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Benjamin Disraeli wrote well about the importance of the racial question and why the Jews are inherently on the side of conservatism:

“The political equality of a particular race is a matter of municipal arrangement, and depends entirely on political considerations and circumstances; but the natural equality of man now in vogue, and taking the form of cosmopolitan fraternity, is a principle which, were it possible to act on it, would deteriorate the great races and destroy all the genius of the world.

What would be the consequence on the great Anglo-Saxon republic, for example, were its citizens to secede from their sound principle of reserve, and mingle with their negro and coloured populations? In the course of time they would become so deteriorated that their states would probably be reconquered and regained by the aborigines whom they have expelled, and who would then be their superiors. But though nature will never ultimately permit this theory of natural equality to be practised, the preaching of this dogma
has already caused much mischief, and may occasion much more.

The native tendency of the Jewish race, who are justly proud of their blood, is against the doctrine of the equality of man. They have also another characteristic, the faculty of acquisition. Although the European laws have endeavoured to prevent their obtaining property, they have nevertheless become remarkable for their accumulated wealth. Thus it will be seen that all the tendencies of the Jewish race are conservative. Their bias is to religion, property, and natural aristocracy: and it should be the interest of statesmen that this bias of a great race should be encouraged, and their energies and creative powers enlisted in the cause of existing society.”

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Benjamin Disraeli wrote well about the importance of the racial question and why the Jews are inherently on the side of conservatism:

“The political equality of a particular race is a matter of municipal arrangement, and depends entirely on political considerations and circumstances; but the natural equality of man now in vogue, and taking the form of cosmopolitan fraternity, is a principle which, were it possible to act on it, would deteriorate the great races and destroy all the genius of the world.

What would be the consequence on the great Anglo-Saxon republic, for example, were its citizens to secede from their sound principle of reserve, and mingle with their negro and coloured populations? In the course of time they would become so deteriorated that their states would probably be reconquered and regained by the aborigines whom they have expelled, and who would then be their superiors. But though nature will never ultimately permit this theory of natural equality to be practised, the preaching of this dogma
has already caused much mischief, and may occasion much more.

The native tendency of the Jewish race, who are justly proud of their blood, is against the doctrine of the equality of man. They have also another characteristic, the faculty of acquisition. Although the European laws have endeavoured to prevent their obtaining property, they have nevertheless become remarkable for their accumulated wealth. Thus it will be seen that all the tendencies of the Jewish race are conservative. Their bias is to religion, property, and natural aristocracy: and it should be the interest of statesmen that this bias of a great race should be encouraged, and their energies and creative powers enlisted in the cause of existing society.”

http://www.gutenberg.org/files/20007/20007-8.txt


Jews are not race, because anyone can be Jewish. The Jewish people are mostly Caucasiod, some such as the Ashkenazis have adopted alot of European blood, well those of Shepardic blood still have their Semitic looks. What you posted was posted on WN anti-Semitic organization to prove that Jews are racist. We don't even hate Blacks because of their skin color, many of us Shepardics are dark skined, but what we hate is their actions.

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Jews are not race, because anyone can be Jewish.
Do you realize how ridiculous that statement is?

Race is a group of people who share common ancestry. E.g. Ashkenazi Jews are the sons of Ashkenaz who is also the ancestor of Germanic and Scandinavian peoples. Together with other Jews they form the Jewish people which historically entirely belongs to the White race.

An anthropological description of the Jewish people:
http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/view.jsp?artid=1573&letter=A
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The Jewish people are mostly Caucasiod, some such as the Ashkenazis have adopted alot of European blood, well those of Shepardic blood still have their Semitic looks.

Sephardic Jews are of partly Spanish ancestry and that is the only reason they are darker than the Ashkenazis of partly German ancestry. 
 
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What you posted was posted on WN anti-Semitic organization to prove that Jews are racist.
Where?

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We don't even hate Blacks because of their skin color, many of us Shepardics are dark skined, but what we hate is their actions.
Your opinion.

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Jews are not race, because anyone can be Jewish.
Do you realize how ridiculous that statement is?

Race is a group of people who share common ancestry. E.g. Ashkenazi Jews are the sons of Ashkenaz who is also the ancestor of Germanic and Scandinavian peoples. Together with other Jews they form the Jewish people which historically entirely belongs to the White race.

An anthropological description of the Jewish people:
http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/view.jsp?artid=1573&letter=A
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Shepardics look like Arabs, i like said "White" is an objective term.Also many of the Mizrachi Jews are dark skined like East Indians, look at them. please, we are Caucasiod, but not in the term White.

The Jewish people are mostly Caucasiod, some such as the Ashkenazis have adopted alot of European blood, well those of Shepardic blood still have their Semitic looks.

Sephardic Jews are of partly Spanish ancestry and that is the only reason they are darker than the Ashkenazis of partly German ancestry. 
 
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What you posted was posted on WN anti-Semitic organization to prove that Jews are racist.
Where?

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We don't even hate Blacks because of their skin color, many of us Shepardics are dark skined, but what we hate is their actions.
Your opinion.

