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Was John Lennon a Communist?
« on: April 27, 2010, 10:21:27 AM »
The lyrics of the Beatles' song "Imagine" are just too similiar to that of the Communist anthem.

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Re: Was John Lennon a Communist?
« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2010, 10:40:39 AM »

Of course he was a communist, and like all leftists also a hypocrite, because I didn't see him give up all his material possessions for his Utopian communal ideals.
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Re: Was John Lennon a Communist?
« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2010, 10:56:39 AM »
As far as I am concerned, Mark David Chapmn did the world a favor. Lennon was a danger to the youth of today.

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Re: Was John Lennon a Communist?
« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2010, 11:47:39 AM »
Yes...
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Re: Was John Lennon a Communist?
« Reply #4 on: April 27, 2010, 12:52:13 PM »

Of course he was a communist, and like all leftists also a hypocrite, because I didn't see him give up all his material possessions for his Utopian communal ideals.
They usual act like this. They want to distribute only the wealth of others. Under common people this is called stealing.
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Re: Was John Lennon a Communist?
« Reply #5 on: April 27, 2010, 02:25:39 PM »
The lyrics of the Beatles' song "Imagine" are just too similiar to that of the Communist anthem.

He's not look at him it's easy for him to say imagine a life with no possesions Meanwhile look at everything he owned.
He's a BS artist.
Not that i'm speaking of communism in a positive aspect.

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Re: Was John Lennon a Communist?
« Reply #6 on: April 27, 2010, 02:51:38 PM »
Lennon was actually under surveillance by the FBI. 

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Re: Was John Lennon a Communist?
« Reply #7 on: April 27, 2010, 03:35:50 PM »
Even his name is communist.

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Re: Was John Lennon a Communist?
« Reply #8 on: April 27, 2010, 03:39:17 PM »
This whole discussion reminds me of a thought I have had in the past.  It is respectable to be a Communist in the USA today.  My step daughter has a friend who is a self proclaimed Communist and it is considered cute in their social circle.  This in spite of the tens of millions of people killed by Communists such as Mao, Stalin, etc.  Could you imagine someone in polite company announcing that they were Nazis?  That would not be considered a polite thing to say or do.
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Re: Was John Lennon a Communist?
« Reply #9 on: April 27, 2010, 03:42:40 PM »

Of course he was a communist, and like all leftists also a hypocrite, because I didn't see him give up all his material possessions for his Utopian communal ideals.
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Re: Was John Lennon a Communist?
« Reply #10 on: April 27, 2010, 03:53:24 PM »
Even his name is communist.

I just realized that.... :::D :laugh: Irony Irony.


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Re: Was John Lennon a Communist?
« Reply #11 on: April 27, 2010, 04:41:36 PM »
This whole discussion reminds me of a thought I have had in the past.  It is respectable to be a Communist in the USA today.  My step daughter has a friend who is a self proclaimed Communist and it is considered cute in their social circle.  This in spite of the tens of millions of people killed by Communists such as Mao, Stalin, etc.  Could you imagine someone in polite company announcing that they were Nazis?  That would not be considered a polite thing to say or do.

Yeah it's OK to be a communist though if your a patriot, my guess the government will probably start spying on us soon in the USA.
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Re: Was John Lennon a Communist?
« Reply #12 on: April 27, 2010, 05:20:06 PM »
1- I don't know if he really supported communism or not. He might have had some similar utopic ideas without supporting the communist ideology.
2- Not good to praise a murderer in a Jewish forum.
3- I would classify "Imagine" as hate speech. "Imagine there's no religion...." What does it mean? Either a genocide of believers or a massive conversion to atheism by force!!!

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Re: Was John Lennon a Communist?
« Reply #13 on: April 27, 2010, 07:24:51 PM »
1- I don't know if he really supported communism or not. He might have had some similar utopic ideas without supporting the communist ideology.
2- Not good to praise a murderer in a Jewish forum.
3- I would classify "Imagine" as hate speech. "Imagine there's no religion...." What does it mean? Either a genocide of believers or a massive conversion to atheism by force!!!
"Imagine no religion" means he is an atheist who thinks we will be in Nirvana when the rest of the world adopts atheism.  John Lennon was not an outwardly mean guy (although he largely abandoned his first son) but he was a typical liberal who loved people but did not like individual persons.
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Re: Was John Lennon a Communist?
« Reply #14 on: April 27, 2010, 07:30:49 PM »
As Rabbi Avigdor Miller said in 1980: "The bullet that killed Lennon was pretty late in coming!"
And this is the eternal Canuck conspiracist Barry Chamish's take on Lennon from 1999:

                                    Supposing there's no Lennon

Yoko Ono arrived in Israel last week and initiated the most publicized cultural event in years. She opened her "art" exhibit in an obscure Arab town called Um Al Fahd, whose only only claim to fame is a roadside cafe with decent grilled lamb, as a statement for peace and the following week moved her treasures to the Israel Museum in Jerusalem, which responded by footing the bill for full page ads advertising the honor of her presence.
 
