavior and patterns in Goa', is 96 pages authored by 11 seminarians or priests-in-training working under the tutelage of Goa archbishop Filipe Neri Ferrao.

 
In the opening chapter, brother Myron Jeson Barretto described how the priests studied Israelis tourists in undercover operations and said: "We had to follow them as the cat follows the rat."

 
The priests explain Israelis' behavior citing the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and their military service. In a chapter called "The Sababa experience," the book claims "Can you imagine young boys killing people. They (Israelis) go mad while in the services. The government sends these people to relaxation hubs. One of them is Goa."

 
"They (Israelis) are a nuisance to everybody in and around Palolem (a popular beach in south Goa). Their dominating nature and other monkey business drives away other tourists. So why do we need them?" quipped the book.

 
Ivar Fjeld, a Norwegian journalist who has worked for many years in India, said in conversation with Ynet that he was shocked to read reports on the book in the local news.

 
"This is the first time I saw the rhetoric that the Nazis used in an Indian publication. I met Israeli tourists in Goa and have worked closely with them. An Israeli tourist told me she doesn't feel safe there and that there is a sense of growing anti-Semitism, so much so that many visitors are afraid to reveal their Israeli identity," Fjeld said.

 
According to Fjeld, the report indicates a direct impact from the political situation: "I think it is related to the escalation in relations with Israel and the Jews throughout the world. There is a sense that Israelis are not receiving the affection they need to feel when they arrive in various place throughout the world, including India."

 

    * Initial information received via Red Mail
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Re: Indian Priest hates Israelis
« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2009, 08:17:08 AM »
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Article's topics: India,  Tourism,  Goa

A book published by the Council for Social Justice and Peace (CSJP), an arm of the Roman Catholic Church in Goa, presents Israeli tourists as a "burden" to those who live in the area.
The <i>Gomantak Times</i>...

The Gomantak Times article entitled "Satanic Visitors?"
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Claiming the right to say no: a study of Israeli tourist behavior and patterns in Goa was authored by 11 seminarians in 14 sections and totals 96-pages in length.

The study was based on an undercover survey and personal experiences of the members of the seminary as they traveled around Goa finding Israelis in the many tourist spots.

Officially released by the Goa archbishop Filipe Neri Ferrao on Sunday, the book critiques the behavior of Israeli tourists with copies available for sale at several church-supported outlets throughout Goa.

The first article by Dr. Victor Ferrao of the Rachol Seminary entitled "Tourism in Goa: A Narrative Construction of Hosts and Visitors" states that while performing his on both the Israeli and Russian visitors he found there to be "disastrous socio-economic, political, environmental consequences of enclavization of tourism,"

"Their motivation, expectations, travel patterns, and activities have little to offer to the local communities," Ferrao wrote. "This results into a substantial displacement of the locals."

He went on to write that the two groups bring cultural, political, economic, social and environmental consequences on the host community."

"One can also notice many unbecoming activities like flesh trade, drug abuse, rave parties and crimes like rapes, murder etc., making hay as the sun of tourism refuses to set on our land," Ferrao wrote.

"This loss of control of the locals over tourism activities in their localities will receive even greater momentum if the demand for an independent tourism board is realized."

Tourists from Israel, along with those from Britain, Russia and Germany, top the number of tourists arriving in Goa every tourist season. Out of the two million tourists coming to the state each year, nearly 450,000 are foreigners.

The second section of the report, called "Is Goa The Rome of the East or Israel in the East?" points out the military training ofIsraelis and its effect on how they act once they get to Goa.

"The disciplined and strict environment, the encounters, the shoot-outs somehow distorts their psyche and thus becomes a burden to treat," the report stated. "So these people are sent on holidays to different destinations in order to recover themselves and Goa is one
of the destinations."

In Myron Jeson Barretto's article "My Experience/ Understanding of Israeli Tourists and Other Tourists at Vagator and Arambol Beach," he walked around Goa's beaches and spoke to non-Israeli tourists on how they viewed theIsraelis.

