Stop Supporting Rand Paul (Video Proof of his anti-Israel stance)

[Maimonides]

To all the Rand Paul supporters, I understand why you want to support Rand Paul because he is an outsider and you are sick of the corrupt insiders in both the Republican and Democratic party, but understand that Rand Paul is just a more clever version of his father Ron Paul.

Here he is asked point blank, whether will he stand with Israel!! He REFUSES to say YES!!!

His response is a typical open ended political answer that leaves him plenty of wiggle room to oppose Israel. Rand Paul goes further and tries to separate Israel's interests from America's interests. A true Israel supporter knows that what is in Israel's interests is ALWAYS in America's interests.

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[TheCoon]

America should come first for Americans. Israel first for Israelis. And no, the interests of Israel are not always the same as America, though they usually are.

[Maimonides]

America should come first for Americans. Israel first for Israelis. And no, the interests of Israel are not always the same as America, though they usually are.

Where do Israel's interests conflict with America?

America should be for Israel, because it simply is in America's interest. The fact that Rand Paul cannot say this, but gives an equivocating response shows that he is NOT a sincere supporter of Israel!

[Moshe92]

By the way, Rand Paul supports Iran's nuclear program. I think that Ron and Rand Paul are patriots. It's just that they're Saudi and Iranian patriots.

[Ulli]

Maimonides is right here. Rand Paul sneaks like a cat around the hot oatmeal. For me this behaviour looks not very trustfully.

[eb22]

America should come first for Americans. Israel first for Israelis. And no, the interests of Israel are not always the same as America, though they usually are.

I partially agree with you.     In my opinion though,    America's future depends on America being supportive of Israel.  ( Genesis 12:3)    But not in the manner of the U.S. GOVERNMENT providing Israel foreign aid.        America shouldn't aid Israel's enemies  ( which in reality are America's enemies ) internally or externally.  .The best thing the United States can do is cut off foreign aid to all countries and not stand in Israel's way to deal with its enemies.          

[New Yorker]

No one is 100% perfect. But in the choices we have for congress, Rand Paul is far ahead of the others in his politics and the best choice for America among the bunch, he is a Conservative Constitutionalist. Undermine Rand Paul because of one or two points you don't like, and you are going to get one of those other jokers elected, and like that piece of work Obama, you're going to get what you deserve!

[Maimonides]

No one is 100% perfect. But in the choices we have for congress, Rand Paul is far ahead of the others in his politics and the best choice for America among the bunch, he is a Conservative Constitutionalist. Undermine Rand Paul because of one or two points you don't like, and you are going to get one of those other jokers elected, and like that piece of work Obama, you're going to get what you deserve!

This is not one or two issues like abortion or taxes. This is the #1 issue here at JTF. Rand Paul is dangerous, because he will make anti-Israel stances mainstream in the conservative-wing of the GOP.

[briann]

To all the Rand Paul supporters, I understand why you want to support Rand Paul because he is an outsider and you are sick of the corrupt insiders in both the Republican and Democratic party, but understand that Rand Paul is just a more clever version of his father Ron Paul.

Here he is asked point blank, whether will he stand with Israel!! He REFUSES to say YES!!!

His response is a typical open ended political answer that leaves him plenty of wiggle room to oppose Israel. Rand Paul goes further and tries to separate Israel's interests from America's interests. A true Israel supporter knows that what is in Israel's interests is ALWAYS in America's interests.

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I've been listening to all his recent speeches about Israel, and they are all pro-Israel, and anti-islam.   But yes, he is a typical politician, and will do double-talk whenever its to his advantage.

[Rubystars]

Yeah don't let your cat stick its paw in the oatmeal, that cat's paw has just been in its litterbox.  Great analogy Ulli

I don't trust Rand Paul.

[MassuhDGoodName]

Maimonides:  "This is the #1 issue here at JTF. Rand Paul is dangerous, because he will make anti-Israel stances mainstream in the conservative-wing of the GOP."

My reply is an impersonal one and not a personal attack on a JTF member.

First of all, there are no "conservatives" in the GOP.

Not any more.

Not by a long shot.

Haven't been any since Barry Goldwater passed on.

Unless by "conservative" you mean someone who parrots propaganda about "Democrats destroying America and being purely evil", " 'W' being the greatest President and a real Christian", "Reagan being the 'Founder of Freedom' who defeated the Soviet Union", "Newt Gingrich will save America", and other falsehoods etc....

And, as far as "anti-Israel stances mainstream in the GOP" -- HELLO!

The GOP has been the leading proponent and enforcer of what was the Soviet Politburo of the USSR's Official Middle East Policy -- The arming and training of PLO/Nazi Terrorists, together with financing and supporting a prolonged War of Attrition against the State of Israel.

The GOP has trained and armed the PLO and Hamas to the teeth, turning a blind eye to the unending and ongoing terrorist attacks against Jews both in Israel and worldwide being committed with weapons and training supplied by Washington.

The Republicans have and will continuing to send literally billions of dollars to support Hamas in Gaza and the PLO in Gaza and Ramallah.

Bush called for the division of Eretz Yisrael and the establishment of a PLO State by the end of his first year in office.

The Republicans have provided the Saudis Secret Service Protection, complete with private mercenary army protecting ALL of them and their holdings here in Washington, before, during, and after 9/11.....continuing to the present day.

I am at a loss to understand how anyone at JTF still refuses to see that both parties in America long ago abandoned American Jews.

Every four years both parties work every ploy imaginable to "dupe" the gullible American Jews into believing that a vote cast for them is a vote cast FOR Israel and the Jews.

What a farce.

As regards Rand Paul, I know very little.