Since Ono is hardly in demand anywhere, one may legitimately ask what she is doing in Israel spreading her vision of world harmony. To do so, it might be a good idea to examine a few alternative views of who she is in the first place.
 
An important place to start might be a book written by a London attorney, Fenton Bressler, called Who Killed John Lennon. Bressler makes a strong argument that Lennon's murderer was one of a long line of programmed killers. Like Oswald, Sirhan, Amir, Sarah Jane Moore, Squeaky Fromme, Hinckley, et al, Mark David Chapman was a rather confused young person who was isolated for a time from his regular circumstances. In his case, he spent the summer of 1975 in Beirut, Lebanon, just when the civil war broke out, as a youth trainer for the YMCA. Bresler notes that the YMCA is one of those international organizations the CIA utilizes to plant agents worldwide and his conclusion is that the CIA knocked off Lennon because he was planning a comeback that threatened its militaristic philosophy.
 
More likely, Chapman was a New World Order patsy programmed to eliminate a similar stooge for very different reasons. After Chapman's Beirut sojourn, he felt impelled to fly to Hawaii where he courted and married a Japanese woman whose similarity to Ono was more than uncanny. Just before shooting Lennon, the penniless Chapman found the funds to crisscross continental America. He arrived in New York in 1980 carrying his precious copy of J.D. Salinger's classic book, The Catcher In The Rye.
 
After shooting Lennon, Chapman waited patiently for the police to arrive and they found him reading Salinger with great intensity. Under questioning, Chapman didn't actually remember the moment of the shooting but said he had no strong feelings towards Lennon one way or another. In fact, he never even bought a Lennon album. He murdered him, he insisted, to prove that HE was the real Catcher In The Rye.
 
Now there's a rational motive, if you happen to be psychologically programmed to kill. Sarah Jane Moore thought she was a character in the Donna Reed Show, a mild tv sitcom of the 1960s, while Squeaky Fromme claimed to be a Clairol Girl, from a TV commercial of the same era.
 
Meanwhile, a few months later, the new president, Ronald Reagan was shot by a patsy named Hinckley who claimed he saw the film Taxi Driver and wanted to murder the president to impress its star, Jody Foster. One could legitimately surmise that Lennon's murder was just a dry run to test whether the public would buy the Foster motive after the real target, Reagan, was murdered, to be replaced by the NWO star George Bush. Reagan's intended demise was a repeat of the two attempts on Ford by Moore and Fromme, whose goal was to get the New World Order superstar Nelson Rockefeller into the White House.
 
Yoko Ono, a product of a prominent Japanese military and financial powerhouse family, was planted in the Beatles to break them up. In this, her ever obnoxious presence did the trick. Her next stage was to turn everbody's choice as the most intellectual Beatle, into a NWO donkey. It wasn't long before she had Lennon posing naked on his most embarassing album, sitting in a burlap sack during a bed-in for peace and sending acorns to world leaders for motives less than clear then and downright ridiculous now. And the more Lennon became a clown, the more his programmed obsession with Ono increased.
 
Why would Lennon be such an easy target for mind manipulation? Albert Goldman, in his biography of Lennon, maintains that he was a violent, unstable personality who beat band member Stu Sutcliffe so badly that he died of a blood clot in the brain shortly after. He insists that Lennon had a homosexual relationship with manager Brian Epstein and had a personal hand in his unexplainable "suicide," a claim that Paul McCartney unconvincingly dismissed in a recent BBC documentary.
 
However Ono did it, Lennon began writing songs that fit the NWO agenda like a glove. In his first solo album, the most memorable song, called G-d, attempts to destroy religion as thoroughly as possible. The song begins with the line, "G-d is a concept by which we measure our pain," a patently false observation. As any religious person will explain, G-d is a concept by which we measure our joy. The song then lists Gods from Jesus to Elvis which Lennon rejects, in favor of, "I just believe in me, Yoko and me."
 