In one section he quotes a tourist from the UK who gave his opinion on Israelis in Goa as saying that Israelis come to the area and bring with them drugs from Pakistan, Afghanistan and Kashmire, then use Goans and Indians to sell it. Israelis go to pakiland Afghanistan and Kashmire? this guy is nuts

"The Israelis who sell drugs have control over the Ministers from Goa to Delhi," the tourist said. "They pay them a large amount of money. They also bribe the police."

In Manuel D'Souza's article, "The Sababa Experience," he writes, "Americans under the guilt of Holocaust of Jews gifted Israel a state and are supporting them in their expansion."

"Why isn't anybody reacting, It's America-Supported" D'Souza wrote. "There is compulsory military training and service for everyone in Israel. Can you imagine young boys killing people? They go mad while in the services. The government sent these people to relaxation hubs. One of them is Goa."

An article on the front page of Gomantak Times, an English daily in Goa, took a look at the book as well and entitled their article "Satanic Visitors?
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Re: Indian Priest hates Israelis
« Reply #2 on: December 13, 2009, 08:55:28 AM »
Some JTF jewish member asked me in Ask Hindu Zionist thread, about which places to avoid while touring India. And i had rightly adviced him to avoid Goa at all costs, and now this news.

THere is strong anti-Semitic,anti-Hindu wave in Goa. I feel sad about this, since i'm a Goa Native. THis place is dominated with lot of Christian majority areas and now Muslims enroaching. the government in power in this state is Indian National COngress. Numerous right wing Hindu organisations have been implicated in recent months under false cases. I have heard reports that Mossad has increased its presence in Goa, as Jewish tourists here are vulnarable.

Our enemies will come up with any propoganda, like this Catholic preist. A Muslim leader raised a issue here that right wing Hindu organisations are working together with Israel-Jews, here's the article:

http://www.hindujagruti.org/news/8141.html

  • As Israel’s racialist nature is being exposed, now it may attack its Synagogues (The Holy place of Jews) in India with the help of militant organizations Sanatan Sanstha and Abhinav Bharat and will try to defame Muslims through it.

  • Sanatan Sanstha and Abhinav Bharat are pro-Israeli organizations and they want to break India into pieces by pushing their pro-Brahmin agenda

    ‘Awami Bharat’ demanded that Sanatan Sanstha, Abhinav Bharat and Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh should be banned.  India should also ban a racist country like Israel.

Jews and Hindus find common ground when their enemies corner them like this. Goa has seen Portuguese Inquisition, Muslim invaders and Socialist rulers, and have confronted all of them standing tall.

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Re: Indian Priest hates Israelis
« Reply #3 on: December 13, 2009, 09:54:20 AM »
I'm not surprised by it, lots of people in the Jew Hating club.

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Re: Indian Priest hates Israelis
« Reply #4 on: December 13, 2009, 11:23:09 AM »
This priest, yimach schmo, seems to continue in the infamous tradition of the Portuguese inquisition.

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« Reply #5 on: December 13, 2009, 08:07:18 PM »
They may be still under the impression that Salazar rules over the world.
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« Reply #6 on: December 13, 2009, 08:33:03 PM »
This sounds like classic theological anti-Semitism, not any actual concern with Israeli "druggies". (Not that true Christian theology is anti-Semitic; you get my drift.)

Hindu Zionist, I do hope that you realize that these are traitor/fraud so-called Christians that have ruined Goa.

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« Reply #7 on: December 13, 2009, 10:35:32 PM »
The problem isn't Indian Christians.. The problem is the anti-semitic Catholic and Syrian Orhtodox churches that rule those areas..  Sad to say it, many catholics and orthodox christians still hate Jews, although there are many people in those faiths that support Israel.

I have met many Zionist, Pro-Israeli Christians in India.  Many come from Andhra Pradesh, Tamil Nadu, Kerala.     I have good Indian Christian friend, named "Israel".  There is great support for Israel by many Indian Christians.

There are also hindus who hate Jews and Israel and support the muslims.  I have met them, myself and talked to them, so don't say they don't exist too! 

