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Hungary leaning Nazi! I am stunned...
« on: April 12, 2010, 11:12:31 AM »
This news would not affect me except that my supervisor at work is Hungarian and we have an OK relationship. I read the other day that a Nazi party has gained some popularity in Hungary. They just held an election on Sunday and it appears that the Nazi party gained a substantial part of the vote for their parlament {I don't know Hungarian government too well}. Here is the article from IsraelNatialNews.com:



http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/136964

'Openly Anti-Semitic' Party Gains Power in Hungary
Nisan 28, 5770, 12 April 10 11:55
by Maayana Miskin


(Israelnationalnews.com) The center-right and far-right won by a wide margin in Hungary's elections Sunday, initial results showed. The right-wing Fidesz party took 52.77 percent of the vote, and the far-right Jobbik party took 16.71. The incumbent Socialist party took only 19.29 percent.

Runoffs will be held later in the month in districts where no candidate received a majority of the votes.

The results were a cause for concern for European Jewish groups, which have accused Jobbik of anti-Semitism and racial hatred. One Hungarian Jewish group labeled Sunday's election the first time “a movement pursuing openly anti-Semitic policies” has gained power in Hungary since the Nazi era.

The victory for Fidesz and Jobbik came as Hungary faces increasing poverty and unemployment. The country recently turned to the International Monetary Fund with a request for aid, becoming the first European Union country to seek an IMF bailout.

On Sunday, Hungarian Jews protested in Budapest against the anti-Semitic climate in the country in advance of the elections. Recent anti-Semitic incidents have included vandalism, a neo-Nazi rally, and an attack on a rabbi's home over Passover.

In 2009, Jobbik candidate-for-parliament Judit Szima was accused of approving an article for publication that referred to anti-Semitism as “the duty of every Hungarian homeland lover,” and called to “prepare for armed battle against the Jews.” Another candidate, Krisztina Morvai, allegedly responded to criticism by saying, “I would be glad if the so-called proud Hungarian Jews would go back to playing with their tiny little circumcised tail rather than vilifying me.”

The party's magazine recently ran a picture of a statue of a bishop holding a menorah instead of a cross. “Is this what you want?” the headline asked.

Jobbik vehemently denies that it is an anti-Semitic movement, and similarly denies charges that it has promoted hatred against the Roma (gypsy) minority. The party has denied that the statements attributed to Morvai were said by her.

While the party denies charges of anti-Semitism, it admits to being politically pro-Arab. “The Movement for a Better Hungary has always been primarily sympathetic to the Palestinian cause... as Hungarian nationalists, we can sympathize more readily with a people who have had their land taken away from them, in order to form a new country,” Jobbik states on its website.

Jobbik also states that Israeli companies “dominate the Budapest property market,” and says it wants to reduce Israeli firms' control in the Hungarian capital.

Jobbik leader Gabor Vona is a founding member of the Hungarian Guard (Magyar Garda), a black-suited civilian patrol group accused by detractors of styling itself after Nazi-era groups. The Hungarian Guard was recently banned, but has not disbanded. Vona has promised to wear a Guard uniform when he is sworn in to parliament.



Is this not sad news... Especially on Holocaust memorial day!?!


You shall make yourself the Festival of Sukkoth for seven days, when you gather in [the produce] from your threshing floor and your vat.And you shall rejoice in your Festival-you, and your son, and your daughter, and your manservant, and your maidservant, and the Levite, and the stranger, and the orphan, and the widow, who are within your cities
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Re: Hungary leaning Nazi! I am stunned...
« Reply #1 on: April 12, 2010, 11:19:24 AM »
Arabs aren't Hungarian! They're not Hungarian nationalists if they're pro-Muslim or pro-Arab.

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Re: Hungary leaning Nazi! I am stunned...
« Reply #2 on: April 12, 2010, 02:05:36 PM »
Arabs aren't Hungarian! They're not Hungarian nationalists if they're pro-Muslim or pro-Arab.


But did you not read that Jobbik is the largest Hungarian Right-Wing party which has expressed anti-semitic ideas? I need to talk to my friend about what is going on over there. The Hungarian Guard seems to be fanning the flames of the Nazi era.

You shall make yourself the Festival of Sukkoth for seven days, when you gather in [the produce] from your threshing floor and your vat.And you shall rejoice in your Festival-you, and your son, and your daughter, and your manservant, and your maidservant, and the Levite, and the stranger, and the orphan, and the widow, who are within your cities
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Re: Hungary leaning Nazi! I am stunned...
« Reply #3 on: April 12, 2010, 03:01:25 PM »
This Jobbik people need an little bit cultural enrichment by their Muslim friends to cure them.
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Re: Hungary leaning Nazi! I am stunned...
« Reply #4 on: April 12, 2010, 03:26:27 PM »
Nazism is nearly outgone, but it's still a matter of concern. We had two news about them today, just on the Holocuast Memorial Day. ( The pro-Nazi Bishop, and this election in Hungary). That's why I disagree with siding with both right or left wing non-Noahides Gentiles. They have their own agenda, and one never knows what they may come up with.