After this, Lennon recorded a series of meaningless radical anthems like Give Peace A Chance and Woman Is The schvartza Of The World, a song which one can argue whether it is more insulting to women or blacks. But the ultimate disgrace was a ditty called Imagine, which attempts to brainwash and inculcate his listeners in the full NWO agenda.
 
Imagine paints a world with no heaven or hell, that is with no morality, with no countries, possessions or religions. It is a thoroughly dreadful vision of a robotic state without devotion to any higher good; just what the NWO ordered.
 
During this period, Paul McCartney attacked Lennon's behaviour and his irrational attachment to Ono. Lennon went on a vengeful rampage, posing for a photo of him holding a pig's ears, a mockery of McCartney's Ram album cover and attacked McCartney viciously in a song called How Do You Sleep.
 
But the ultimate revenge was rumored to have been Ono's. Just prior to McCartney's performance in Japan, he was busted at Tokyo Airport when the police found a small amount of grass in his equipment. McCartney was jailed and in ways he refuses to divulge, the cops forced him to sing Yesterday for them. The humiliation of McCartney was complete and Lennon's vendetta against him stopped.
 
That freed Lennon to ruin his career with the close cooperation of his Dragon Lady. He now released albums and appeared on stage with her cacaphonious contribution sabotaging his musical integrity. That was the state of affairs in 1979, when Lennon returned to the studios to record his final album. Once he was dead, the mediocre cuts became hits and even Ono had a number one bestseller. The exact motive for Lennon's death remains unclear but there is no doubt that his killer was mind-controlled and fulfilled a covert operation in the exact mode of most political assassinations since the 1960s.
 
And now Yoko Ono is doing her unique thing in Israel, and whatever the real reasons she is here, there is evil in her motives. That's her way of doing things.



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Re: Was John Lennon a Communist?
« Reply #15 on: April 27, 2010, 08:02:20 PM »
I don't know if he was or not but I do know is that he was an athiest.

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Re: Was John Lennon a Communist?
« Reply #16 on: April 28, 2010, 05:00:19 AM »
He was many things, but NOT a communist:

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Let me tell you
How it will be.
There's one for you,
Nineteen for me,

'Cause I'm the taxman.
Yeah, I'm the taxman.

Should five percent
Appear too small,
Be thankful I don't
Take it all.

'Cause I'm the taxman.
Yeah, I'm the taxman.

If you drive a car,
I'll tax the street.
If you drive to city,
I'll tax your seat.
If you get too cold,
I'll tax the heat.
If you take a walk,
I'll tax your feet.

Taxman!

'Cause I'm the taxman.
Yeah, I'm the taxman.

Don't ask me what I want it for,
(Uh-uh, Mr. Wilson.)
If you don't want to pay some more.
(Uh-uh, Mr. Heath.)

'Cause I'm the taxman.
Yeah, I'm the taxman.

And my advice to
Those who die.
(Taxman!)
Declare the pennies
On your eyes.
(Taxman!)

'Cause I'm the taxman.
Yeah, I'm the taxman,
And you're working for no one but me.
(Taxman!)

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Re: Was John Lennon a Communist?
« Reply #17 on: April 28, 2010, 06:25:12 AM »
   Keep in mind that the success of any type of government depends on how people contribute and advance the society. Some Israeli Kibbutz's experienced limit success as a result. This didn't last much more than a generation because the offspring of the founders did not share the merit of building the society. The problem is that communism discourages people from contributing their fair share so people from generation 2 did not have to make the same sacrifices and did not have to work as hard. People from generation 1 were united by a drive to return to Israel and hashem had rewarded them for it.

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Re: Was John Lennon a Communist?
« Reply #18 on: April 28, 2010, 07:39:26 AM »
The Beatles concert in Israel in 1965 was cancelled as it was viewed as a threat to the morals of the Israeli youth http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1015020.html

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Re: Was John Lennon a Communist?
« Reply #19 on: April 28, 2010, 08:07:01 AM »
I do not know that if he would have survived then he would have been a better president or not.
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Re: Was John Lennon a Communist?
« Reply #20 on: April 28, 2010, 08:36:25 AM »
He was many things, but NOT a communist:

Quote
Let me tell you
How it will be.
There's one for you,
Nineteen for me,

'Cause I'm the taxman.
Yeah, I'm the taxman.

