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Chabad Yeshiva Student Murdered in Kiev Ukraine!!!
« on: May 09, 2010, 06:45:09 PM »
Horrible news, Horrible news indeed!

The antisemitic hatred from the Ukraine never ceases, does it? This is from where my family emigrated to the United States, my fathers family from the Ukraine... It is sad that we are so poorly treated there, to this very day.




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Neo-Nazis Murder Yeshiva Student
Iyar 25, 5770, 09 May 10 12:26
by Tzvi Ben Gedalyahu

(Israelnationalnews.com) Ukraine police have found the mutilated body of Chabad-Lubavitch yeshiva student Aryeh Leib Misinzov, who disappeared in Kiev on April 20, the anniversary of Adolf Hitler’s birthday, when Neo-Nazis often carry out attacks on Jews.

Lubavitch Rabbi Yaakov Zilberman was called by police to identify the body, according to Chabad.info. “It was a horrific scene,” he said. The body, mutilated into nearly a dozen pieces, was found buried in a Kiev suburb.

Police have arrested the suspected leader of the gang that murdered Misinzov, but they have not announced whether they are treating the killing as an anti-Semitic crime.

The Chief Rabbi of Ukraine, Rabbi Moshe Reuven Asman, who was in Israel at the time of the murder, immediately returned to Kiev to refuse police requests that the burial be delayed, in violation of Jewish law. The body is to be flown to Israel for burial.

Anti-Semitism is rampant in the Ukraine, and after Hitler’s birthday, Chabad school principal Rabbi Mordechai Levenarts discovered graffiti, including “Happy Holocaust” and "Death to the Jews,” scrawled on the school’s walls. The same day was the evening of Israel’s Independence Day.

Two and a half years ago, an arsonist torched the school’s entrance.

In a separate incident last month, neo-Nazis damaged a display in Kiev’s Jewish museum.
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Re: Chabad Yeshiva Student Murdered in Kiev Ukraine!!!
« Reply #1 on: May 09, 2010, 06:52:18 PM »
How awful! 

Why would any Jew want to live in the Ukraine anyway? 

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Re: Chabad Yeshiva Student Murdered in Kiev Ukraine!!!
« Reply #2 on: May 09, 2010, 06:57:24 PM »
I wonder if it was a Muslim who murdered the Jewish boy.

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Re: Chabad Yeshiva Student Murdered in Kiev Ukraine!!!
« Reply #3 on: May 09, 2010, 07:01:25 PM »
I wonder if it was a Muslim who murdered the Jewish boy.

They are saying it was a neo-nazi, which implies to me a skinhead white nationalist... Which they have a problem with in Ukraine...

Also from Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiev

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According to the census, men accounted for 1,219,000 persons, or 46.7%, and women for 1,393,000 persons, or 53.3%. Comparing the results with the previous census (1989) shows the trend of population aging which, while prevalent throughout the country, is partly offset in Kiev by the inflow of working age migrants. According to the census data, more than 130 nationalities and ethnic groups reside within the territory of Kiev. Ukrainians constitute the largest ethnic group in Kiev, and they account for 2,110,800 people, or 82.2% of the population. Russians comprise 337,300 (13.1%), Jews 17,900 (0.7%), Belarusians 16,500 (0.6%), Poles 6,900 (0.3%), Armenians 4,900 (0.2%), Azerbaijanis 2,600 (0.1%), Tatars 2,500 (0.1%), Georgians 2,400 (0.1%), Moldovans 1,900 (0.1%). Both Ukrainian and Russian are commonly spoken in the city, with Russian being more widely used in the city centre despite the fact that Ukrainian is claimed as their native language by almost three times as many residents as those who claim Russian.[15] According to a 2006 survey, Ukrainian is used at home by 23% of Kievites, as 52% use Russian and 24% switch between both.[16] Some 1,069,700 people have higher or completed secondary education, a significant increase of 21.7% since 1989. The latest (April, 2007) municipal estimate of the city population is of 2.7 million residents.[1] Other much higher estimates are often published. For instance, the amount of bakery products sold in the city (thus including temporary visitors and commuters) gives a minimum of 3.5 million people (June, 2007).[1]
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Also : http://www.chabad.org/news/article_cdo/aid/1190146/jewish/Kiev-School-Struck-Again.htm

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A Jewish school in Kiev, Ukraine, is being forced to once again upgrade its security systems after unknown vandals spray-painted anti-Semitic curses and images in the middle of the night.