« Last Edit: May 13, 2007, 12:14:17 AM by Yacov Menashe Ben Rachamim »

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Shepardics look like Arabs, i like said "White" is an objective term.Also many of the Mizrachi Jews are dark skined like East Indians, look at them. please, we are Caucasiod, but not in the term White.

Honestly, who has trouble distinguishing a Sephardic Jew from an Arab?

Some notable Sephardic Jews:

Benjamin Disraeli -- the Prime Minister of Great Britain
Judah Benjamin -- the Secretary of State of the Confederate States of America

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Shepardics look like Arabs, i like said "White" is an objective term.Also many of the Mizrachi Jews are dark skined like East Indians, look at them. please, we are Caucasiod, but not in the term White.

Honestly, who has trouble distinguishing a Sephardic Jew from an Arab?

Some notable Sephardic Jews:

Benjamin Disraeli -- the Prime Minister of Great Britain
Judah Benjamin -- the Secretary of State of the Confederate States of America

They mixed with Iberians, and Anglos of course they will look different. Mizhari Jews are not mixed they have kept their bloodline pure, we might have minor admixtures. We the Mizharis are the best example of the Jewish phenotype.

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You know all the 12 tribes did not look alike i forgot where in the tanach it explains the differences one tribe was describe as light haired and light skinned
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They mixed with Iberians, and Anglos of course they will look different. Mizrachi Jews are not mixed they have kept their bloodline pure, we might have minor admixtures. We the Mizrachim are the best example of the Jewish phenotype.
Hardly. The Samaritans are actually the best example of what the Jews looked like in 1000 BC since they have avoided intermarriage with other inhabitants of Middle East at all costs. The incidence of blondism among them is 25%.

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They mixed with Iberians, and Anglos of course they will look different. Mizrachi Jews are not mixed they have kept their bloodline pure, we might have minor admixtures. We the Mizrachim are the best example of the Jewish phenotype.
Hardly. The Samaritans are actually the best example of what the Jews looked like in 1000 B.C.E. since they have avoided intermarriage with other inhabitants of Middle East at all costs. The incidence of blondism among them is 25%.

 Blondism means nothing it occurs within the Australiod race!, i go by bone structure, their bone structure is alien to Europe. Ethinc Arabs have blondism to it occurs among Syrians and Sunni Iraqis often, but their bone structure is not Nordic,Alpine, or Med, but rather an Orintealid strain, i will show you an example of this

not the Girl in the Middle she has an Orintealid look, not European. Arabs and Mizhari Jews are genticaly identical, although because of mutal hatered between the two groups, they won't admit it.


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Large exmaple note the bone structure is different, this is Sunni Iraqi girl, her sub-race Arabid


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Hardly. The Samaritans are actually the best example of what the Jews looked like in 1000 B.C.E. since they have avoided intermarriage with other inhabitants of Middle East at all costs. The incidence of blondism among them is 25%.
It says in second Kings very clearly that Babylonians and Cuthim were settled in Samaria in place of the Israelites so they certainly cannot be relied upon to show what Jews used to look like. Babylonians, maybe. But not Jews.
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even so they don't look europeans at all but like Arabs blondism is nothing it occurs in Australiod and all Cacuasiod races. Bone structure what define race,and its alien to Europeans because their Orintealid Caucasiods, but most Samartians are dark skined, Mizarachi is the best example of how they looked like!

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Jews are not race, because anyone can be Jewish.
Do you realize how ridiculous that statement is?

Race is a group of people who share common ancestry. E.g. Ashkenazi Jews are the sons of Ashkenaz who is also the ancestor of Germanic and Scandinavian peoples. Together with other Jews they form the Jewish people which historically entirely belongs to the White race.

An anthropological description of the Jewish people:
http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/view.jsp?artid=1573&letter=A
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The Jewish people are mostly Caucasiod, some such as the Ashkenazis have adopted alot of European blood, well those of Shepardic blood still have their Semitic looks.

Sephardic Jews are of partly Spanish ancestry and that is the only reason they are darker than the Ashkenazis of partly German ancestry. 
 
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What you posted was posted on WN anti-Semitic organization to prove that Jews are racist.
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We don't even hate Blacks because of their skin color, many of us Shepardics are dark skined, but what we hate is their actions.
Your opinion.

The Ashkenazi Jews are not from Ashkenaz, but your correct that Germanics are from Ashkenaz son of Japeith not Shem.  The Jews their are called Ashkenazi Jews because they lived among Germanic peoples. Japeith is the father of the Aryan White race ie Indo-Europeans/Old Europeans. The Jewish Encyclopedia in the past has clamied that most Russian and Ashkenazi Jews to be a Turko-Finnic stock called the Khazars it written by Jews who are self-hateres. The Jewish Encyclopedia is often quoted by racists to disporve the Jewishness of people. Mizhrachi/Shepardim do show often slight blondism since their a Caucasiod race, also Arabs are known to have blondism but their not from the same Caucasiod race as Europeans, Shepardim and Mizrachi are often one people in Israel, their is no differences between the two thus Mizrachi Jews are Shepardim. If you read Spanish history the Spainards could tell the Shepardim from the general Christian population, since they had the same phenotype as the Arab invaders. The Samartians are Caucasiod but their not White, here are their pictures, many look like Arabs!

