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British and American Courts Threaten Jews’ Independence
« on: February 09, 2010, 01:43:14 PM »
Now gentiles deciding who is Jewish and who is not. This is the outcome of the liberal socialist religion.

British and American Courts Threaten Jews’ Independence
Shevat 25, 5770, 09 February 10 04:04
by Tzvi Ben Gedalyahu

(Israelnationalnews.com) Orthodox Jews in Britain and the United States fear that recent court cases are taking away their right to define who is Jewish and will destroy Jewish identity. Despite a recent British ruling against a Jewish school deciding who may enroll, the courts have allowed Muslim “Sharia” courts to act independent of British law.

The British Court of Appeals in December overturned a lower court decision and ruled that a Jewish school violated the British Race Relations Act by not accepting a child whose mother did not convert according to Jewish law. The judges in effect took over the power from religious authorities to define who is a Jew.

Britain’s Chief Rabbi Jonathan Sacks, wrote in the London Jewish Chronicle, ”Any discrimination, regardless of motive, between Jew and non-Jew, unless specifically exempted by law, has now been held to contravene the 1976 Race Relations Act.” 

On the Chief Rabbi's website (chiefrabbi.org), he wrote: "You do not have to be an expert in jurisprudence to realise that, as one of the judges put it, the court’s decision “leads to such extraordinary results, and produces such manifest discrimination against Jewish schools in comparison with other faith schools, that one can’t help feeling that something has gone wrong.”

He added, “We must now work with Parliament and the Equality and Human Rights Commission to do what several of the judges advise, namely to seek legislative remedy. In doing so we will find support from across the political community. We must proceed together as a community, using the principle that 'on matters that affect us regardless of our religious differences, we will work together regardless of our religious differences.'”   

While non-orthodox leaders praised the ruling, David Frei, registrar at the London Beth Din, told TotallyJewish.com  that non-Orthodox movements are a "deviation from authentic Judaism". He added, "There is no such thing as more Jewish, any more than there is any such thing as more British. You are either Jewish or you are not. In the eyes of Orthodoxy, there is no more point in a non-Orthodox convert keeping mitzvot than there is for the pope to do so. Neither is considered to be Jewish."

In the United States, the National Council of Young Israel (YI)  has filed a legal brief in the United States Supreme Court on behalf of a coalition of minority religious groups - including Jews, Muslims, Sikhs, and African American and Hispanic Christians - to defend the right of religious organizations to remain autonomous and to choose their members and leaders.

The case involves Hastings, a state-run law school located in San Francisco, California, which banned an organization called the Christian Legal Society (CLS) from the list of officially recognized student groups on campus.

According to Hastings, CLS violates the school's policy against discrimination on the basis of religion because CLS requires its leaders and voting members to be practicing Christians who abstain from intimacy outside of marriage.

"Should the Supreme Court choose to rule for Hastings, Jewish organizations, such as the National Council of Young Israel, may well be subject to claims of religious discrimination for refusing to let non-Jews into our leadership and membership, which could allow them to modify our core mission," said Young Israel President Shlomo Z. Mostofsky.

He warned that if the courts back Hastings, “It will not be long before the Young Israel Movement will be forced to change its name to Young Atheist or Young Evangelical, and other Orthodox Jewish organizations will lose their identification as well. It is hard to imagine a legal rule that will be more destructive to Torah Judaism in the United States."

The U.S. Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit ruled in favor of Hastings. In what promises to be one of the biggest religious liberty cases affecting the Jewish community in decades, the Supreme Court will likely hear oral arguments in the spring.

Source: http://www.israelnationalnews.com/SendMail.aspx?print=print&type=0&item=135934
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Re: British and American Courts Threaten Jews’ Independence
« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2010, 01:46:29 PM »
What the hell are The Jewish People doing in that Mussy infested dump anyway? {England not America}
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Re: British and American Courts Threaten Jews’ Independence
« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2010, 01:48:30 PM »
These traitor Jews and Christians who make up these insane courts should be banned from making decisions.It's not gentiles it's atheistic Jews and Atheistic Christians causing this trouble for everyone
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Re: British and American Courts Threaten Jews’ Independence
« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2010, 01:56:14 PM »
I read about this this morning and it made me sick... It never ceases to amaze me how the anti-religious are trying to destroy our ability to practice the Jewish religion. Thoughout history they have come up with laws and edicts in an attempt to outlaw true Torah Judaism. This is another form of institutional antisemitism. The laws concerning who is a Jew are well established. The secular court and non-religious 'Jews' cannot simply legislate what is right and wrong... The Torah is truth and all those who rebel against it will suffer.

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Re: British and American Courts Threaten Jews’ Independence
« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2010, 02:02:41 PM »
Maybe it's a message of G-d to those religious Jews who believe the exile can be a safe haven. I hope those Jews will return to the Land of Israel before it is too late..
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Re: British and American Courts Threaten Jews’ Independence
« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2010, 02:16:39 PM »
When they outlaw Milah {Circumcision} that will be the final straw... The Greeks attempted to outlaw circumcision during the Hellenistic period of Israels history... America must make a choice, be a righteous nation before G-d or suffer the consequences of disobedience through devastation.
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Re: British and American Courts Threaten Jews’ Independence
« Reply #6 on: February 09, 2010, 02:59:14 PM »
These traitor Jews and Christians who make up these insane courts should be banned from making decisions.It's not gentiles it's atheistic Jews and Atheistic Christians causing this trouble for everyone

In fact you are right. The two groups you are mention are indeed responsible for this disgrace.
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