According to Devorah Levenharts, a Chabad-Lubavitch emissary whose husband, Rabbi Mordechai Levenarts, serves as principal of the Simcha School, staff arrived Tuesday morning to find the blue-colored graffiti on three exterior walls. The discovery came two-and-a-half years after an arsonist set fire to the school’s entryway, and two years after stones were thrown into classrooms and an on-site synagogue.

Local police opened a joint investigation with Israeli security officials, and Levenharts said that administrators will be expanding security measures in an effort to further protect students. She said that the children have been adjusting to the latest incident.

“We asked them to prepare posters to portray their reactions to what they saw,” said Levenharts, who oversees the Jewish studies’ curriculum and sends two of her children to the school. “Unfortunately, this is not something new.”

Last week, a group of neo-Nazis entered Kiev’s Jewish museum and shattered displays before continuing on to the Israeli embassy where they protested outside of the building, she added. “It is so important that people understand that the ideas we read about in history books are very much alive, right here.”
You shall make yourself the Festival of Sukkoth for seven days, when you gather in [the produce] from your threshing floor and your vat.And you shall rejoice in your Festival-you, and your son, and your daughter, and your manservant, and your maidservant, and the Levite, and the stranger, and the orphan, and the widow, who are within your cities
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Re: Chabad Yeshiva Student Murdered in Kiev Ukraine!!!
« Reply #4 on: May 09, 2010, 07:06:59 PM »
I wonder if it was a Muslim who murdered the Jewish boy.

They are saying it was a neo-nazi, which implies to me a skinhead white nationalist... Which they have a problem with in Ukraine...

Also from Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiev

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According to the census, men accounted for 1,219,000 persons, or 46.7%, and women for 1,393,000 persons, or 53.3%. Comparing the results with the previous census (1989) shows the trend of population aging which, while prevalent throughout the country, is partly offset in Kiev by the inflow of working age migrants. According to the census data, more than 130 nationalities and ethnic groups reside within the territory of Kiev. Ukrainians constitute the largest ethnic group in Kiev, and they account for 2,110,800 people, or 82.2% of the population. Russians comprise 337,300 (13.1%), Jews 17,900 (0.7%), Belarusians 16,500 (0.6%), Poles 6,900 (0.3%), Armenians 4,900 (0.2%), Azerbaijanis 2,600 (0.1%), Tatars 2,500 (0.1%), Georgians 2,400 (0.1%), Moldovans 1,900 (0.1%). Both Ukrainian and Russian are commonly spoken in the city, with Russian being more widely used in the city centre despite the fact that Ukrainian is claimed as their native language by almost three times as many residents as those who claim Russian.[15] According to a 2006 survey, Ukrainian is used at home by 23% of Kievites, as 52% use Russian and 24% switch between both.[16] Some 1,069,700 people have higher or completed secondary education, a significant increase of 21.7% since 1989. The latest (April, 2007) municipal estimate of the city population is of 2.7 million residents.[1] Other much higher estimates are often published. For instance, the amount of bakery products sold in the city (thus including temporary visitors and commuters) gives a minimum of 3.5 million people (June, 2007).[1]
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Also : http://www.chabad.org/news/article_cdo/aid/1190146/jewish/Kiev-School-Struck-Again.htm

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A Jewish school in Kiev, Ukraine, is being forced to once again upgrade its security systems after unknown vandals spray-painted anti-Semitic curses and images in the middle of the night.

According to Devorah Levenharts, a Chabad-Lubavitch emissary whose husband, Rabbi Mordechai Levenarts, serves as principal of the Simcha School, staff arrived Tuesday morning to find the blue-colored graffiti on three exterior walls. The discovery came two-and-a-half years after an arsonist set fire to the school’s entryway, and two years after stones were thrown into classrooms and an on-site synagogue.

Local police opened a joint investigation with Israeli security officials, and Levenharts said that administrators will be expanding security measures in an effort to further protect students. She said that the children have been adjusting to the latest incident.