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They don'nt look arab they look like Indian Jews
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Arabs can tell mizrachi Jews from Arabs    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3399709,00.html


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He also denied that President Hafiz had personally known Cohen and explained that "the president himself, being a former intelligence officer, doubted (Cohen being Argentinean – R.N.) because he had Jewish features."
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They don'nt look arab they look like Indian Jews

Arabs are usually lighter skined, but i showed them being blond does not mean having European bloodline, and the original Jews are dark like the Mizrachi, the Israelities bone were of Orintealid Caucasiod race. If even if their blond, they usually look different from Europeans, as bone structure also plays a role.

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Number2 in the photo looks like my pharmacy owner someone from India,the first photo has Jewish eyes,looks Jewish
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Arabs can tell mizrachi Jews from Arabs    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3399709,00.html


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He also denied that President Hafiz had personally known Cohen and explained that "the president himself, being a former intelligence officer, doubted (Cohen being Argentinean – R.N.) because he had Jewish features."

Yes sometimes, and sometimes its very diffuclut to tell them apart.

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Arabs can tell mizrachi Jews from Arabs    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3399709,00.html

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He also denied that President Hafiz had personally known Cohen and explained that "the president himself, being a former intelligence officer, doubted (Cohen being Argentinean – R.N.) because he had Jewish features."

Mord, I hope you realize that the Syrians, being Muslims, would automatically lie - that they would automatically deny that their "glorious leader" was fooled by Eli Cohen.

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Shepardics look like Arabs, i like said "White" is an objective term.Also many of the Mizrachi Jews are dark skined like East Indians, look at them. please, we are Caucasiod, but not in the term White.

Yacov, did you remove this bit from Babylonian Jew's remarks? And if so, why?

As for the question under discussion, I'm not an expert. But if the Disraeli quote is genuine, then what does it matter where it's been posted? Dispute it on its own merits, or lack thereof.

And as for Jews being a "race" in Disraeli's eyes, it's my understanding that he lived in a day when Jews intermingled less frequently than they do now - therefore, he may have been justified in deeming them, generally speaking, a race as well as a people.

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Arabs are usually lighter skined, but i showed them being blond does not mean having European bloodline, and the original Jews are dark like the Mizrachi, the Israelities bone were of Orintealid Caucasiod race. If even if their blond, they usually look different from Europeans, as bone structure also plays a role.
Original Jews are East-Mediterranids which is just a branch of the greater Mediterranean Caucasian race. An Italian person of the Mediterranean race is genetically and physically more related to a Jew than a Nordic Swede.

"Orientalid" is a Nazi anthropology term.

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Arabs are usually lighter skinned, but i showed them being blond does not mean having European bloodline, and the original Jews are dark like the Mizrachi, the Israelities bone were of Orintealid Caucasoid race. If even if their blond, they usually look different from Europeans, as bone structure also plays a role.
Original Jews are  which is just a branch of the greater Mediterranean Caucasian race. An Italian person of the Mediterranean race is genetically and physically more related to a Jew than a Nordic Swede.

"Orientalid" is a Nazi anthropology term.

Mediterranean of the European variety look different from the Orientalid variety.

Orientalid: Iranian (Oriental)

Brunet-white color, very dark hair and eyes, abbundant pilosity; medium stature (165), slim body; very long (74) and high head with prominent occiput; long face; large and high nose with root at the level of the forehead, straight or convex spine, strongly curved nostrils (64); full lips, robust chin. (Persians of Yezd, FIELD).

Subraces: Assyroid, Libyan,Arabid

 Assryoid common among Iraqis,Mizrachi Jews,Assyrians


Libyan common in North African Arabs


Arabid common in Arabian peninsula still is the dominate race


Iraqi a variety of the Arabid race, usually taller and more with straight hair, Iraqi Arabs and Jews
         


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Mediterranean of the European variety look different from the Orientalid variety.
So what? Italians and Jews just belong to different Mediterranean subtypes. The Mediterranean race as a whole is a White race.

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Mediterranean of the European variety look different from the Orientalid variety.
So what? Italians and Jews just belong to different Mediterranean subtypes. The Mediterranean race as a whole is a White race.

Yes i agree, but people with light brown skin, are usually called non-Whites, even Meds themselves, usually Orintealids are seen by WN's as non-White Caucasiods. The majorty of the Arabs belonging to it.

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Mediterranean of the European variety look different from the Orientalid variety.
So what? Italians and Jews just belong to different Mediterranean subtypes. The Mediterranean race as a whole is a White race.

Yes i agree, but people with light brown skin, are usually called non-Whites, even Meds themselves, usually Orintealids are seen by WN's as non-White Caucasiods. The majorty of the Arabs belonging to it.
As I said most Arabs have Negroid influences, f.e. Palestinians have 13% Negroid DNA. Turks are nearly all Mongoloid influenced averaging at 7% Mongoloid admixture.