Huckabee and Daniels feud over abortion and homosexual "marriage"

[Chaim Ben Pesach]

בס''ד

Indiana Governor Mitch Daniels proposes that Republicans should no longer be pro-life or against homosexual "marriage". Daniels says Republicans should only be concerned with economic issues.

Former Governor Mike Huckabee of Arkansas has criticized Daniels for proposing this. Huckabee insists that Republicans must work to end abortion and to preserve traditional marriage.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0610/38419.html

[eb22]

Chaim,    interesting I was planning on asking your opinion on an upcoming "  Ask JTF"  program about Mitch Daniels,    much like I have already with a number of other potential 2012 Republican Presidential candidates.     This article basically answering my question about Daniels.    He's now far down on the list of my preferred choices.    I'm glad to see that Mike Huckabee is taking a strong stand on these extremely important social issues,    that can't be compromised.   

[TheCoon]

I would give up homosexual marriage as an issue, but not abortion. Economic conservatism is extremely important for America's long term survival. If America's economy collapses, everything else will mean nothing because the country will fall apart. America is on that road right now. As a Canadian, I don't want to have to pick up a broken America nor see the result of a total collapse.

[eb22]

thunderbolt,    I respect your concerns.     I've been Canada more than the vast majority of people born in the U.S.  and have met many great people on my trips.     The Canadian Rockies and Newfoundland are especially places that I enjoyed my visits.     One pet peeve of mine over the years is VERY little is taught about Canada in American public schools.      Basically,   with the exception of a week or two of learning about Canada in the 5th grade,    I was never taught anything about Canada during my years in public schools.      I learned everything on my own,   including on the trips I took.     

My concern is if the U.S. doesn't eliminate Homosexual marriage and civil unions,    the country is at great risk to be a modern day Sodom and Gomorrah.     If that happened,    no economic recovery plan would matter.     Canada would certainly feel the adverse affects if such a scenario would occur.

[Chaim Ben Pesach]

I would give up homosexual marriage as an issue, but not abortion. Economic conservatism is extremely important for America's long term survival. If America's economy collapses, everything else will mean nothing because the country will fall apart. America is on that road right now. As a Canadian, I don't want to have to pick up a broken America nor see the result of a total collapse.

בס''ד

If America allows homosexual marriage, G-d will destroy this once great nation. That is why I am pleased that on this issue, Governor Huckabee seems to understand the grave moral and spiritual implications.

[TruthSpreader]

Chaim is right. Homosexuality is against God's will and he will destroy this country if it contiunes to happen.

[TheCoon]

Canada has allowed homosexual "marriages" and we're doing far better nowadays than the US. I think there's a disconnect between recognizing homosexual unions and the Biblical Sodom and Gamorrah. We're talking about nations that used homosexual rape as established practice. If you're that worried about homo marriage, you would NEED to have some kind of religious police make sure people don't get into homosexual relationships in the first place. That is, if its so important that it will bring about the destruction of a nation to even legitimize that behavior.

I don't agree at all with homosexual marriage and I do think its an abomination, but I don't think its anywhere on the level of abortion(legal murder of babies) and the future destruction of America's economy due to socialist economic principles and

Doomsday will not come from a foreign invader or attack. It will come if America doesn't wake up and stop spending insanely, give up socialism and pay down its debt. I don't think people realize how horrible it would be with a total collapse of the US economy and China, the muslims, etc owning whats left of the country.

[TheCoon]

Chaim is right. Homosexuality is against G-d's will and he will destroy this country if it contiunes to happen.

If its this important then you need to delegitimize homosexual behavior in general, not just "gay marriage". I don't think anyone is willing to step up and do that, so in my opinion we need to focus on making America fiscally conservative so that it survives the next 20 years.

[Ben m]

I would give up homosexual marriage as an issue, but not abortion. Economic conservatism is extremely important for America's long term survival. If America's economy collapses, everything else will mean nothing because the country will fall apart. America is on that road right now. As a Canadian, I don't want to have to pick up a broken America nor see the result of a total collapse.

i would do the opposite.i would allow abortion but would make homosexuality a criminal offence.

[muman613]

America cannot sanction Homosexual marriage... Recognizing such a forbidden relationship will be the undoing of America. Canda was never blessed like America was. Canada, as much as it is nice, has never been a world power like America has. Allowing these immoral relationships and pretending they are 'legal' is a big joke in the face of Hashem.

Please continue to vote against the homosexual agenda..

[eb22]

America cannot sanction Homosexual marriage... Recognizing such a forbidden relationship will be the undoing of America. Canda was never blessed like America was. Canada, as much as it is nice, has never been a world power like America has. Allowing these immoral relationships and pretending they are 'legal' is a big joke in the face of Hashem.

Please continue to vote against the homosexual agenda..

We have the same line of thinking on this critical issue.


Regarding Canada,    the substantial increase in the Muslim population could easily be an indicator that Canada is being punished as a result of the government allowing homosexual marriages.     With the worst yet to come if the country stays on its current course.   The more a government legitimizes homosexual marriages and civil unions,    the more likely more people in the general population will go down this path.     


For me,  when making a decision on which candidates to support,    the most important issues are core issues of the bible.     I want people with strong bibical convictions as the elected officials.     With that foundation,    there's a good chance everything else will fall into place.


One other thought for now.     I hope that people who are involved in homosexual behavior get help and are cured.