Should five percent
Appear too small,
Be thankful I don't
Take it all.

'Cause I'm the taxman.
Yeah, I'm the taxman.

If you drive a car,
I'll tax the street.
If you drive to city,
I'll tax your seat.
If you get too cold,
I'll tax the heat.
If you take a walk,
I'll tax your feet.

Taxman!

'Cause I'm the taxman.
Yeah, I'm the taxman.

Don't ask me what I want it for,
(Uh-uh, Mr. Wilson.)
If you don't want to pay some more.
(Uh-uh, Mr. Heath.)

'Cause I'm the taxman.
Yeah, I'm the taxman.

And my advice to
Those who die.
(Taxman!)
Declare the pennies
On your eyes.
(Taxman!)

'Cause I'm the taxman.
Yeah, I'm the taxman,
And you're working for no one but me.
(Taxman!)

That song was written by George Harrison.
"When the people fear their government, there is tyranny;
when the government fears the people, there is liberty.”
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Re: Was John Lennon a Communist?
« Reply #21 on: April 28, 2010, 11:18:47 AM »
He was many things, but NOT a communist:

Quote
Let me tell you
How it will be.
There's one for you,
Nineteen for me,

'Cause I'm the taxman.
Yeah, I'm the taxman.

Should five percent
Appear too small,
Be thankful I don't
Take it all.

'Cause I'm the taxman.
Yeah, I'm the taxman.

If you drive a car,
I'll tax the street.
If you drive to city,
I'll tax your seat.
If you get too cold,
I'll tax the heat.
If you take a walk,
I'll tax your feet.

Taxman!

'Cause I'm the taxman.
Yeah, I'm the taxman.

Don't ask me what I want it for,
(Uh-uh, Mr. Wilson.)
If you don't want to pay some more.
(Uh-uh, Mr. Heath.)

'Cause I'm the taxman.
Yeah, I'm the taxman.

And my advice to
Those who die.
(Taxman!)
Declare the pennies
On your eyes.
(Taxman!)

'Cause I'm the taxman.
Yeah, I'm the taxman,
And you're working for no one but me.
(Taxman!)

That song was written by George Harrison.
OK... But I don't think Lennon liked paying taxes any more then Harrison. You know they where sort of pioneers in tax minimization strategies. They incorporated their Band and moved out of the UK. Not that I blame them because back then the British Taxman really did claimed something 95 pence of every pound they earned.

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Re: Was John Lennon a Communist?
« Reply #22 on: April 28, 2010, 11:30:56 AM »
He was many things, but NOT a communist:

Quote
Let me tell you
How it will be.
There's one for you,
Nineteen for me,

'Cause I'm the taxman.
Yeah, I'm the taxman.

Should five percent
Appear too small,
Be thankful I don't
Take it all.

'Cause I'm the taxman.
Yeah, I'm the taxman.

If you drive a car,
I'll tax the street.
If you drive to city,
I'll tax your seat.
If you get too cold,
I'll tax the heat.
If you take a walk,
I'll tax your feet.

Taxman!

'Cause I'm the taxman.
Yeah, I'm the taxman.

Don't ask me what I want it for,
(Uh-uh, Mr. Wilson.)
If you don't want to pay some more.
(Uh-uh, Mr. Heath.)

'Cause I'm the taxman.
Yeah, I'm the taxman.

And my advice to
Those who die.
(Taxman!)
Declare the pennies
On your eyes.
(Taxman!)

'Cause I'm the taxman.
Yeah, I'm the taxman,
And you're working for no one but me.
(Taxman!)

That song was written by George Harrison.
OK... But I don't think Lennon liked paying taxes any more then Harrison. You know they where sort of pioneers in tax minimization strategies. They incorporated their Band and moved out of the UK. Not that I blame them because back then the British Taxman really did claimed something 95 pence of every pound they earned.

Yes, I believe you are right that the British tax code for high wage earners was something like 95%.
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when the government fears the people, there is liberty.”
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Re: Was John Lennon a Communist?
« Reply #23 on: April 28, 2010, 11:37:01 AM »
John Lennon was a satanist!


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Re: Was John Lennon a Communist?
« Reply #24 on: April 28, 2010, 01:14:56 PM »
The other hand sign on the left also means 666. It's not just the A-Ok sign.