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sarah Palin endorsed Rand Paul!
« on: February 01, 2010, 07:14:08 PM »
Does this change anybody's opinion of her?

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Re: sarah Palin endorsed Rand Paul!
« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2010, 07:17:44 PM »
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« Reply #2 on: February 01, 2010, 07:18:43 PM »
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Re: sarah Palin endorsed Rand Paul!
« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2010, 07:23:26 PM »
that certainly changes things...

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Re: sarah Palin endorsed Rand Paul!
« Reply #6 on: February 01, 2010, 07:27:49 PM »
That's too bad. It's also too bad that Dick Armey endorsed him. I thought Dick Armey was a good guy and a supporter of Israel. I guess it's impossible to trust an American politician.

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Re: sarah Palin endorsed Rand Paul!
« Reply #7 on: February 01, 2010, 07:45:35 PM »
But she wouldn't endorse J.D. Hayworth? What an idiot. I just lost all respect for her.

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Re: sarah Palin endorsed Rand Paul!
« Reply #8 on: February 01, 2010, 09:14:10 PM »
[censored] Palin.  Huckabee 2012.
"You must keep the arab under your boot or he will be at your throat" -Unknown

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Re: sarah Palin endorsed Rand Paul!
« Reply #9 on: February 01, 2010, 09:25:34 PM »
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You endorsed Rand "KKK" Paul, son of Ron "KKK" Paul?  I can no longer support you, nor will the rest of the Jewish community.  I will not vote for you for any office, and I am deleting your page from my Facebook.  Sarah "Ku Klux Klan" Palin?  The Rands are NOT a group you want to get into.  Ron Paul is the #1 white supremist vote, look it up.

He's also an idiot when it comes to the Fed.  Has he never noticed that Gold is regulated in the same fashion as the Fed? LOL.  A gold standard is un-needed/non-beneficial.

Do I vote MIKE HUCKABEE 2012?  I'd already do so because he endorses a ONE STATE solution for Israel.

So disappointing Sarah, so very disappointing.

I said my farewell before parting sweet company on FB.
"You must keep the arab under your boot or he will be at your throat" -Unknown

"When we tell the Arab, ‘Come, I want to help you and see to your needs,’ he doesn’t look at us like gentlemen. He sees weakness and then the wolf shows what he can do.” - Maimonides

 “I am all peace, but when I speak, they are for war.” -Psalms 120:7

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Re: sarah Palin endorsed Rand Paul!
« Reply #10 on: February 01, 2010, 10:37:27 PM »
Anyone who would endorse the Grand Mufti of the United States (or any family members of his) will be permanently disowned by me.

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Re: sarah Palin endorsed Rand Paul!
« Reply #11 on: February 02, 2010, 12:07:23 AM »
I know members here are going to argue with me on this, but this shouldnt change anyone's mind about Palin's love of Israel.

Palin (and maybe Huckabee) are THE most supportive candidates of Israel that I have seen.  That has never changed.  She has a flag of Israel in her office.  She is extremely righteous.   So don't go saying she is a closet Nazi.  By the way, there are tons of righteous people that support Paul, including Glen Beck who LOVES to have him on his show.

I personally hate Ron Paul, but his economic policies are becoming extremely popular with America... including the patriotic and the righteous. Right now, America wants populism.  They want an anti-Obama that refuses socialism/corp welfare/bailouts/Tarps/stimuli/etc and that is extremely fiscally right wing.  This is what 95% of Ron Paul supporters want (The other 5% are nazis).  Everytime I bring up StørmFrønt to these Ron Paul supporters, the first thing out of their mouth is... .What's StørmFrønt?  Many of the ones I know arent even white.  They just love Paul's Jeffersonian economic approach. 

Again, I hate Paul.  I hope he dies an awful death.  I'm just telling you that its imperative that the younger, righteous generation of conservatives understand that fiscal populism and nationalism have to be their focus, or they will lose to the Dems, or even worse, they will lose to an unholy unrighteous ideology that pretends to be conservative.


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Re: sarah Palin endorsed Rand Paul!
« Reply #12 on: February 02, 2010, 12:09:11 AM »
Everytime I bring up StørmFrønt to these Ron Paul supporters, the first thing out of their mouth is... .What's StørmFrønt?
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Re: sarah Palin endorsed Rand Paul!
« Reply #13 on: February 02, 2010, 12:30:53 AM »
It's crucial to defeat Rand Paul in this election.  It's sink or swim time for junior.  If he sinks we are free of Ron Paul when he dies, if not, we are stuck with a younger twin.

