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Eitam: Israel Must Say the Truth, Transfer is Only Way
« on: September 20, 2006, 01:43:32 PM »
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/news.php3?id=112412

Eitam: Israel Must Say the Truth, Transfer is Only Way
18:31 Sep 20, '06 / 27 Elul 5766
by Ezra HaLevi



MK Effie Eitam (National Union-NRP) has repeated his call for the State of Israel to consider the transfer of hostile Arabs from Judea and Samaria.

Speaking with Army Radio's Razi Barkai Wednesday morning, Eitam was asked to explain his terming Israeli Arabs a "fifth column" and his call for Israel to encourage the transfer of PA Arabs from Judea and Samaria.

"Look, in the wake of this war, the people of Israel need to begin to say the truth," Eitam said. "The deceptive myths must end. The myth that we can abandon territory without it becoming a launching ground for attacks on us and the myth that this struggle is over the outcome of the [1967] Six Day War.

"The days of viewing our territory as a check book - through which we can buy off the rejection of our existence here - have ended. We therefore must be honest with ourselves - if we can't give the land away and we can't keep the land with this hostile nation upon it - we must encourage them to emigrate."

Eitam said he was coming from a recent trip to the United States, where he discussed his ideas with Attorney General John Ashcroft. Eitam said Ashcroft was very receptive to the ideas, due to the lessons of September 11th. "The assertion that the world will not allow transfer to occur is another deception," Eitam said

After the Eitam interview concluded, Barkai brought former Meretz chairman Yossi Sarid on the air, and asked him whether he did not share Eitam's concern for the future of the Jewish state. Sarid said that he was not sure what scared him more, the threats facing Israel or Eitam's worldview.

Sarid compared Eitam's statements to those of Neo-Nazi and fascist politicians in Europe. "If they would say those things we would object, so we must object when Eitam says them," Sarid posited.

Barkai posited that Israel's situation may be different, since the population in question is seeking the destruction of the very state itself.
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Re: Eitam: Israel Must Say the Truth, Transfer is Only Way
« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2006, 01:54:39 PM »
Eitam appears to be a lone voice of sanity in the Knesset.

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Re: Eitam: Israel Must Say the Truth, Transfer is Only Way
« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2006, 02:03:13 PM »
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Sarid compared Eitam's statements to those of Neo-Nazi and fascist politicians in Europe. "If they would say those things we would object, so we must object when Eitam says them," Sarid posited.

i wonder if sarid would agree to have an arab PM in Israel.. hmm.. think he wouldnt object it.


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Re: Eitam: Israel Must Say the Truth, Transfer is Only Way
« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2006, 05:20:56 PM »



If only the attitude of Jews toward Arabs was the attitude of Russians toward Chechens...




Russians run migrants from town in race violence
By James Kilner
Reuters, September 15, 2006
http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=inDepthNews&storyid=2006-09-15T123229Z_01_L10363806_RTRUKOC_0_US-RUSSIA-RACE.xml&WTmodLoc=NewsArt-R2-Today-5

Kondopoga, Russia (Reuters) -- Dozens of wrecked market stalls rot in the rain and a restaurant stands burned and looted, its windows boarded up.

This is the scene of Russia's latest explosion of race violence in which, for the first time, an alliance of locals and Moscow-based extremists appears to have driven almost an entire ethnic group from a town.

Three dark-skinned men from the Caucasus region interviewed by Reuters in Kondopoga, near the Finnish border, said there had been 150 migrants in the town before the violence. Fewer than two dozen remain.

'If things don't improve, we'll have to leave too. And we don't think they'll get any better,' one of the men said, talking in a lowered voice and glancing nervously around the empty market. 'This is unique,' Maria Lipman, a political analyst at the Carnegie Moscow Center said. 'Disturbingly, this is what the people of Kondopoga were demanding, that the Caucasians be hounded out of town.'

Since the collapse of communism in 1991 already simmering racist attitudes have grown in Russia, partly aggravated by Chechen separatist attacks that have fanned suspicion of people who do not look Russian.

Trouble started in Kondopoga, a town of 40,000 in the Russian province of Karelia, after a bar fight over an unpaid bill between locals and Chechens. Two Russians were killed.

OUTSIDE INFLUENCE

The deaths ignited smoldering resentment against the small Caucasus community -- which included Chechens, other Russian Caucasians as well as immigrants from Azerbaijan and Armenia -- whom the Russians said controlled the market and had bought off the police.

And they now wanted the migrants out.

So locals turned to the Moscow-based Action Against Illegal Immigration (DPNI), a self-styled far-right consultancy and public relations group, who willingly admit their involvement.