That being stated, I have to question how is it that American Jews are still living in denial; convinced that a vote for the GOP and a Palin or Gingrich or Romney will save America, Jews, and Israel.

American Jews' remaining days here are numbered because "America" as we once knew and loved her no longer exists.

The "America" of today long ago dumped the Jews in obeisance to those who now own and control the U.S.A. -- the Islamic Oil Sheiks and the Chinese Communist Party.

EVERYONE, except for the majority of American Jews, knows this to be true.

Even if someone is a better choice than Paul, once in office they will demand division of Israel, recognize a PLO/Hamas State, and call for nuclear disarmament of Israel.

In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is King

[Ari Ben-Canaan]

Chaim supports the Democrat in Rand Paul's district.  Rand Paul is no Conservative.

[muman613]

In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is King

The One-Eyed Saudi King

[eb22]

MassuhDGoodName,  as I'm sure you recall,    we discussed this subject to some extent last month in the thread.   I'm posting the link to that thread to make it easier for us to continue the discussion:


http://jtf.org/forum_english/index.php/topic,45083.0.html


While I agree with some of what you mentioned and greatly respect your opinions on all topics,   here's a question I'm interested in your input:


Lets assume for discussion sake that either Rev. Pat Robertson or  Rev. John Hagee became President of the United States,   do you believe they would betray Israel in the manner that you described with other Republicans? 


After I get your input,   I plan on adding an additional comment to what you expressed previously in this thread.

[TheCoon]

Chaim supports the Democrat in Rand Paul's district.  Rand Paul is no Conservative.

A poor decision in my opinion. Voting for a democrat is worse than Rand Paul.

[eb22]

Chaim supports the Democrat in Rand Paul's district.  Rand Paul is no Conservative.

A poor decision in my opinion. Voting for a democrat is worse than Rand Paul.

If I lived in Kentucky,   I very likely would support Lisa Graas'  line of thinking:


http://genuinegopmom.blogspot.com/2010/05/who-am-i-voting-for-in-november.html

Who Am I Voting for in November?
12:45:00 AM Posted by Lisa Graas
 
Lots of folks are asking me who I plan to vote for in November. I'm being patient. Several people have contacted me via email expressing a strong interest in running as a write-in candidate. I have no doubt that there will be a candidate for United States Senate for whom I can vote. That's really all I ask for; a candidate for whom I can vote and feel good about it. It's my solemn duty to vote in the election and I can't see myself voting for either Rand Paul or Jack Conway. I've no worries at all about that, though.  There will undoubtedly be a candidate for whom I can vote, and it won't be Jack Conway or Rand Paul.

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

Maimonides is right here. Rand Paul sneaks like a cat around the hot oatmeal. For me this behaviour looks not very trustfully.

I still don't get why so many on this forum have fallen for Rand's taqqiyah.

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

A poor decision in my opinion. Voting for a democrat is worse than Rand Paul.

How do you figure? A Democrat will at least be an honest leftist and not perform taqqiyah, and will be vigorously resisted.

[TheCoon]

A poor decision in my opinion. Voting for a democrat is worse than Rand Paul.

How do you figure? A Democrat will at least be an honest leftist and not perform taqqiyah, and will be vigorously resisted.

There's nothing redeeming about the democrats. They're the party of muslim appeasement, hating Israel, hating America and now openly destroying America through overt socialism. Even if you believe Rand Paul is an anti-Semite, he's far better than voting for a democrat. At least Rand Paul has domestic policies that are good for America.

America has an honest leftist in the white house and America is almost past the point of no return in destruction.

[Maimonides]

A poor decision in my opinion. Voting for a democrat is worse than Rand Paul.

How do you figure? A Democrat will at least be an honest leftist and not perform taqqiyah, and will be vigorously resisted.

There's nothing redeeming about the democrats. They're the party of muslim appeasement, hating Israel, hating America and now openly destroying America through overt socialism. Even if you believe Rand Paul is an anti-Semite, he's far better than voting for a democrat. At least Rand Paul has domestic policies that are good for America.

America has an honest leftist in the white house and America is almost past the point of no return in destruction.

What makes you think Rand Paul won't institute leftist policies?

Some of the most damaging leaders are those from the phony right, who implement leftists policies with no to little resistance from the right.

Rand Paul if elected will be under tremendous pressure to flip-flop on all his "Right-wing" positions, because of the civil rights comment he made. Paul already has had to back track on that comment. IF he gets elected he will then have to show he is not a "racist" for his libertarian positions when it comes to civil rights.

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

They're the party of muslim appeasement, hating Israel, hating America and now openly destroying America through overt socialism.

All things that the Paul dynasty excels at.

[Ulli]

Yeah don't let your cat stick its paw in the oatmeal, that cat's paw has just been in its litterbox.  Great analogy Ulli

I don't trust Rand Paul.

Thank you Ruby. 

[Ari Ben-Canaan]

Maybe I am crazy, but I would vote for any Johnny Leftist over other candidates as long as he would vote against Muslims and their interests 100% [in this day and age].  Islam is the #1 political interest for me.

[TheCoon]

His family has a history of at least being somewhat constitutionalist. America needs to get back to basing its laws and policies off the constitution instead of the works of Karl Marx. Yes, his father is an evil piece of garbage but chances are, even Ron Paul would be better than the muslim president Obama. Even if Rand Paul were president one day, he can't possibly be more anti-Israel than Obama and his muslim-loving cronies.

I simply think Rand Paul is the lesser of two evils when compared to a democrat, any democrat.

[mord]

Why do you think he was named Rand it's after Ayn Rand a good pro Israel Jewish woman