“We asked them to prepare posters to portray their reactions to what they saw,” said Levenharts, who oversees the Jewish studies’ curriculum and sends two of her children to the school. “Unfortunately, this is not something new.”

Last week, a group of neo-Nazis entered Kiev’s Jewish museum and shattered displays before continuing on to the Israeli embassy where they protested outside of the building, she added. “It is so important that people understand that the ideas we read about in history books are very much alive, right here.”


It's usually the Muslims who hack people to death.  Maybe it's a Muslim in a Nazi group

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Re: Chabad Yeshiva Student Murdered in Kiev Ukraine!!!
« Reply #5 on: May 09, 2010, 07:10:43 PM »
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« Reply #6 on: May 09, 2010, 07:22:29 PM »

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It's usually the Muslims who hack people to death.  Maybe it's a Muslim in a Nazi group

Yes, that is a bizarre way to kill someone.. But I hope we find out for sure who it is so that they are punished, and justice may be served.

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Re: Chabad Yeshiva Student Murdered in Kiev Ukraine!!!
« Reply #7 on: May 09, 2010, 07:50:54 PM »
The Ukrainians are among some of the most savage and fiendish Nazis of all time.

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Re: Chabad Yeshiva Student Murdered in Kiev Ukraine!!!
« Reply #8 on: May 09, 2010, 07:54:48 PM »
How awful! 

Why would any Jew want to live in the Ukraine anyway? 

Cuz they're insane.
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« Reply #9 on: May 09, 2010, 08:00:14 PM »
How awful! 

Why would any Jew want to live in the Ukraine anyway? 

Cuz they're insane.

There is no justification for the way they are treated. I think that they could, and should get out while they can. Hashem was merciful to my family and we were able to avoid centuries of oppression in Ukraine.
You shall make yourself the Festival of Sukkoth for seven days, when you gather in [the produce] from your threshing floor and your vat.And you shall rejoice in your Festival-you, and your son, and your daughter, and your manservant, and your maidservant, and the Levite, and the stranger, and the orphan, and the widow, who are within your cities
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Re: Chabad Yeshiva Student Murdered in Kiev Ukraine!!!
« Reply #10 on: May 09, 2010, 08:11:25 PM »
This is terrible.  The Ukrainian Jews should move to Israel.
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Re: Chabad Yeshiva Student Murdered in Kiev Ukraine!!!
« Reply #11 on: May 09, 2010, 08:13:16 PM »
It's usually the Muslims who hack people to death.  Maybe it's a Muslim in a Nazi group

Neo-Nazi gangs have been known to be quite brutal. Espiecially Russian/Ukranian Neo-Nazis.

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« Reply #12 on: May 09, 2010, 10:10:52 PM »
It's usually the Muslims who hack people to death.  Maybe it's a Muslim in a Nazi group

Neo-Nazi gangs have been known to be quite brutal. Espiecially Russian/Ukranian Neo-Nazis.

I thought most of the time, these Neo Nazis set fires, or spray painted some stupid shittt.    If I were a Jew I would get the helll out of the Ukraine.  This is a really bad sign, seems like it's open season on Jews, in the year 2010.   The Ukranians always hated the Jews with a passion.

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Re: Chabad Yeshiva Student Murdered in Kiev Ukraine!!!
« Reply #13 on: May 09, 2010, 10:15:50 PM »
Here is what Wikipedia says on Ukraine Racial and Religious discrimination...



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism_and_discrimination_in_Ukraine

Race discrimination

Racially motivated attacks occur in Ukraine[8]  while police and courts do little to intervene, the Council of Europe said in a report made public February 2008 in Strasbourg.[9]  The report also expressed concern about attacks against rabbis and Jewish students, as well as the vandalism of synagogues, cemeteries and cultural centres. "However, criminal legislation against racially-motivated crimes has not been strengthened and the authorities have not yet adopted a comprehensive body of civil and administrative anti-discrimination laws", the body said. "There have been very few prosecutions against people who make anti-Semitic statements or publish anti-Semitic literature." Discrimination against the Roma community, continuing anti-Semitism, violence in Crimea[10][11] and other acts of intolerance against various ethnic groups in Ukraine were singled out in the report by the Council of Europe's racism-monitoring body, the European Commission against Racism and Intolerance.[12]