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« Reply #5 on: April 12, 2010, 03:40:06 PM »
It's amazing how so many Jews disagree with me on this matter while Raul who's a goy agrees with me.

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« Reply #6 on: April 12, 2010, 03:41:33 PM »
Our people in Hungary should already have guns, and be stocking up on ammo!!!

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Re: Hungary leaning Nazi! I am stunned...
« Reply #7 on: April 12, 2010, 04:30:23 PM »
Arabs aren't Hungarian! They're not Hungarian nationalists if they're pro-Muslim or pro-Arab.

Jews need to get out. This is not a Pro Arab or Muslim vote but a White Power vote.
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Re: Hungary leaning Nazi! I am stunned...
« Reply #8 on: April 12, 2010, 04:48:42 PM »
Arabs aren't Hungarian! They're not Hungarian nationalists if they're pro-Muslim or pro-Arab.

Jews need to get out. This is not a Pro Arab or Muslim vote but a White Power vote.

Ironically, Hungarians are neither  White Aryans, nor White Semites. They are Aisians who arrived in Europe long ago. Under the nazi theory, they would be slaughtered quicker than Jews, because they're less related to Indoeurpeans then Jews are. While ancient Israelites and Indoeuroopeans might have a common ancestor, Hiungarians are far less related.
But anti-Semitism comes in all forms and shapes. In fact, most nazis (ysh"w) were not even Aryans in Germany, neither they believed in the Aryan superiority theory, but they still supported the anihilation of Jews. When SS was about to kill the Karaylar ( an ethnic group with a culture similar to Crimean Karaites), they let them off after concluding that Karaylar are mostly genetically Turks. However Turks are less related to Indoeuropens than Semites.

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Re: Hungary leaning Nazi! I am stunned...
« Reply #9 on: April 12, 2010, 04:57:58 PM »
Arabs aren't Hungarian! They're not Hungarian nationalists if they're pro-Muslim or pro-Arab.


But did you not read that Jobbik is the largest Hungarian Right-Wing party which has expressed anti-semitic ideas? I need to talk to my friend about what is going on over there. The Hungarian Guard seems to be fanning the flames of the Nazi era.



Nazis were Muslim lovers too of course.

Anybody who thinks that Hitler really cared about his own people though needs to be told about the T4 program which murdered and sterilized a lot of them.

"It is estimated that 360,000 people were sterilised under this law between 1933 and 1939."

German children were stolen from their loving parents and murdered by the Nazi regime. In other words, not all gave consent for this horror:

"Various methods of deception were used to gain consent – particularly in Catholic areas where parents were generally uncooperative. Parents were told that their children were being sent to "Special Sections" for children where they would receive improved care.[26] The children sent to these centres were kept for "assessment" for a few weeks and then killed by lethal injection, their deaths recorded as "pneumonia". "

"By 1941 over 5,000 children had been killed"

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Re: Hungary leaning Nazi! I am stunned...
« Reply #10 on: April 12, 2010, 05:09:59 PM »
RS,

I hear what you are saying here. But the point I am making is that Nazis rose to power by using Jews as scapegoats... Just as this Jobbiks party is using the Jewish people as a scapegoat today.

I do not know much about this Jobbik party except what I hear makes me worry...

You shall make yourself the Festival of Sukkoth for seven days, when you gather in [the produce] from your threshing floor and your vat.And you shall rejoice in your Festival-you, and your son, and your daughter, and your manservant, and your maidservant, and the Levite, and the stranger, and the orphan, and the widow, who are within your cities
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Re: Hungary leaning Nazi! I am stunned...
« Reply #11 on: April 12, 2010, 05:21:59 PM »
So they will turn on Israel and Hungary will be cursed, well- too bad so sad, another nation turns to evil.
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Re: Hungary leaning Nazi! I am stunned...
« Reply #12 on: April 12, 2010, 05:35:44 PM »
Unfortunately the "far right" obsesses over the "poor Palestinians". While the problems in the Middle East are unfortunate attempting to ally yourselves with Muslims/Arabs is idiotic.

Like I wrote in a previous thread, the power of the words of those who obsess over Jews would be greatly diminished if more Jews actively opposed the Leftists/Jews who screamed Nazi the minute anyone opposed the racial degradation of their country.

As it stands now, I would be called a Nazi and I'm part Jew, hahaha.

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Re: Hungary leaning Nazi! I am stunned...
« Reply #13 on: April 12, 2010, 05:39:27 PM »
Unfortunately the "far right" obsesses over the "poor Palestinians". While the problems in the Middle East are unfortunate attempting to ally yourselves with Muslims/Arabs is idiotic.

Like I wrote in a previous thread, the power of the words of those who obsess over Jews would be greatly diminished if more Jews actively opposed the Leftists/Jews who screamed Nazi the minute anyone opposed the racial degradation of their country.

As it stands now, I would be called a Nazi and I'm part Jew, hahaha.

