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MARRIED COUPLES PAY MORE THAN UNMARRIED UNDER HEALTH BILL
« on: January 08, 2010, 02:46:56 PM »
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB126281943134818675.html


WASHINGTON -- Some married couples would pay thousands of dollars more for the same health insurance coverage as unmarried people living together, under the health insurance overhaul plan pending in Congress.

The built-in "marriage penalty" in both House and Senate healthcare bills has received scant attention. But for scores of low-income and middle-income couples, it could mean a hike of $2,000 or more in annual insurance premiums the moment they say "I do."

The disparity comes about in part because subsidies for purchasing health insurance under the plan from congressional Democrats are pegged to federal poverty guidelines. That has the effect of limiting subsidies for married couples with a combined income, compared to if the individuals are single.

People who get their health insurance through an employer wouldn't be affected. Only people that buy subsidized insurance through new exchanges set up by the legislation stand to be impacted. About 17 million people would receive such subsidies in 2016 under the House plan, the Congressional Budget Office estimates.

The bills cap the annual amount people making less than 400% of the federal poverty level must pay for health insurance premiums, ranging from 1.5% of income for the poorest to 11% at the top end, under the House plan.

For an unmarried couple with income of $25,000 each, combined premiums would be capped at $3,076 per year, under the House bill. If the couple gets married, with a combined income of $50,000, their annual premium cap jumps to $5,160 -- a "penalty" of $2,084. Those figures were included in a memo prepared by House Republican staff.

The disparity is slightly smaller in the Senate version of health-care legislation, chiefly because premium subsidies in the House bill are more targeted towards low-wage earners.

Under the Senate bill, a couple with $50,000 combined income would pay $3,450 in annual premiums if unmarried, and $5,100 if married -- a difference of $1,650.

Republicans say the effect on married couples whose combined income makes them ineligible for subsidies is even greater -- up to $5,000 or more -- but that is more difficult to measure because it includes assumptions about the price of insurance policies.

Democratic staff who helped to write the bill confirmed the existence of the penalty, but said it cannot be remedied without creating other inequities.

For instance, they said making the subsidies neutral towards marriage would lead to a married couple with only one bread-winner getting a more generous subsidy than a single parent at the same income-level.

"The Finance Committee, along with other committees in the Senate, took pains to craft the most equitable overall structure possible, and that's what we have here," said a Democratic Senate Finance Committee aide.

If the bill passes in its current form, it would be far from the first example of federal and social benefits creating incentives to remain single. Under current law, marriage can have a negative impact on a person's ability to claim the earned income tax credit and welfare benefits including food stamps.

In any progressive system of taxes or benefits, there are trade-offs between how well-targeted a subsidy is and how equitable it is, said Stacy Dickert-Conlin, an economics professor at Michigan State University.

"You might like to have it be progressive, equitable and marriage-neutral. But you have to decide what your goals are, because you can't accomplish all three," she said.

The marriage penalty in the health bill has not been a major focus of attack by Republican opponents of the bill, who are focusing on larger themes such as new taxes in the bill and growth in government spending.

But it has caught the attention of some conservative groups, who claim that the prospect of reduced subsidies will dissuade people from tying the knot.

"This seems to not only penalize the married, but also those who would have the most to gain from marriage -- the poor," said Jenny Tyree, an analyst at the Colorado-based Focus on the Family.

Ms. Dickert-Conlin said that isn't borne out by research in the area.

"Most of the literature says that people do not make decisions about whether or not to get married based on" government benefits, she said.

"You might see bigger effects on the timing -- someone choosing to get married in January, instead of December," she said.
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Re: MARRIED COUPLES PAY MORE THAN UNMARRIED UNDER HEALTH BILL
« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2010, 06:44:58 AM »
I can't think of one thing the government has ever put their hands on that has not in the long run turned into a stone around the American taxpayers neck. If passed this will just be another thing on that list. Sadly this will not be a stone but a noose. This medical plan bill will give the government almost total control over peoples financial and medical situations. In the end they will actually have the ability to decide if someone sticks around awhile longer or gets to meet their maker in short order. People who are paying high income tax now are going to be the hardest hit by this medical plan garbage.  About the only way anyone can avoid being cleaned out by our old Uncle Sam  is to have plenty of dependents. The underlying fact here is no need to be married just have the dependents. People with 5 or 6 or even more dependents do very nicely when they file their returns. Even people with little or no income get something from old uncle when they have many dependents. The shvartza President told Americans what he planned to do before they elected him to office so they have only themselves to blame for whats coming their way. After health care reform comes  immigration reform so brace up because the games have only started.
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Re: MARRIED COUPLES PAY MORE THAN UNMARRIED UNDER HEALTH BILL
« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2010, 03:46:36 AM »
There is not one single day in which Aliyah does not present itself to be more and more attractive.  103 weeks remaining until mine takes place.

I may look to a "Israeli-Indian-Russian-Colombian-and regime changed Venezuela all semi-in-league with China [as opposed to the US]" coalition to emerge as the American Empire faces [temporary] countenance.  I'm just a guesser.  IMO the most difficult to conceive difficulty to overcome would be the relationship of China and Chavez.  The EU will continue to become more Muslim, and Sharia will crush the last traces of Capitalism in Europe, and create a Eurabian 3rd world [the first to go the way of the Akkadians will be the Swedes.].

I do not study Australian politics as much as I could.  I do read a lot of science articles from that part of the world; if they are on top of science it stands to reason they may be succeeding elsewhere.  I do wonder what they are tied into.  But I have promised myself to watch at least 30 minutes of Rabbi Kahane tonight.
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Re: MARRIED COUPLES PAY MORE THAN UNMARRIED UNDER HEALTH BILL
« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2010, 08:56:03 PM »
There is not one single day in which Aliyah does not present itself to be more and more attractive.  103 weeks remaining until mine takes place.

I may look to a "Israeli-Indian-Russian-Colombian-and regime changed Venezuela all semi-in-league with China [as opposed to the US]" coalition to emerge as the American Empire faces [temporary] countenance.  I'm just a guesser.  IMO the most difficult to conceive difficulty to overcome would be the relationship of China and Chavez.  The EU will continue to become more Muslim, and Sharia will crush the last traces of Capitalism in Europe, and create a Eurabian 3rd world [the first to go the way of the Akkadians will be the Swedes.].

I do not study Australian politics as much as I could.  I do read a lot of science articles from that part of the world; if they are on top of science it stands to reason they may be succeeding elsewhere.  I do wonder what they are tied into.  But I have promised myself to watch at least 30 minutes of Rabbi Kahane tonight.

I don't know much about Austrial politics though I do love the Austrian school of economics.
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