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Judaism: Forbidden art?
Kahane-Was-Right BT:
Look at the title of the thread. It's a query about Judaism. Not an opinion poll.
If you can't handle the fact that your opinion has no validity and is worth less than nothing in this context, that's too bad. Grow up, and keep the insults to yourself.
muman613:
--- Quote from: Bio-Electric Apprentice on February 08, 2010, 04:02:27 PM ---
--- Quote from: Kahane-Was-Right BT on February 07, 2010, 01:45:50 PM ---You instructed white israelite what to do after he asked a halachic question. What don't you understand? I don't need any counseling, and I would say you need your head examined, but I know you are being disingenuous. So cut the games and stop playing around. You know exactly what you did here, and you are trying to hide yourself and get all defensive as if I'm doing something wrong. What you have done in this thread is ridiculous. Completely over the line. There is no place for this here.
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This is an open forum so I will give my opinion as many times as I want. All you are doing is crying about a topic being side-tracked, when this is a normal phenomena on fora. You act like a saviour towards other Jews by trying to 'protect' them. All you do is insulting Jews by claiming they can't think for themselves. This forum is not strictly for Jews; if you have a problem with that, don't come here.
You can rant all you want about me not knowing anything about Judaism; I never claimed I did.
"You instructed white israelite", "you know exactly what you did here"
You are a demagogue. You accuse me of trying to make Jews believe they can make anything up and you accuse me of trying to mindrape Jews out of Judaism. You can study scriptures all you want; your mouth is filled with filth.
And before you start crying over mockery and attacks; this is a mere observation.
I rationalize a thesis and you simply are unable to point out any flaw in my 'speculation' and cannot argue against it.
When I point to the fact that rabbi's still argue about things I do not turn Judaism in a free-for-all. You are a demagogue
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--- Quote from: muman613 on February 01, 2010, 03:00:14 PM ---Bio, but the second commandment says not to make anything living, anything on earth and under the water....
I think that this interpretation is the 'strict' interpretation and I have seen more liberal interpretations even from Orthodox sources...
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You call having a different opinion 'attacking'. This is an attempt to 'hide' that you are a demagogue by pretending to be a crybaby.
Again you are a demagogue when you say I call your rabbi's statements 'idiotic'. Apparently you have a bit of a 'blind spot' when it comes to your own flaws with 'idiotic personal statements'.
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Bio,
I have been trying very hard to understand where you are coming from. I assume you are a neophyte when it comes to Judaism and as a result you should be in a mode where you are trying to learn, not insulting and denigrating a Torah Scholar like KWRBT.
As I said before... In Judaism we have a thing called Halacha, or Jewish Law... These laws are not made up as we go along, they have been decided upon by the great Sages of Judaism and written down over the course of history. These laws are compiled in tractates like the Talmud and in the Shulchan Aruch. These laws are not debatable, they are laws which are set in stone and are derived directly from our Torah and other scriptures.
So while you may be able to state what your opinion is, it is also true that all you are is stating your opinion. It seems to me you have a lot of contempt for the system of Jewish law. If I were you I would analyze where this hostility originates from, whether you are engaging in a form of antisemitism... I dont know if this comes from hatred on your part but I have observed that you are often a hostile and engaging forum member.
The Halacha concerning Images has been relayed to the JTF forum and according to several Rabbis I have consulted and the websites I have found KWRBTs explanation is the halacha. If you still think you are right, and you are not a Jew, then I say that a gentile cannot poskin Jewish law {as a matter of fact Jews will reject any law which gentiles bring down even if it is the same judgement a Jewish court would bring down}. If you are a Jew then I suggest you find a good Rabbi and explain why you hate your own religion as you do... I suspect you are not a Jew and as a result your opinion in this matter is completely irrelevant.
PS: It is the responsibility of all Jews to help ensure the spiritual purity of all Jews. The Torah commanded us to rebuke those Jews who don't follow the commandments... I don't think there is anything wrong with a Jew trying to teach fellow Jews the halachas which his Rabbi teaches.... As I said I have heard his Rabbi speak and I consider him a Torah Scholar.
AsheDina:
Well, I have a ton of dolls. I like dolls. I do nothing with them, they are just pretty and used in my boudoir for decor.
My heart and soul HATE evil. This, HaShem is happy with in my life.
I have NO image that is even remotely close to a 'g'od like statue, etc. NOTHING.
Lisa:
Guys, it looks like you've all had your say on this matter. So I think I'll lock this thread and move it to the Torah section.
Chaim Ben Pesach:
בס''ד
Bio and kwrbt, why are you fighting? Can't we have discussions here without being so hypersensitive?
kwrbt, Bio was not mocking Judaism. He was simply asking legitimate questions. I don't believe that his comment about being "all knowing" was intended to insult. He certainly is not a missionary.
Bio, kwrbt assumed that you were ridiculing Judaism and his rabbi's opinion. I know that you weren't doing that. But that's why he reacted the way he did. He misunderstood you.
Bio and kwrbt, you are both great people. This is all a big misunderstanding that led to personal attacks. Please forgive each other. And if I have said something here that offends, please forgive me as well.
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