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should i vote for these guys at the election
« on: May 04, 2010, 03:10:39 PM »
You may have heard me ask chaim what i should do in the UK election. This party are probably the most right wing after BNP. Should i give them a vote over this??

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/election_2010/england/8660823.stm

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Re: should i vote for these guys at the election
« Reply #1 on: May 04, 2010, 03:12:57 PM »
No you should vote for the BNP.

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Re: should i vote for these guys at the election
« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2010, 03:51:53 PM »
No you should vote for the BNP.

are you jewish?

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Re: should i vote for these guys at the election
« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2010, 03:58:24 PM »

The BNP seem the way to go for the people in the UK if they want to save their country.
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Re: should i vote for these guys at the election
« Reply #4 on: May 04, 2010, 04:03:14 PM »
I would vote for the BNP too, they aren't perfect but they are the only ones who address race and the rights of native Britishs to prevent further racial decomposition of their country.

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Re: should i vote for these guys at the election
« Reply #5 on: May 04, 2010, 04:09:51 PM »
i am a white and proud, but i also consider the jews to be white. I am concerned god will punsih me if i vote for an anti semitic party. I agree they suit my principles, but chaim pretty savvy on this stuff and has big reservations about them.

im really confused.

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Re: should i vote for these guys at the election
« Reply #6 on: May 04, 2010, 04:10:41 PM »
Like it or not but Britian is doomed.

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Re: should i vote for these guys at the election
« Reply #7 on: May 04, 2010, 04:13:49 PM »
yea but who would you reccomend i vote for??^^^^^

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Re: should i vote for these guys at the election
« Reply #8 on: May 04, 2010, 04:18:59 PM »
i am a white and proud, but i also consider the jews to be white. I am concerned G-d will punsih me if i vote for an anti semitic party. I agree they suit my principles, but chaim pretty savvy on this stuff and has big reservations about them.

im really confused.

Is there any evidence the BNP is currently anti-semitic? Mr Griffin may have made a few stupid comments in the past but so have most of us.

Ultimately you can do what ever you want but understand that the UKIP will not address what I feel needs to be addressed, the BNP will but as each day passes the likelihood of them getting into power decreases as the demographics of Britain "shift".

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Re: should i vote for these guys at the election
« Reply #9 on: May 04, 2010, 04:47:57 PM »
Do not vote for any party which espouses anti-semitic rhetoric... No matter how much they may agree with us on issues of Muslim immigration they will be no friend to the Jewish people. Antisemites hate Jews more than they hate non-whites...

You shall make yourself the Festival of Sukkoth for seven days, when you gather in [the produce] from your threshing floor and your vat.And you shall rejoice in your Festival-you, and your son, and your daughter, and your manservant, and your maidservant, and the Levite, and the stranger, and the orphan, and the widow, who are within your cities
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Re: should i vote for these guys at the election
« Reply #10 on: May 04, 2010, 04:53:22 PM »
Do not vote for any party which espouses anti-semitic rhetoric... No matter how much they may agree with us on issues of Muslim immigration they will be no friend to the Jewish people. Antisemites hate Jews more than they hate non-whites...



I don't think BNP is more anti-semitic than labour and labour = anti-semitic + pro-muslim.

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Re: should i vote for these guys at the election
« Reply #11 on: May 04, 2010, 05:28:34 PM »
Nick Griffin, the leader of the BNP, is a holocaust denier, a Jew hater. He used to be friends with David Duke, former Grand Wizard of the KKK. He is also friends with notorious Holocaust deniers like David Irving and Robert Faurisson. Just Google his name, there are literally thousands of videos, articles and pictures as evidence. UKIP opposes immigration and it's not a Nazi organisation like the BNP.

Here is just one piece of evidence:


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Re: should i vote for these guys at the election
« Reply #12 on: May 04, 2010, 05:32:00 PM »

Nick Griffin, the leader of the BNP, is a holocaust denier, a Jew hater. He used to be friends with David Duke, former Grand Wizard of the KKK. Just Google his name, there are literally thousands of videos and pictures as evidence. UKIP opposes immigration and it's not a Nazi organisation like the BNP.

Here is just one piece of evidence:




Boy is that Nick Griffin creep an anti-semite or what!?! I hope he has nothing to do with BNP if anyone here is even thinking of voting for that party... It seems very steeped in antisemitism, holocaust denial, and naziism...

You shall make yourself the Festival of Sukkoth for seven days, when you gather in [the produce] from your threshing floor and your vat.And you shall rejoice in your Festival-you, and your son, and your daughter, and your manservant, and your maidservant, and the Levite, and the stranger, and the orphan, and the widow, who are within your cities
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Re: should i vote for these guys at the election
« Reply #13 on: May 05, 2010, 04:43:45 AM »
No you should vote for the BNP.
Already have. Postal vote. No need to listen to ridiculous discussions.

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Re: should i vote for these guys at the election
« Reply #14 on: May 05, 2010, 05:31:46 AM »
DO NOT VOTE BNP.  Vote UKIP instead or else spoil your ballot.  UKIP are pretty poor to be honest, but the best of a very bad bunch - at least it will send a message that the British people want out of the EU.  Do not vote for the BNP, they are vile, anti-Semites.  If people here seriously suggesting to vote for the BNP, maybe I am not in the right place.