Skinhead violence against Tatars and Jews is also frequent and police have offered little protection to the different communities, it said. And ECRI asked Ukrainian authorities to step up efforts to fight violence by skinheads against Africans, Asians, and people from the Caucasus and the Middle East[13]  For instance: in December 2006 racist attacks on foreign students have been reported by the Council of Europe. The council stated that students where reluctant to report attacks because of police response to these attacks seemed to be inadequate.[9]  Many of these incidents are conducted by "skinheads" or neo-Nazis in Kiev, but similar crimes have also been reported throughout the country. In addition to incidents of assault[14], persons of African or Asian heritage may be subject to various types of harassment, such as being stopped on the street by both civilians and law enforcement officials. Individuals belonging to religious minorities have also been harassed and assaulted in Kiev and throughout Ukraine[15]

Ukraine does not currently have well established movements against illegal immigration or certain ethnic groups that are common in other former Soviet states. As a European country Ukraine is prone to outside influence from the neo-nazi and supremacist movements beyond its borders. For example, in areas of Southern Ukraine that have closer cultural and linguistic ties with Russia a number of neo-nazi groups resemble those in neighbouring Russia. [4]

Since 2005, nongovernmental (NGO) monitors in Ukraine have documented a dramatic rise in violent crimes with a suspected bias motivation. While incidents occurring in Kiev have been most accurately documented, there is evidence that incidents of violence are taking place throughout the country, including the cities of Cherkasy, Chernivtsi, Kharkiv, Luhansk, Lutsk, Lviv, Mykolaiv, Odessa, Sevastopol, Simferopol, Ternopil, Vinnytsia, and Zhytomyr.[16]

Representatives of the Ministry of Justice and Members of Ukrainian parliament stated that discrimination views and antisocial attitudes are practiced by a minority of the population, by fringe organizations, and by younger generation of Ukrainians; they say they are most alarmed by the younger Ukrainian's attitudes[17]. The fact that, during the 2007 parliamentary elections, the right wing parties espousing xenophobic and racist ideology received very little support from the electorate, also points to the unpopularity of such ideas among the general population.[4]

Bias-motivated violence has been largely committed against people of African and Asian origin, as well as people from the Caucasus and the Middle East.

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Discrimination against Jews

Further information: History of the Jews in Ukraine

As of April 2008, in total, 100 hate crimes were committed since January 2007. One of every five hate crimes in Ukraine since the start of last year was against the Jewish community, the country's security police reported. However, not known how much of those attacks were on a racial base.[21]

[6] Attacks on ethnic minorities are occurring in Ukraine at a record pace, according to the Union of Councils for the Jews in the Former Soviet Union.[21] Ukrainian Jews have been the object of some of the worst government-led persecutions in history, including Tsarist pogroms, Nazi genocide, and Stalin's antisemitic campaigns. The problem of antisemitism has remained despite massive immigration of Jews to Israel, Europe, and the United States following the disintegration of the Soviet Union. In recent years, Ukraine has seen a revival of anti-Jewish prejudice in the form of an increase of antisemitic attacks and incidents.[22]
You shall make yourself the Festival of Sukkoth for seven days, when you gather in [the produce] from your threshing floor and your vat.And you shall rejoice in your Festival-you, and your son, and your daughter, and your manservant, and your maidservant, and the Levite, and the stranger, and the orphan, and the widow, who are within your cities
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« Reply #14 on: May 09, 2010, 10:33:15 PM »
It would be nice to see a group of Jews in the Ukraine, pound on Ukranian Antisemites, to teach them a little lesson.

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« Reply #15 on: May 09, 2010, 10:36:20 PM »
It would be nice to see a group of Jews in the Ukraine, pound on Ukranian Antisemites, to teach them a little lesson.