I think Palin would be a president who would turn a proper blind eye to a very quick relocation program for the Arabs [they want to leave!!!].  I wonder how quickly the bulk of the Arab squatters would take to move?  Perhaps when I join the IDF [G-d willing, part of Aliyah] I will be a mover, and a shaker. ;)
"You must keep the arab under your boot or he will be at your throat" -Unknown

"When we tell the Arab, ‘Come, I want to help you and see to your needs,’ he doesn’t look at us like gentlemen. He sees weakness and then the wolf shows what he can do.” - Maimonides

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Re: sarah Palin endorsed Rand Paul!
« Reply #14 on: February 02, 2010, 04:26:31 AM »
Very poor choice for palin. She didn't do her research on the guy and it simply shows her ignorance.

Palin still isn't a bad person, but because of this pick I know that she doesn't know any better and goes with the flow of the mainstream republican movement and doesn't pick and choose right from wrong. She is an establishment supporter. And that is what she needs to do in order to survive as a politician. I have lost respect for her due to this poor decision to support this Nazi, Rand Paul.
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Re: sarah Palin endorsed Rand Paul!
« Reply #15 on: February 02, 2010, 05:37:45 AM »
Interesting article about Paul                              http://elephantsinthebluegrass.blogspot.com/2010/01/can-rand-paul-connect-with-people-of.html   








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Can Rand Paul Connect With People of Faith?
Joe Arnold has linked up an interesting post from a Bill Johnson supporter who makes the case that Dr. Rand Paul's libertarian views must be rejected by Christian voters.

In fairness to Paul, the post neglects to note that unlike many libertarians, Paul opposes abortion.

Arnold's take is that the talk about Paul hiring Mike Saltsman (formerly of the Huckabee campaign) was intended to reach fundamentalist Christians.

Christians, of course, are not the only "values voters." A comment from a Paul supporter to this blog raises the question of whether Paul will be able to appeal to Jewish voters. "Nobody" writes:

If you want to see the reality of what is truly happening, go open your eyes and follow theAIPAC and the ADL which both organizations have been instrumental in controlling our media and information we receive to protect Israel as they massacre and admit to brutalizing millions of people in gestapo-like tactics that once were used against them by Hitler.

[AIPAC is the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, a pro-Israel lobby; ADL is the Anti-Defamation League, dedicated to fighting defamation of Jews.]

To be sure, a candidate cannot be held accountable for the views of follower -- though if the anti-Semitism of the commenter called "Nobody" is more than just a fluke, then Paul must disavow it.

What may give Jewish voters more pause about Paul is the sincerity and depth of his support of Israel. When I asked the campaign last Fall about U.S. support of Israel, I was told "Israel is a friend of America, he [Paul] supports all allies with the United States." It is hard to know if the shallowness of that response reflects a lack of enthusiasm or a lack of reflection. It is not exactly a pledge to go to the mat for Israel. That may appeal to some Paul supporters, but may make it difficult to reach out to voters who care about Israel -- that includes Christian as well as Jewish voters.

The dilemma for Paul is that if he shows too much enthusiasm for supporting Israel, he will alienate some of the libertarian voters -- like "Nobody"-- who see Jewish conspiracies everywhere. If Paul does not show enough supporters for Israel, he risks alienating not only Jewish and Christian voters but anyone who recognizes that Israel is one of our closest allies, an important source of intelligence and the only democracy in the region.

For Paul, the issue of support for Israel dovetails into the issue of how to keep America safe in the age of terrorism without losing our civil liberties.

Trey Grayson, in contrast, has visited Israel twice and has written about it extensively. In fact, Grayson traveled with AIPAC. He is unequivocal about his support for Israel. Unlike Paul, Treyson does not have to finesse the issue.
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Re: sarah Palin endorsed Rand Paul!
« Reply #16 on: February 02, 2010, 06:20:41 AM »
Rand paul supported releasing all terrorists back to their countries or the battlefield                 








Rand Paul vs. Himself
Posted: Thursday, November 19th Filed in: Press Releases

Florence, Kentucky—

Rand Paul proved today at the Kentucky Association of Counties forum that he is practiced in the Washington art of flip-flopping when he could not provide a straight answer on the issue of protecting America's national security.

