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rhayat1:

--- Quote from: JTFenthusiast2 on January 27, 2010, 08:51:42 PM ---Rhayat,

Truly I am a live and let live kind of person, but your statements are at odds with one another.  You said you have no tolerance for nazis, but then in your previous post you state that because pro-white movements are marginalized that you do in fact, rub shoulders, with Holocaust deniers and members of StørmFrønt

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I shared the same building with Stormfronters - but never exchanged a word with them.  I also never exchanged a word with any holocaust denier.  I did, however, have a brief encounter with a holocaust revisionist.  There is a difference - though it may seem to you that they are one in the same.  It is simply not credible to me that the holocaust did not happen; I've known survivors, seen the numbers on their arms and heard their stories.  However, I see nothing wrong with challenging orthodoxy when it comes to the details of ANY historic event.  Personally, I haven't studied the holocaust for many years; I find it too painful and it gives me nightmares.  But right now, as I understand it, it is ILLEGAL to claim (in Germany) that less than six million Jews died during the holocaust.  I do not believe that the exact number - whether it was six million or five million or four million - detracts from the enormity of what happened.  I also do not believe that there is anything sacred about the number six million.  When I was a kid, they taught us that it was 5.5 million Jews who were murdered.  Furthermore, like any great tragedy, there are those who would profit from it, make political points or otherwise further their agenda.  I can understand how this might make some people upset - Jewish or gentile.  So, if a person believes he has a more accurate account of what transpired during those dark days, I say let him have his say and let's engage him politely.  If that person shows signs of hating Jews, well then that's a different matter altogether.  I have no reason to suspect that the person I spoke to harbors any ill feelings toward Jews.  If I found out otherwise, I'd stay away from him as I do the handful of Stormfronters who attended the conference.

JTFenthusiast2:
I understand your point of view.  But in an era of such rampant anti-semitism and holocaust denial, I think this is a slippery slope.  Is it any wonder that Holocaust deniers are booming only now when most of the survivors are deceased?  I think not.

rhayat1:

--- Quote from: JTFenthusiast2 on January 27, 2010, 09:18:58 PM ---I understand your point of view.  But in an era of such rampant anti-semitism and holocaust denial, I think this is a slippery slope.  Is it any wonder that Holocaust deniers are booming only now when most of the survivors are deceased?  I think not.

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I hear you and it burns me up too.  I do believe, however, that the best way to fight this battle is through rational discourse and education.  Not through threats, name-calling and intimidation - and certainly not through making martyrs of them as they do in Germany.  BTW, I'm pretty sure the worst holocaust denial is in the Arab world.  When I visited Egypt, I was in a book store and there displayed prominently for all to see, was a book titled "The Crimes of the Jews".

JTFenthusiast2:
I think you're absolutely correct there Rhayat.

IsraeliGovtAreKapos:
                                                                     בס"ד

Holocaust deniers are not acceptable and illigitimate. Today, it's a fact
that at least 6 million Jews were murdered in the Holocaust. Claiming that there
has been less is denying the facts and therefore obvious hatred and conspiracism.

If you're Jewish, you should not care about "white" rights. You should only
care about your own people. If your irrational love for Whites [which is
the same as irrational love for Blacks] makes you ally yourself with Nazis,
then you're free to leave our nation.

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