Even more incredible: The Ukrainian Government has exhibited antisemitism..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism_and_discrimination_in_Ukraine

Anti-Semitism in the 2010 Presidential Campaign

During the Ukraine presidential elections of 2010-campaign candidates Arseniy Yatsenyuk and Yulia Tymoshenko where “accused” of being Jewish, in what appeared to be a smear campaign..[23]

Uzhhorod Mayor Serhiy Ratushniak, not previously known to be anti-Semitic[24], attacked Yatsenyuk on the grounds of his alleged Judaism. Ratushniak most notoriously stated that "Impudent Jew Yatsenyuk, who was successfully serving to thieves, who are at power in Ukraine, is using criminal money to plow ahead towards Ukraine’s presidency."[25] Ukrainian Jewish leaders retaliated against Ratushniak's anti-Semitic statements against Yatsenyuk, stating "All Ukrainian Jews are indignant at Ratushniak’s outrageous anti-Semitism and do not understand why the prosecutor general and the Interior Ministry remain silent on this matter".[26]. Vadim Rabinovich, president of the Ukrainian Jewish Congress, sent a letter to law enforcement agencies asking them to restrain Ratushniak. Going further, a lawsuit was filed against him on the grounds of "hooliganism, abuse of office and the violation of the racial and national equality of citizens, after allegedly using viciously anti-Semetic rhetoric and beating an agitator for one of the leading presidential candidates, who has an ethnically Jewish background."[27]

In August 2009, Ratushniak was alleged to have beaten a female campaigner for Yatseniuk.[28] A criminal case was soon opened against Ratushniak, he was accused of hooliganism, abuse of office and the violation of racial and national equality of citizens,[29] Ratushniak denied he was involved in the incident.[24][30]

The Ukrainian government did not comment nor defended Yatsenyuk, leading to international criticism from Jewish organizations.[31] Nonetheless, Ratushniak was allowed to continue his candidacy. Political commentators in Ukraine, such as Taras Kuzio, discouraged support for Yatsenyuk on the grounds that he would never win because of his Jewish roots and would be a wasted vote.[32]

Yatsenyuk was not the only candidate "accused" of Judaism: in fact, Tymoshenko was also referred to as "the Jewish woman with the braid" [33]. Unattributed leaflets referring to Tymoshenko as "a Jew" and calling not to vote for her appeared in mail boxes in Western Ukraine in the last week before the February 7, 2010 runoff vote of the election.[23]
You shall make yourself the Festival of Sukkoth for seven days, when you gather in [the produce] from your threshing floor and your vat.And you shall rejoice in your Festival-you, and your son, and your daughter, and your manservant, and your maidservant, and the Levite, and the stranger, and the orphan, and the widow, who are within your cities
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« Reply #16 on: May 09, 2010, 10:39:43 PM »
I don't know a lot of Ukranian Jews, I met some in Chicago once and they spoke some sort of Turkic language, they were from Crimea or something. I thought most had left Ukraine by now?

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« Reply #17 on: May 09, 2010, 10:42:18 PM »
I don't know a lot of Ukranian Jews, I met some in Chicago once and they spoke some sort of Turkic language, they were from Crimea or something. I thought most had left Ukraine by now?

I guess Jews are just stubborn and don't want to leave the lands where they grew up, no matter how bad it may be. This must be the explanation as Jews remain in virtually ever antisemitic country which we have lived. There are even Jews still in Yemen, and still in Germany, and still in Ukraine, and still in London... We are stiff necked in this way, and this is why we have so many problems... But this is not going to change, and I hope that I too make aliyah before it is too late...

You shall make yourself the Festival of Sukkoth for seven days, when you gather in [the produce] from your threshing floor and your vat.And you shall rejoice in your Festival-you, and your son, and your daughter, and your manservant, and your maidservant, and the Levite, and the stranger, and the orphan, and the widow, who are within your cities
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« Reply #18 on: May 09, 2010, 11:09:09 PM »
Ukrainians welcomed the Nazi Army as conquering heroes when Hitler invaded Russia.

They eventually came to hate the Nazis as much as the Stalinists, but that place has has always been an inferno for Jews.

I have to question Chabad's mental well-being in its declared intention to create a rebirth of Judaism and Torah Study in Ukraine, as well as in other places where Jews have always been murdered.

I just don't get it.   :'(


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« Reply #19 on: May 10, 2010, 06:21:21 AM »
I wonder if it was a Muslim who murdered the Jewish boy.

They are saying it was a neo-nazi, which implies to me a skinhead white nationalist... Which they have a problem with in Ukraine...

