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Offline ASHISH

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Muslims converts face ostracism in France
« on: May 12, 2007, 08:59:02 AM »
Muslims are converting to Christianity in their thousands in France but face exclusion from their families and even death threats.

Most Muslims hide their conversion and Protestant ministers do their utmost to protect new converts. It is estimated that every year in the world some six million Muslims convert to Christianity.

The Muezzin call to prayer. But here in France it is no longer reaching all Muslim ears.

Around 15,000 Muslims each year are converting to Christianity - around 10,000 to Catholicism and 5,000 to Protestantism.

It is often a difficult and painful choice - one that can leave them excluded from their Muslim families and friends.

Pastor Schluster knows what a real taboo conversion is in the Arab world. His job is to support converts by meeting them to reassure them and help them face the isolation from their families.

Pastor Antoine Schluster, official representative of Protestant Federation for New Convert Immigrants, said "True, a conversion is not easy for the Muslims whether they are practising or not. Simply because Islam influences their daily life. And therefore they immediately have a sense of betrayal."

Comedian Siad Oujibou used to pray five times a day but found his questions about death and his desire for a God closer to him than Allah moved him to convert. He is now a Christian pastor.

But he has faced many reprisals and humiliations from his family and was even under a sentence of death.

Said Oujibou, Protestant Pastor, comedian and convert, said "We are under this law if we change our faith. In certain countries would be condemned to death because we have converted. But I haven't changed my religion. I don't believe in religion, I believe in God. And God and religion are two very different things."

Many Muslims in France hide their conversion but the trend is continuing. World wide around six million Muslims a year convert to Christianity.

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Re: Muslims converts face ostracism in France
« Reply #1 on: May 12, 2007, 09:00:03 AM »
Looks like some hope is still left for europe :)

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Re: Muslims converts face ostracism in France
« Reply #2 on: May 12, 2007, 09:08:04 AM »
Not really.  The 15,000 is heavily offset by muslim newborns, muslim immigration, and converts to islam.  I wouldn't be surprised if the amount of converts FROM islam is offset by the amount of converts TO islam.  But this is still good news and I hope that more muslims discover who the real G-d is.
"The Jews will eventually have to face up to what you're dealing with here.  The arabs will never love you for what good you've brought them.  They don't know how to really love.  But hate!  Oh, G-d, can they hate!  And they have a deep, deep, deep resentment because you have jolted them from their delusions of grandeur and shown them for what they are-a decadent, savage people controlled by a religion that has stripped them of all human ambition . . . except for the few cruel enough and arrogant enough to command them as one commands a mob of sheep.  You are dealing with a mad society and you'd better learn how to control it."

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Re: Muslims converts face ostracism in France
« Reply #3 on: May 12, 2007, 10:45:23 AM »
I don't see it being a good thing if they are converting to catholicism.

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Re: Muslims converts face ostracism in France
« Reply #4 on: May 12, 2007, 10:51:20 AM »
I question how many of these conversions are sincere--i.e. if any of them are meant to fool the infidel into trust.

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Re: Muslims converts face ostracism in France
« Reply #5 on: May 12, 2007, 11:04:55 AM »
I reckon they are superficial but mainly on the terms that,
They want a high profession as a job and the only way you can acheive that in france is if you fully adapt and take off your burqa.


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Re: Muslims converts face ostracism in France
« Reply #6 on: May 12, 2007, 11:08:08 AM »
I figured as much. Sigh...

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Re: Muslims converts face ostracism in France
« Reply #7 on: May 12, 2007, 10:17:31 PM »
Looks like some hope is still left for europe :)



You have to be careful with these still yet....It may be a way of hiding within Christian communities and then to strike at the hearts of non-Muslims... Muslims have been known for lying...

I'll see it when i beleive it if theya re truely converting.
If someone says something bad about you, say something nice about them. That way, both of you would be lying.

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Re: Muslims converts face ostracism in France
« Reply #8 on: May 15, 2007, 12:39:44 PM »
I agree with some extent to what you said but when huge masses of thousands are invloved, a lie unless unlooked upon would not be able to survive. I reckon these things happen anyway and just because we are exposed to a 4 digit figures, it seems a lot.