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Re: should i vote for these guys at the election
« Reply #15 on: May 05, 2010, 06:36:36 AM »
I am in a similar situation here. There is no good alternative to an invalid vote.

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Re: should i vote for these guys at the election
« Reply #16 on: May 05, 2010, 06:45:18 AM »
at the moment  i am 60 percent not going to vote. 30 percent UKIPa and ten percent BNP(uf someone can prove to me in this very short space of time why they are not anti semitic.

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« Reply #17 on: May 05, 2010, 07:39:42 AM »
at the moment  i am 60 percent not going to vote. 30 percent UKIPa and ten percent BNP(uf someone can prove to me in this very short space of time why they are not anti semitic.
OK, I'll try. What is not in dispute is that several of their older leaders, including Nick Griffin, were once Nazi apologists.The present situation is that this is probably less so, they are the strongest UK party in their support for Israel, they have a lot of Jewish support including one Jewish councillor, and that the vast majority of their support comes from ordinary decent people who do not want their country taken over by Muslims and want their children free to do what for them are culturally normal things like attend traditional schools and celebrate Christmas. For their trouble the Church of England has ordered it's followers not to vote for them, the media completely boycott them except for occasional tricks such as the show-trial of Nick Griffin on Question Time, and policemen and just about all public servants are banned from joining them while all other ethnic groups are free to associate in whatsoever manner they like.

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Re: should i vote for these guys at the election
« Reply #18 on: May 05, 2010, 07:41:44 AM »
at the moment  i am 60 percent not going to vote. 30 percent UKIPa and ten percent BNP(uf someone can prove to me in this very short space of time why they are not anti semitic.

the BNP ARE anti-Semites.
They oppose the English Defence League because - in Nick Griffin's own words - they are a "Zionist false flag operation."  This is not a past statement that he has recanted, this is his current belief.  do not vote BNP.

Don't not vote, go to the polling booth and spoil your ballot.  At least that way you have made a point, they can't dismiss you as apathetic.

I will probably go with UKIP, any increase publicity they can get the better.

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« Reply #19 on: May 05, 2010, 07:43:29 AM »
For their trouble the Church of England has ordered it's followers not to vote for them, the media completely boycott them except for occasional tricks such as the show-trial of Nick Griffin on Question Time, and policemen and just about all public servants are banned from joining them while all other ethnic groups are free to associate in whatsoever manner they like.

wrongs against the BNP don't make them any less racist or anti-Semitic.

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Re: should i vote for these guys at the election
« Reply #20 on: May 05, 2010, 09:26:20 AM »
What about the EDL ? Are there any candidates they endorse ?

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« Reply #21 on: May 05, 2010, 10:04:23 AM »
you need to vote to the the bnp in order to make england stronger and racialy cleaner.that exactly why i would do as a jewish person that love the white world.contray to the rumor nick griffin isn't an anti semite.since he became the party chairman in 1999 the british national party has admitted jews among it's memebers.the party supported israel openly in the second lebanon war and operation cast lead.they are not denying the holocaust in their official pltaforms.as about the party being a neo nazi party,it is a myth but i found at least two groups of neo nazi that as a jew i can openly support:
http://www.nazi.org/
http://www.nazi.org/nazi/national_socialism/
http://www.nazi.org/community/columns/martinez/
http://nasofi.blogspot.com/
the fisrst three link are to the libertarian national socialist green party that think that zionism is a mnational socialist movement.the foutrth link are to a group of nazis that openly supports israel.
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Re: should i vote for these guys at the election
« Reply #22 on: May 05, 2010, 10:59:48 AM »
I think Nick Griffin is definitely an anti-Semite but I don't know if other people in the party necessarily are.

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« Reply #23 on: May 05, 2010, 11:20:52 AM »
you need to vote to the the bnp in order to make england stronger and racialy cleaner.that exactly why i would do as a jewish person that love the white world.contray to the rumor nick griffin isn't an anti semite.since he became the party chairman in 1999 the british national party has admitted jews among it's memebers.the party supported israel openly in the second lebanon war and operation cast lead.they are not denying the holocaust in their official pltaforms.as about the party being a neo nazi party,it is a myth but i found at least two groups of neo nazi that as a jew i can openly support:
http://www.nazi.org/
http://www.nazi.org/nazi/national_socialism/
http://www.nazi.org/community/columns/martinez/
http://nasofi.blogspot.com/
the fisrst three link are to the libertarian national socialist green party that think that zionism is a mnational socialist movement.the foutrth link are to a group of nazis that openly supports israel.
sincerely,normal atheist.

Nazi Israel supporters are usually those who would like to kick all Jews out and deport them to Israel. If all Jews of the World were living in Israel, these supporters would hope for an Iranian mass destruction weapon that wipes Israel out.

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Re: should i vote for these guys at the election
« Reply #24 on: May 05, 2010, 11:22:33 AM »
Normal Atheist we dont' support Neo Nazis or Nazis of any kind here on this site, openly or otherwise.