Also from Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiev

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According to the census, men accounted for 1,219,000 persons, or 46.7%, and women for 1,393,000 persons, or 53.3%. Comparing the results with the previous census (1989) shows the trend of population aging which, while prevalent throughout the country, is partly offset in Kiev by the inflow of working age migrants. According to the census data, more than 130 nationalities and ethnic groups reside within the territory of Kiev. Ukrainians constitute the largest ethnic group in Kiev, and they account for 2,110,800 people, or 82.2% of the population. Russians comprise 337,300 (13.1%), Jews 17,900 (0.7%), Belarusians 16,500 (0.6%), Poles 6,900 (0.3%), Armenians 4,900 (0.2%), Azerbaijanis 2,600 (0.1%), Tatars 2,500 (0.1%), Georgians 2,400 (0.1%), Moldovans 1,900 (0.1%). Both Ukrainian and Russian are commonly spoken in the city, with Russian being more widely used in the city centre despite the fact that Ukrainian is claimed as their native language by almost three times as many residents as those who claim Russian.[15] According to a 2006 survey, Ukrainian is used at home by 23% of Kievites, as 52% use Russian and 24% switch between both.[16] Some 1,069,700 people have higher or completed secondary education, a significant increase of 21.7% since 1989. The latest (April, 2007) municipal estimate of the city population is of 2.7 million residents.[1] Other much higher estimates are often published. For instance, the amount of bakery products sold in the city (thus including temporary visitors and commuters) gives a minimum of 3.5 million people (June, 2007).[1]
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A Jewish school in Kiev, Ukraine, is being forced to once again upgrade its security systems after unknown vandals spray-painted anti-Semitic curses and images in the middle of the night.

According to Devorah Levenharts, a Chabad-Lubavitch emissary whose husband, Rabbi Mordechai Levenarts, serves as principal of the Simcha School, staff arrived Tuesday morning to find the blue-colored graffiti on three exterior walls. The discovery came two-and-a-half years after an arsonist set fire to the school’s entryway, and two years after stones were thrown into classrooms and an on-site synagogue.

Local police opened a joint investigation with Israeli security officials, and Levenharts said that administrators will be expanding security measures in an effort to further protect students. She said that the children have been adjusting to the latest incident.

“We asked them to prepare posters to portray their reactions to what they saw,” said Levenharts, who oversees the Jewish studies’ curriculum and sends two of her children to the school. “Unfortunately, this is not something new.”

Last week, a group of neo-Nazis entered Kiev’s Jewish museum and shattered displays before continuing on to the Israeli embassy where they protested outside of the building, she added. “It is so important that people understand that the ideas we read about in history books are very much alive, right here.”


It's usually the Muslims who hack people to death.  Maybe it's a Muslim in a Nazi group

 nazis also hack people to death.  They have a kinship with muslims over their shared brutality towards humanity and especially toward Jews.   But it's not just Muslims.

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Re: Chabad Yeshiva Student Murdered in Kiev Ukraine!!!
« Reply #20 on: May 10, 2010, 06:23:50 AM »
I have to question Chabad's mental well-being in its declared intention to create a rebirth of Judaism and Torah Study in Ukraine, as well as in other places where Jews have always been murdered.

I just don't get it.   :'(



Agreed.  Not exactly a forward-thinking strategy.   And certainly ignores the nationalist aspects of Torah aside from common sense which also seems not part of this equation.

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Re: Chabad Yeshiva Student Murdered in Kiev Ukraine!!!
« Reply #21 on: May 10, 2010, 06:27:12 AM »
It would be nice to see a group of Jews in the Ukraine, pound on Ukranian Antisemites, to teach them a little lesson.

When a Jewish friend of mine was attacked verbally and threatened by a neo-nazi in the bathroom (my friend was wearing a kippa), my friend beat the stuffing out of him to the dismay of the guy's 3 neonazi friends who were gathered outside waiting to rejoice over the Jew getting beat up inside the bathroom... When they saw my friend walk out first without any bruises or injury and staring them down, they were shocked.   A tremendous kiddush Hashem (sanctification of G-d's name).   I don't remember if it was in Ukraine or czech republic.