Sounds like you are making excuses for the antisemites. Antisemitism has no excuse. There is a difference between not liking certain Jews and hating all Jews. I don't agree with your opinion.

There is no sane reason for antisemitism. Blood libels, deicide, etc... They are all excuses for irrational hatred. Even if all Jews were right wing and totally observant they would still hate us.

Do not buy the lies about how they would love us if we only did this, or only did that... History is full of examples of when Jews tried to do what the gentiles wanted... They still hated us, and they hated us even more than before...

PS: Judaism is not a racial characteristic... It is a combination of things including race, observance, and belief.
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Re: Hungary leaning Nazi! I am stunned...
« Reply #14 on: April 13, 2010, 06:09:49 AM »
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Krisztina Morvai, allegedly responded to criticism by saying, “I would be glad if the so-called proud Hungarian Jews would go back to playing with their tiny little circumcised tail rather than vilifying me.”
Kristina seems like an expert on these matters perhaps she was stupped by a Jewish guy and he left her  :laugh: :laugh:
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« Reply #15 on: April 13, 2010, 06:27:34 AM »
Yes i am correct i went to StørmFrønt her husband is Jewish\




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Do you mean he is secretly Jewish? Then why on earth do all the people on this thread want to vote into power a woman who has three kids from that guy?
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Re: Hungary leaning Nazi! I am stunned...
« Reply #16 on: April 13, 2010, 06:40:48 AM »
Expect hungary to go through what yugoslavia has gone through. It will break up into a dozen muslim countries all impovershed.
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« Reply #17 on: April 13, 2010, 07:42:21 AM »
She's evil Nazi trash.

An Arrow Shirt whore posing as a "human rights" lawyer.

I can never understand how Jews could remain living in Nazi countries after WWII.

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« Reply #18 on: April 13, 2010, 04:39:19 PM »
Expect hungary to go through what yugoslavia has gone through. It will break up into a dozen muslim countries all impovershed.

Doubtful, the people there don't like arabs or muslims, they aren't voting to import more of them. The reason why you hear some of the "far right" obsess over the Palestinians etc is because they believe it makes them look more humanitarian but I think its being intellectually dishonest and I don't view it as useful.

The party was voted into power specifically because they don't want anymore immigrants from Africa or the Middle East, etc that are overrunning the rest of Europe.

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« Reply #19 on: April 13, 2010, 08:27:45 PM »
Why are you stunned? Just look at history >:(
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Re: Hungary leaning Nazi! I am stunned...
« Reply #20 on: April 14, 2010, 01:33:26 AM »
Why are you stunned? Just look at history >:(

Im sorry I did not explain in more detail... My superior at my work is from Hungary, he grew up there. Last week we went out to lunch together and he was telling me about Hungary, about which I know very little. I do know that it was with Germany during the war and it was not kind to its Jews. But since I have known my friend, my supervisor, he has never said anything which indicated a hatred of Jews. As a matter of fact, last week over lunch, he told me that he listens to a certain Rabbi on the local radio talkshow program. He is not religious but he told me that he admires the Jewish religion. Of course he knows Im Jewish because I wear tzittzits, kippah, and long side-curls and always tell him about what is kosher and not kosher.


Sorta what I look like
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I was stunned because just as I was getting that 'warm fuzzy' feeling about Hungary I read this news. Why is it that I always know the nicest of those who have histories of hating Jews? My highschool friend was a Estonian... Of the Lutheran faith...

« Last Edit: April 14, 2010, 01:40:35 AM by muman613 »
You shall make yourself the Festival of Sukkoth for seven days, when you gather in [the produce] from your threshing floor and your vat.And you shall rejoice in your Festival-you, and your son, and your daughter, and your manservant, and your maidservant, and the Levite, and the stranger, and the orphan, and the widow, who are within your cities
Duet 16:13-14

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« Reply #21 on: April 14, 2010, 03:58:48 AM »
How stunning

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« Reply #22 on: April 14, 2010, 06:03:20 AM »
Why are you stunned? Just look at history >:(

Im sorry I did not explain in more detail... My superior at my work is from Hungary, he grew up there. Last week we went out to lunch together and he was telling me about Hungary, about which I know very little. I do know that it was with Germany during the war and it was not kind to its Jews. But since I have known my friend, my supervisor, he has never said anything which indicated a hatred of Jews. As a matter of fact, last week over lunch, he told me that he listens to a certain Rabbi on the local radio talkshow program. He is not religious but he told me that he admires the Jewish religion. Of course he knows Im Jewish because I wear tzittzits, kippah, and long side-curls and always tell him about what is kosher and not kosher.


Sorta what I look like
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I was stunned because just as I was getting that 'warm fuzzy' feeling about Hungary I read this news. Why is it that I always know the nicest of those who have histories of hating Jews? My highschool friend was a Estonian... Of the Lutheran faith...


You always have exceptions muman. That doesn't change the fact that Hungary was and still is one of the most antisemitic countries. They generally dislike non-Hungarians, but Jews and Gypsies especially.