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A Jew is granted freedom of speech in Israel - How strange!?!
« on: February 11, 2010, 03:34:39 PM »
We all hear the horror stories about how arabs in Israel are allowed to call for the death of Jews openly and without shame. The Jews in the government allow them to incite all kinds of violence against the religious Jews in Jerusalem and in Judea and Samaria... But Heaven Fofend a Jew should say something mean about an arab and WHAMMO that Jew is locked up, sued, and intimidated into recanting what they said. I have heard you can get locked up in Israel for wearing a JTF hat or T-shirt or saying "No arabs, no terror.."

This story indicates that sometimes the poor Jew wins out over the Goliath of a court in Israel...



http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/135981

Court: Lauding Baruch Goldstein is Not Incitement
Shevat 27, 5770, 11 February 10 10:40
by Gil Ronen

(Israelnationalnews.com) The Jerusalem District Court ruled Thursday that statements praising Dr. Baruch Goldstein, who murdered 29 Muslims in Hevron in 1994, do not constitute incitement to violence, Haaretz reported.

In so ruling, the court upheld an earlier Magistrates' Court decision in the case, which ruled that the statements in question, by nationalist activist Michael Ben Chorin, do not constitute incitement.

According to the charge sheet, Ben Chorin praised Goldstein in television report that was taped in the course of the Purim celebration in Kiryat Arba in 2003. He said, among other things, about Goldstein: “We remember him favorably... forever, such a great and righteous man. We see how far ahead of his time he was, and that he saw that the Oslo Accords would lead to a great murder... he prevented a massacre of the Jews of Hevron, avenged the blood of Rabbi Kahane and saved the community of Hevron from a great massacre.” 

Ben Chorin was charged with incitement. When the Magistrates' Court acquitted him, the State Prosecution appealed the decision, and the case came before District Court Judges Yitzchak Inbar, Yosef Shapira and Nava Ben-Or. The panel determined “there is no doubt that the statements constitute praise or identification with the acts of violence and terror that Baruch Goldstein perpetrated." However, it added, "it appears that Ben Chorin's statements – harsh, grave and revolting as they may be, represent his personal opinion, and it is doubtful that in themselves, they contain actual potential for carrying out a violent act.”

Ben Chorin was represented by Attorney Vadim Shuv of the Jerusalem District Public Defender's Office.
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Re: A Jew is granted freedom of speech in Israel - How strange!?!
« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2010, 03:37:33 PM »
The double standard of freedom of speech is sickening in Israel. Daily the arabs are incited to violence by their very own government and media outlets who daily broadcast information making blood libel against Jews, citing Koran that killing Jews is the duty of the religious muslim, etc... And this is all covered under the blanket of freedom of speech... But if a Jew praises a great martyr like Baruch Goldstein the liberal kapos in Israel go apeshit...

Hamas and Hezbollah openly call their militants heros and martyrs....
You shall make yourself the Festival of Sukkoth for seven days, when you gather in [the produce] from your threshing floor and your vat.And you shall rejoice in your Festival-you, and your son, and your daughter, and your manservant, and your maidservant, and the Levite, and the stranger, and the orphan, and the widow, who are within your cities
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Re: A Jew is granted freedom of speech in Israel - How strange!?!
« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2010, 03:38:30 PM »
We all hear the horror stories about how arabs in Israel are allowed to call for the death of Jews openly and without shame. The Jews in the government allow them to incite all kinds of violence against the religious Jews in Jerusalem and in Judea and Samaria... But Heaven Fofend a Jew should say something mean about an arab and WHAMMO that Jew is locked up, sued, and intimidated into recanting what they said. I have heard you can get locked up in Israel for wearing a JTF hat or T-shirt or saying "No arabs, no terror.."

This story indicates that sometimes the poor Jew wins out over the Goliath of a court in Israel...



http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/135981

Court: Lauding Baruch Goldstein is Not Incitement
Shevat 27, 5770, 11 February 10 10:40
by Gil Ronen

(Israelnationalnews.com) The Jerusalem District Court ruled Thursday that statements praising Dr. Baruch Goldstein, who murdered 29 Muslims in Hevron in 1994, do not constitute incitement to violence, Haaretz reported.

In so ruling, the court upheld an earlier Magistrates' Court decision in the case, which ruled that the statements in question, by nationalist activist Michael Ben Chorin, do not constitute incitement.

According to the charge sheet, Ben Chorin praised Goldstein in television report that was taped in the course of the Purim celebration in Kiryat Arba in 2003. He said, among other things, about Goldstein: “We remember him favorably... forever, such a great and righteous man. We see how far ahead of his time he was, and that he saw that the Oslo Accords would lead to a great murder... he prevented a massacre of the Jews of Hevron, avenged the blood of Rabbi Kahane and saved the community of Hevron from a great massacre.” 

Ben Chorin was charged with incitement. When the Magistrates' Court acquitted him, the State Prosecution appealed the decision, and the case came before District Court Judges Yitzchak Inbar, Yosef Shapira and Nava Ben-Or. The panel determined “there is no doubt that the statements constitute praise or identification with the acts of violence and terror that Baruch Goldstein perpetrated." However, it added, "it appears that Ben Chorin's statements – harsh, grave and revolting as they may be, represent his personal opinion, and it is doubtful that in themselves, they contain actual potential for carrying out a violent act.”

Ben Chorin was represented by Attorney Vadim Shuv of the Jerusalem District Public Defender's Office.


There's a special place in hell for the attorneys prosecuting this.  >:(
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Re: A Jew is granted freedom of speech in Israel - How strange!?!
« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2010, 06:24:36 PM »
Whaaaaa?!?? Are you sure about the JTF hats and shirts??? I'm planing to move to Israel soon..... and I might change my plans...

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Re: A Jew is granted freedom of speech in Israel - How strange!?!
« Reply #4 on: February 11, 2010, 06:27:00 PM »
Freedom of Speech my tucas. What about saying to deport the Arabs???
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Re: A Jew is granted freedom of speech in Israel - How strange!?!
« Reply #5 on: February 11, 2010, 06:47:21 PM »
About damn time.