Rand Paul has previously endorsed the Obama Administration policy of bringing the most dangerous terrorists on Earth to U.S. soil, including alleged 9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and several co-conspirators. Paul and Obama want to close the $200 million detention facility at Guantanamo Bay and prosecute these terrorists in civilian courts.

"While he had difficulty providing a straight answer today, Paul's previous remarks supporting the Obama policy of closing Guantanamo and bringing the world's most dangerous terrorists to the U.S. have been as consistent as they are misguided," said Grayson campaign manager Nate Hodson.

Rand Paul on terrorist detainees:

    " ... it's kind of unclear whether these people are guilty, not guilty ... So I really think deportation or sending them back to their country of origin might be the best way to go. And none of it's fair, because some of them have been held years and years ..." - Alex Jones Show, 5/21/09.

    Rand Paul "couldn't agree more" with those who believe Guantanamo has "significantly damaged the reputation of the United States" and who want to "see it shut down." - Rand Paul website post, 5/25/09.

    "I think they should mostly be sent back to their country of origin or to tell you the truth I'd drop them back off into battle ... you're unclear, drop 'em off back into Afghanistan. It'd take them a while to get back over here." - YouTube video of Rand Paul speaking in Paducah, KY, 5/8/09.

Trey Grayson's petition opposing that policy has garnered 2,000 signatures after just one day.

    "Our nation is at war," Grayson said. "We should never release our enemies back onto the battlefield to kill more Americans. We should try them in military tribunals outside the United States, and Guantanamo is the perfect place for that. We've spent $200 million building a facility to safely house these terrorists outside our borders and try them using military commissions that will protect their rights while keeping Americans safe."

Read the petition, the latest news on this topic and learn more about what other conservatives are saying at www.TreyGrayson.com/gitmo.





http://www.treygrayson.com/news/post/rand-paul-vs.-himself
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Re: sarah Palin endorsed Rand Paul!
« Reply #17 on: February 02, 2010, 06:57:41 AM »
First let me say that as someone who has been one of Sarah Palin's ardent supporters,  I agree with those who said that Sarah Palin made a bad decision in endorsing Rand Paul.     Regardless of what her reasoning was and/  or who she seeked advice from,    she made a huge mistake in judgment.       In the coming days or weeks,    she needs to be asked on FOX why she made this decision.    


One thing that's evident is that Sarah Palin is going across the Republican Party spectrum with her endorsements and contributions from SarahPAC.      She's supporting John McCain,   Lindsey Graham,  and Rick Perry,    all considered RINO's by many Republicans.    However,   she's also supported Conservative Candidate Doug Hoffman in the House District 23 race this past November.    As well as she's supporting Tom Rooney, Tom Coburn, Marsha Blackburn, Rob Portman, John Thune, Richard Burr, Michelle Bachmann, Orrin Hatch, Chuck Grassley, Jim DeMint, Roy Blunt, Bob McDonnell and John Kasich.       At the very least,   the vast majority of these people are considered Conservative Republicans,    not Libertarians or RINO's.  


It's very possible that Sarah Palin is trying to unite the different factions of the Republican Party and the Tea Party Movement.     In recent weeks,   I discovered that not only is the Republican Party heavily divided,    the Tea Party Movement has multiple components.     In a way,   it reminds me of the Israeli political world with MANY different parties,   each having different objectives.      


There's one other aspect of the situation that has jumped out.     Trey Grayson is not running a good campaign.    It feels somewhat like he's the Republican version of Martha Coakley,   in that he's turning victory into defeat.  

