What should be done with trolls?

[IsraeliGovtAreKapos]

What do you think should be done with trolls or Nazis (like Skkie) /Communists (like the Lefties in the Hebrew forum) /dumba$$es (like Ben)?

They spread their unwanted ideology in the forum, slash and split JTFers with other JTFers and ruin the unique Unity the Jewish Task Force posseses - people with different views can still work out the differences for a common goal. I don't think we need scum like Skkie, Ben Mizrahi and others on our forum.

I know Chaim's position on this but I want to hear the member's opinion on this.

[JTFenthusiast2]

I don't know enough about anyone in Particular to make this claim, but I think it's an essential questionto ask, so I'm with you on this one 100 %

[AsheDina]

NOTHING.
They are not trolls, Chaim said to debate without calling people names.
We have been banning everyone for almost 2 years, and because of that, we have a BORING forum.

Chaim said that nobody is supposed to be banned unless it is TERRIBLE, and they have done nothing 'terrible.'

[Spiraling Leopard]

In cases of obese stupidity and inproductivity, I say ban them.

[TruthSpreader]

Unless they provide a useful argument, they should be banned.

[Rubystars]

We're never going to be able to grow into anything but a social group unless we let in people who disagree to make their case and we can make ours.

[AsheDina]

I agree Ruby.

I still say that this has become a TOTALLY BORING forum, we ban EVERYONE. Its stupid.

[Fighting For Truth]

Chaim did say that he doesn't want to do any banning anymore unless it is actually serious. He might ban people who post pictures or anything that will disgust, shock and bother people in a twisted evil way for example, but when it comes to people who do not agree with each other here then he won't do that.

[Lisa]

Disagreeing is one thing.  Saying we have to take into account the feelings of neo-Nazis because they're human beings is a completely different story. 

[IsraeliGovtAreKapos]

Disagreeing is one thing.  Saying we have to take into account the feelings of neo-Nazis because they're human beings is a completely different story. 

That is being Nazi

[JTFenthusiast2]

Ron,

How is what Lisa said "being Nazi?"  You should not be so flip in addressing Lisa who does a GREAT deal to keep this forum harmonious and decent

[muman613]

Ron,

How is what Lisa said "being Nazi?"  You should not be so flip in addressing Lisa who does a GREAT deal to keep this forum harmonious and decent

JTFEnthusiast,

I read his statement as a comment that to consider Nazis human beings is to be a Nazi...

[IsraeliGovtAreKapos]

Ron,

How is what Lisa said "being Nazi?"  You should not be so flip in addressing Lisa who does a GREAT deal to keep this forum harmonious and decent

I was talking about

Saying we have to take into account the feelings of neo-Nazis because they're human beings

Not about Lisa

[JTFenthusiast2]

Ron,

How is what Lisa said "being Nazi?"  You should not be so flip in addressing Lisa who does a GREAT deal to keep this forum harmonious and decent

JTFEnthusiast,

I read his statement as a comment that to consider Nazis human beings is to be a Nazi...

Sorry then, my apologies, my mistake.

[Dr. Dan]

If there is a poster intending on a dishonest debate, get rid of him. No nazis allowed. That's the first thing.

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

Ban the queers.

[Zelhar]

I think Dan Ben Noah has a good idea with the dishonorable member rank.

Trolling of all kinds should be banned because it is a disruption to anyone who genuinely seeks intelligent discussion.

Otherwise I'd let anyone in as long as he is not deliberately trying to disrupt, incite, or post obscenities- be they porn pics or expressions of sympathy to Hitler.

[Zelhar]

I just want to add that there are certain types of posts that we must not tolerate here even if the poster is not exactly a troll by definition nor an avowed nazi- the type "Ben M" has been able to repeatedly produce. I think it can potentially harm the movement if we allow a member to repeatedly express sympathy and compassion to Nazism, and categorical racism.

Can you imagine how our enemies can make us look if they make a hit job article against us (which is a very real possibility in Israel) ? They could make us look like a Jewish KKlan.