[TheCoon]

It kills me that we already allow homosexuals to embrace and show their love in public, yet people are so focused on stopping them from getting a piece of paper. I hate to tell you, but God's not gonna come down and smite America over this. If it were gonna happen, he'd have done it already for the simple fact most Americans accept homosexuality already as an acceptable lifestyle.

America WILL kill itself if it doesn't pay down its debt, become fiscally responsible and reject the communist/socialist disease. Who do you think is buying American debt? Enemies of America.

[Ari Ben-Canaan]

God did not write a book and pass it out to the Jewish people and say, "so what do you guys think?  whats a keeper?"

Homosexuality is an abomination [Gods words not mine] and should not be sanctioned by the government in any facet.  I think its sickening when alternative sexual lifestyles are displayed in television shows, or I see posters endorsing homosexuality around Los Angeles.

[TheCoon]

It's already legitimized by the government. That's the point I'm trying to make.

[Ari Ben-Canaan]

It's already legitimized by the government. That's the point I'm trying to make.

That is an error not to be endorsed.

[Zionist Revolutionary]

Thunderbolt, there is a fatal flaw in your argument.

G-d demands more from leaders. Not just leaders in humans, but leaders in nations. The United States, as the only Superpower, is expected more of by G-d. A country like Canada, who has never been a Great Britain or Soviet Union or United States of America has no sway over the world. Canada isn't in a leadership position like the United States is.

Because G-d demands more from leaders, if the US falters on this issue, the retaliation will be worse than for Canada.

[Chaim Ben Pesach]

Canada has allowed homosexual "marriages" and we're doing far better nowadays than the US. I think there's a disconnect between recognizing homosexual unions and the Biblical Sodom and Gamorrah. We're talking about nations that used homosexual rape as established practice. If you're that worried about homo marriage, you would NEED to have some kind of religious police make sure people don't get into homosexual relationships in the first place. That is, if its so important that it will bring about the destruction of a nation to even legitimize that behavior.

I don't agree at all with homosexual marriage and I do think its an abomination, but I don't think its anywhere on the level of abortion(legal murder of babies) and the future destruction of America's economy due to socialist economic principles and

Doomsday will not come from a foreign invader or attack. It will come if America doesn't wake up and stop spending insanely, give up socialism and pay down its debt. I don't think people realize how horrible it would be with a total collapse of the US economy and China, the muslims, etc owning whats left of the country.

בס''ד

Canada will also face destruction for the evil and immoral policies that it has enacted.

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

i would do the opposite.i would allow abortion but would make homosexuality a criminal offence.

You are sick

[Ben m]

i would do the opposite.i would allow abortion but would make homosexuality a criminal offence.

You are sick

and what make you think so? and i also think that chaim told you to step aside and stop feuding with me in the ask jtf program.

[Irish Zionist]

i would do the opposite.i would allow abortion but would make homosexuality a criminal offence.

You are sick

and what make you think so? and i also think that chaim told you to step aside and stop feuding with me in the ask jtf program.

Saying that you support killing an innocent baby. WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU?

[Ben m]

i would do the opposite.i would allow abortion but would make homosexuality a criminal offence.

You are sick

and what make you think so? and i also think that chaim told you to step aside and stop feuding with me in the ask jtf program.

Saying that you support killing an innocent baby. WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU?

did you ever heard about theright to use your body in any mean you want to.at the pregnancy stage the baby is still part of the woman body therefore she can choose to remove him at any time.

[IsraeliGovtAreKapos]

i would do the opposite.i would allow abortion but would make homosexuality a criminal offence.

You are sick

and what make you think so? and i also think that chaim told you to step aside and stop feuding with me in the ask jtf program.

Saying that you support killing an innocent baby. WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU?

and 3 million more babies by his Nazi lovers.

[IsraeliGovtAreKapos]

i would do the opposite.i would allow abortion but would make homosexuality a criminal offence.

You are sick

and what make you think so? and i also think that chaim told you to step aside and stop feuding with me in the ask jtf program.

Saying that you support killing an innocent baby. WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU?

did you ever heard about theright to use your body in any mean you want to.at the pregnancy stage the baby is still part of the woman body therefore she can choose to remove him at any time.

He's already a living entity and undoubtly by "removing" him she destroys his chance to live as a complete human being.

[Irish Zionist]

i would do the opposite.i would allow abortion but would make homosexuality a criminal offence.

You are sick

and what make you think so? and i also think that chaim told you to step aside and stop feuding with me in the ask jtf program.

Saying that you support killing an innocent baby. WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU?

did you ever heard about theright to use your body in any mean you want to.at the pregnancy stage the baby is still part of the woman body therefore she can choose to remove him at any time.

Even more sick. At anytime? Even when the baby is almost fully grown?

[Ben m]

i would do the opposite.i would allow abortion but would make homosexuality a criminal offence.

You are sick

and what make you think so? and i also think that chaim told you to step aside and stop feuding with me in the ask jtf program.

Saying that you support killing an innocent baby. WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU?

did you ever heard about theright to use your body in any mean you want to.at the pregnancy stage the baby is still part of the woman body therefore she can choose to remove him at any time.

Even more sick. At anytime? Even when the baby is almost fully grown?

of course not.it is to dangerous to remove him after a certain amount of time and it is inhuman toward the unborn baby.