If you have time,   do a web search on Trey Grayson in terms of looking for sites that truly passionately support him.        Unless I inadvertently overlooked them,    I found VERY few.     And that's stretching it!     On the other hand,   the passion for Rand Paul is evident on the Internet,    much like it is for his evil father.        The truth of the matter is while Bill Johnson is being overlooked by many,   if not most  in this race for the Republican Senate Nomination for Kentucky,    Bill Johnson has more passionate support than Trey Grayson.     Chaim mentioned in the " Ask JTF" question that he answered in the show before the most recent one that Bill Johnson's poll numbers are only around 2 %.    That could well be the reality of the situation.     Yet,   one independent poll from December said Bill Johnson is at 17 %:


http://genuinegopmom.blogspot.com/2009/12/new-poll-expected-to-show-bill-johnson.html


To be candid,   I agree with Chaim in that the situation for Bill Johnson isn't promising at all.      He has far less money available at this time and he's viewed as a distant 3rd in the race by many.     This COULD be why Sarah Palin elected not to endorse Bill Johnson,   who is the true Conservative in this race.   ( Of course Sarah Palin should have NOT made an endorsement if she felt Bill Johnson couldn't win and that Trey Grayson is too liberal.  )    Among other positions,    Bill Johnson believes in a one state solution,   with Israel's biblical boundaries as its land.      


Unfortunately,   Trey Grayson has major baggage,   as he was a Bill Clinton Delegate back in 1992.      The Rand Paul supporters are making sure this and other baggage on Grayson is well known.


As much as I want to be optimistic about the Senate Race in Kentucky,    right now the situation to defeat Rand Paul doesn't look promising.    Of course things could change,   as Rand Paul has a multitude of baggage.      But looking at the situation objectively at present,    I think its a major uphill battle to defeat him in the Republican Primary.      

    
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Re: sarah Palin endorsed Rand Paul!
« Reply #18 on: February 02, 2010, 07:04:20 AM »
mord,   thanks for posting the articles.


The 2nd article reflects a major part of the problem for Trey Grayson.     The info is coming from HIS website,   not from supporters websites.       At best,   Trey Grayson's support is luke warm.       The establishment of the Republican Party in Kentucky made a substantial mistake by not supporting Bill Johnson in this race.     
"Israel's leaders seem to be more afraid of Obama than they are of G-d. Now we're getting to the real root of the problem. Secular politics won't save Israel. Denying the divine nature of the Jewish State has brought Israel neither stability nor peace. When that changes Israel will finally be blessed with both in abundance"-----------NormanF   ( Posted on Israel Matzav's Blog )

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« Reply #19 on: February 02, 2010, 07:05:38 AM »
First let me say that as someone who has been one of Sarah Palin's ardent supporters,  I agree with those who said that Sarah Palin made a bad decision in endorsing Rand Paul.     Regardless of what her reasoning was and/  or who she seeked advice from,    she made a huge mistake in judgment.       In the coming days or weeks,    she needs to be asked on FOX why she made this decision.    


One thing that's evident is that Sarah Palin is going across the Republican Party spectrum with her endorsements and contributions from SarahPAC.      She's supporting John McCain,   Lindsey Graham,  and Rick Perry,    all considered RINO's by many Republicans.    However,   she's also supported Conservative Candidate Doug Hoffman in the House District 23 race this past November.    As well as she's supporting Tom Rooney, Tom Coburn, Marsha Blackburn, Rob Portman, John Thune, Richard Burr, Michelle Bachmann, Orrin Hatch, Chuck Grassley, Jim DeMint, Roy Blunt, Bob McDonnell and John Kasich.       At the very least,   the vast majority of these people are considered Conservative Republicans,    not Libertarians or RINO's.  


It's very possible that Sarah Palin is trying to unite the different factions of the Republican Party and the Tea Party Movement.     In recent weeks,   I discovered that not only is the Republican Party heavily divided,    the Tea Party Movement has multiple components.     In a way,   it reminds me of the Israeli political world with MANY different parties,   each having different objectives.      


There's one other aspect of the situation that has jumped out.     Trey Grayson is not running a good campaign.    It feels somewhat like he's the Republican version of Martha Coakley,   in that he's turning victory into defeat.  