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

I just want to add that there are certain types of posts that we must not tolerate here even if the poster is not exactly a troll by definition nor an avowed nazi- the type "Ben M" has been able to repeatedly produce. I think it can potentially harm the movement if we allow a member to repeatedly express sympathy and compassion to Nazism, and categorical racism.

Can you imagine how our enemies can make us look if they make a hit job article against us (which is a very real possibility in Israel) ? They could make us look like a Jewish KKlan.

This is exactly what Pedofront already claims about Jews in general, even such laughable "movements" as AIPAC and the GayDL. They say Jews are "racial" (lol) or tribal supremacists who view themselves as a master race and the goyim (and "whites" in particular) as subhumans. Isn't it interesting how every single attribute that Nazi or Muslim stereotypes put on Jews are only true of the Nazis themselves?

[nessuno]

I agree Ruby.

I still say that this has become a TOTALLY BORING forum, we ban EVERYONE. Its stupid.

I agree. 

[Zelhar]

I just want to add that there are certain types of posts that we must not tolerate here even if the poster is not exactly a troll by definition nor an avowed nazi- the type "Ben M" has been able to repeatedly produce. I think it can potentially harm the movement if we allow a member to repeatedly express sympathy and compassion to Nazism, and categorical racism.

Can you imagine how our enemies can make us look if they make a hit job article against us (which is a very real possibility in Israel) ? They could make us look like a Jewish KKlan.

This is exactly what Pedofront already claims about Jews in general, even such laughable "movements" as AIPAC and the GayDL. They say Jews are "racial" (lol) or tribal supremacists who view themselves as a master race and the goyim (and "whites" in particular) as subhumans. Isn't it interesting how every single attribute that Nazi or Muslim stereotypes put on Jews are only true of the Nazis themselves?

I was aiming more to the experience we had in Israel. As you may know Roni Hanazi posted insane Nazi material at chazit's forum. Haaretz used his posts to make a hit job against Kahinsts in general and specifically against Hayamin (even though Chaim had done everything possible to extinguish the Nazi posts).

Now granted that Ben M's posts are not as extreme and as Roni's, but they still provide, IMO, a enough material to be used against us. I think the forum administration should at least, formally disassociate itself from his views.

[Spiraling Leopard]

I think he should just be banned.
This idiot does only harm.

[mord]

I say we keep them but for certain cases we develop the "Dishonorable Member" rank, which would only have access to one board known as the "Time Out Corner".  All members would have access to the Time Out Corner, but Dishonorable Members could only post there and not on other boards.  The symbol indicating the Dishonorable Member could be a Star & Fist with the fist giving the thumbs down.

I like that idea

[Ben m]

What do you think should be done with trolls or Nazis (like Skkie) /Communists (like the Lefties in the Hebrew forum) /dumba$$es (like Ben)?

They spread their unwanted ideology in the forum, slash and split JTFers with other JTFers and ruin the unique Unity the Jewish Task Force posseses - people with different views can still work out the differences for a common goal. I don't think we need scum like Skkie, Ben Mizrahi and others on our forum.

I know Chaim's position on this but I want to hear the member's opinion on this.

1)  i didn't saw any evidence that suggest that skkie is a nazi.you ron are saying it too much often.
2) i agree we should ban the leftists on the hebrew forum but this is an issue for the hebrew forum and should not be discussed here.
3) i never was an [censored] as you put it.
4) this is for everyone thinkning i am a pr nightmare.you guys will be slammed without connection to my views.they are concerned only about chaim.
5) and yes we should debate with trolls unless they are leftists.

[Spiraling Leopard]

4) this is for everyone thinkning i am a pr nightmare.you guys will be slammed without connection to my views.
5) and yes we should debate with trolls unless they are leftists.

4) Right. We were doing pretty well before you were here. You, like all leftists, are a universal irrelevance.
5) All trolls are leftists. Nazi's, communists, muslims and mental cases are always leftists.