I know the majority of Hindus, Sikhs and CHristians in India support Jews and Israel.  But, like USA, India has been afflicted with liberal theology and islamic apologetics which must be removed before either of our countries can achieve freedom.
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« Reply #8 on: December 14, 2009, 12:49:03 AM »
Most of the Tamil so-called "Christians" support their Islamic brethren just like the Arab and Albanian so-called "Christians".  >:(

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« Reply #9 on: December 14, 2009, 01:21:41 AM »
The murky vested interests like leftist Hristians and their EuroCommunist institutions can be interested in anti-Jewish propaganda. This so because they take sides with muslamics on every possible occasions and forums against the righteous.   
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« Reply #10 on: December 14, 2009, 02:27:56 AM »
 :::D

I believe, that some young people take drugs and behave bad there. This is common in nearly all holiday locations where people from western countries travel in masses.

But that the "Jews" control the drug trade there and that they get the drugs from Pak, Kashmire or Afghanistan is for shure not true.

I have read, that Muslim extremists in Pak, Kashmire or Afghanistan controll the drug trade in their places and then they sell the drugs to the Quranimal miniority in India, who is overwhelmingly criminal, like we all know it in our own countries. Then the Muslims sell the drugs to the Indian or traveller youth in Goa or in other places in India.

This is the way it works around the whole world. Some people of developed western countries are mostly consuments of drugs, but the Muslim is always the producer and the distributor.
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« Reply #11 on: December 14, 2009, 02:51:54 AM »
The problem isn't Indian Christians.. The problem is the anti-semitic Catholic and Syrian Orhtodox churches that rule those areas..  Sad to say it, many catholics and orthodox christians still hate Jews, although there are many people in those faiths that support Israel.

I have met many Zionist, Pro-Israeli Christians in India.  Many come from Andhra Pradesh, Tamil Nadu, Kerala.     I have good Indian Christian friend, named "Israel".  There is great support for Israel by many Indian Christians.
the only pro-Zionist christians in India are Syrian Christians, but considering that they have Jewish Heritage themself (and were converted to Christianity during St. Thomas's mission in India). Also when I talk of Zionism, i mean it from Kahanist perspective. I seriously doubt how many Indian Christians would support Kahanist idea of Zionism. A thing to note, most of the Indian christian online news press support Messianic jews.
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« Reply #12 on: December 14, 2009, 02:59:48 AM »
Hindu Zionist, I do hope that you realize that these are traitor/fraud so-called Christians that have ruined Goa.
agreed. Infact i would add that, Christianity in India should not be compared to Christianity in the West. Indian Christians got a different culture. Specially those who are converts from deprived classes of Hindus. They have culture similar to the one of Black Churches. Yes, there are a few Tamils and Dalit-Christians who could be pro-Israel, but their numbers are small.. like how many Black Gentiles are out there really?

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« Reply #13 on: December 14, 2009, 03:29:15 AM »
I seriously doubt how many Indian Christians would support Kahanist idea of Zionism.
I think Kahanism is completely consistent with the New Testament.

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« Reply #14 on: December 14, 2009, 05:44:25 AM »
I seriously doubt how many Indian Christians would support Kahanist idea of Zionism.
I think Kahanism is completely consistent with the New Testament.

Surprising.... But how?
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Surprising.... But how?
What do you mean by "how"? I mean that the NT would completely support dealing with Israel's enemies as they should be.

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« Reply #16 on: December 15, 2009, 05:09:25 AM »
The problem isn't Indian Christians.. The problem is the anti-semitic Catholic and Syrian Orhtodox churches that rule those areas..  Sad to say it, many catholics and orthodox christians still hate Jews, although there are many people in those faiths that support Israel.

I have met many Zionist, Pro-Israeli Christians in India.  Many come from Andhra Pradesh, Tamil Nadu, Kerala.     I have good Indian Christian friend, named "Israel".  There is great support for Israel by many Indian Christians.

There are also hindus who hate Jews and Israel and support the muslims.  I have met them, myself and talked to them, so don't say they don't exist too! 

I know the majority of Hindus, Sikhs and CHristians in India support Jews and Israel.  But, like USA, India has been afflicted with liberal theology and islamic apologetics which must be removed before either of our countries can achieve freedom.
let me point out that, here it is not a question of are there some hindus/sikhs who are against Israel or some Christians against Israel. The important thing to ask is, are there religious-Hindus who are against Israel? There arent any. So is the question.. are there religious Christians who are against Israel? Yes there are.