If you have time,   do a web search on Trey Grayson in terms of looking for sites that truly passionately support him.        Unless I inadvertently overlooked them,    I found VERY few.     And that's stretching it!     On the other hand,   the passion for Rand Paul is evident on the Internet,    much like it is for his evil father.        The truth of the matter is while Bill Johnson is being overlooked by many,   if not most  in this race for the Republican Senate Nomination for Kentucky,    Bill Johnson has more passionate support than Trey Grayson.     Chaim mentioned in the " Ask JTF" question that he answered in the show before the most recent one that Bill Johnson's poll numbers are only around 2 %.    That could well be the reality of the situation.     Yet,   one independent poll from December said Bill Johnson is at 17 %:


http://genuinegopmom.blogspot.com/2009/12/new-poll-expected-to-show-bill-johnson.html


To be candid,   I agree with Chaim in that the situation for Bill Johnson isn't promising at all.      He has far less money available at this time and he's viewed as a distant 3rd in the race by many.     This COULD be why Sarah Palin elected not to endorse Bill Johnson,   who is the true Conservative in this race.   ( Of course Sarah Palin should have NOT made an endorsement if she felt Bill Johnson couldn't win and that Trey Grayson is too liberal.  )    Among other positions,    Bill Johnson believes in a one state solution,   with Israel's biblical boundaries as its land.      


Unfortunately,   Trey Grayson has major baggage,   as he was a Bill Clinton Delegate back in 1992.      The Rand Paul supporters are making sure this and other baggage on Grayson is well known.


As much as I want to be optimistic about the Senate Race in Kentucky,    right now the situation to defeat Rand Paul doesn't look promising.    Of course things could change,   as Rand Paul has a multitude of baggage.      But looking at the situation objectively at present,    I think its a major uphill battle to defeat him in the Republican Primary.      

    
True but some are pretty Liberal.Speaking of names mentioned i think  John Thune would make a great Candidate
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Re: sarah Palin endorsed Rand Paul!
« Reply #20 on: February 02, 2010, 07:12:10 AM »
mord,   off the top of my head,    the people I believe are True Conservatives  (  by today's standards )  on that list are Doug Hoffman,   Tom Coburn,   Marsha Blackburn,   John Thune  (  who you mentioned as well ),     Michelle Bachmann,     Jim DeMint,   Roy Blunt ,  and Bob McDonnell.     With Orrin Hatch closer to a True Conservative than a RINO.       I'm not familar enough with the others on the list to offer an opinion at this time.     Of course as always,   input from everyone is welcome.
"Israel's leaders seem to be more afraid of Obama than they are of G-d. Now we're getting to the real root of the problem. Secular politics won't save Israel. Denying the divine nature of the Jewish State has brought Israel neither stability nor peace. When that changes Israel will finally be blessed with both in abundance"-----------NormanF   ( Posted on Israel Matzav's Blog )

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Re: sarah Palin endorsed Rand Paul!
« Reply #21 on: February 02, 2010, 07:17:09 AM »
mord,   off the top of my head,    the people I believe are True Conservatives  (  by today's standards )  on that list are Doug Hoffman,   Tom Coburn,   Marsha Blackburn,   John Thune  (  who you mentioned as well ),     Michelle Bachmann,     Jim DeMint,   Roy Blunt ,  and Bob McDonnell.     With Orrin Hatch closer to a True Conservative than a RINO.       I'm not familar enough with the others on the list to offer an opinion at this time.     Of course as always,   input from everyone is welcome.
Chuck Grassely tends to be to cooperative with dems Lindsey Graham is great on Israel but a little to liberal for me.Orrin Hatch very mercurial but also borderline rino
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Re: sarah Palin endorsed Rand Paul!
« Reply #22 on: February 02, 2010, 08:17:44 AM »
Again, I hate Paul.  I hope he dies an awful death.  I'm just telling you that its imperative that the younger, righteous generation of conservatives understand that fiscal populism and nationalism have to be their focus, or they will lose to the Dems, or even worse, they will lose to an unholy unrighteous ideology that pretends to be conservative.

I agree with you.

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Re: sarah Palin endorsed Rand Paul!
« Reply #23 on: February 02, 2010, 12:32:34 PM »
As far as I'm concerned, any chance of Palin becoming President of the USA effectively vanished when she resigned from the Governorship of Alaska.

I think it's highly doubtful that she will ever hold high political office again.

She'll still be influential as a TV commentator/analyst and author. She's attractive and has blue collar appeal and can be an effective organizer. But it's very unlikely she'll make a serious run for the Presidency.

Palin's celebrity status enables her to help shape the political landscape and she can be an asset to the conservative movement.

I'll be very interested to hear more detailed comments regarding Israel from Palin.

It's unfortunate she endorsed Paul. She could have easily said she liked aspects of Paul's economic policy but distanced herself from his foreign policy.