'We are in favor of removing all illegal immigrants from Karelia,' Alexei Mikhailov, a DPNI leader, said. DPNI, which sent members to Kondopoga, considers most migrants to be illegal, he added.

Russia's constitution says all its citizens, regardless of ethnic origin, have the right to work anywhere in Russia.

But Mikhailov -- a 30-year-old electronics engineer with a physics doctorate from Moscow University who used to work in San Francisco -- has little time for such statements.

'We have nothing to say to the ethnic diasporas, they should be removed from negotiations,' he said.

On September 2, a couple of days after the fight, around 2,000 locals attacked businesses and property owned by Caucasus natives. They ripped market stalls apart, stoned migrants' homes and burned and looted the Azeri restaurant where the Russians were killed.

RAMPAGE

The rampage lasted long into the night and was only quelled after authorities called in police reinforcements from Petrozavodsk, the regional capital.

DPNI had not planned a riot, Mikhailov said, but he viewed the result as positive.

'It was a big PR success. We got our message across.'

In an old sanatorium a few miles outside Petrozavodsk, special forces with Kalashnikov rifles protect some 50 Chechens who fled Kondopoga after the violence.

'This is not a simple inter-ethnic fight,' Hamzat Magamadov, a 42-year-old Chechen who had lived in Kondopoga for seven years, said. 'In this conflict, we have a pact between local criminals and nationalist groups against the Chechen community.'

The Moscow-based Sova Center, which tracks race attacks across Russia, said they were rising every year, and that racists had killed 33 people and injured 280 already this year, including 11 people killed in a bomb in August in a multi-ethnic market in Moscow.

After the Kondopoga riot, DPNI staged a peaceful rally in Petrozavodsk a few days later. It plans other anti-migrant rallies later in the year and has offered to help other cities that want to chase out migrants.

Karelia's governor, Sergei Katanandov, has been keen to present the riot as localized inter-ethnic trouble, stirred up by agitators from Moscow, that will smooth itself out.

'It was a problem between two criminal groups,' Katanandov's spokesman, Alexander Smirnov, said. 'With the help of outsiders, a local criminal violent clash was turned into a conflict with wider implications.'
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Re: Eitam: Israel Must Say the Truth, Transfer is Only Way
« Reply #4 on: September 21, 2006, 01:22:50 PM »
Caucasus community

What is the Caucasus community?
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Re: Eitam: Israel Must Say the Truth, Transfer is Only Way
« Reply #5 on: September 21, 2006, 02:28:17 PM »
Caucasus community

What is the Caucasus community?

people from the "Kavkaz" mountains area in southern russia. many Jews in Israel are from there btw.


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Re: Eitam: Israel Must Say the Truth, Transfer is Only Way
« Reply #6 on: September 21, 2006, 03:29:08 PM »
Re:  "U.S. ...leaders warm to "Hamas Unity Gov't..."

The truth hurts:  Our leaders are merely Saudi King Followers.

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« Reply #7 on: September 21, 2006, 03:41:03 PM »
The truth hurts:  Our leaders are merely Saudi King Followers.
We can NEVER rely on our leaders.

All people in high office are corrupt because the office ITSELF makes them that way.  It is the same with islam turning all of its followers into violent, ignorant beasts.

Our salvation can only come from us.  Our 'leaders' will sell us out EVERY time.

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Re: Eitam: Israel Must Say the Truth, Transfer is Only Way
« Reply #8 on: September 22, 2006, 08:58:05 AM »
Caucasus community

What is the Caucasus community?

people from the "Kavkaz" mountains area in southern russia. many Jews in Israel are from there btw.

Darker-skinned Russians. They are treated poorly by the more aryan-looking Russians. Kind of like the relationship between Ashkenazi elitists and Sephardic citizens of Israel.
The city isn't what it used to be. It all happened so fast. Everything went to crap. It's like... everyone's sense of morals just disappeared. Bad economy made things worse. Jobs started drying up, then the stores had to shut down. Then a black man was elected president. He was supposed to change things. He didn't. More and more people turned to crime and violence... The town becomes gripped with fear. Dark times, dark times... I am the hero this town needs. I am... The Coon!!!

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Re: Eitam: Israel Must Say the Truth, Transfer is Only Way
« Reply #9 on: September 22, 2006, 08:05:03 PM »
Caucasus community

What is the Caucasus community?

people from the "Kavkaz" mountains area in southern russia. many Jews in Israel are from there btw.

Darker-skinned Russians. They are treated poorly by the more aryan-looking Russians. Kind of like the relationship between Ashkenazi elitists and Sephardic citizens of Israel.

its not the skin color that makes the problems, though. the problem is that they are mostly muslims, and do not identify themselves as Russians, but as Kavkazians- people of the Kavkaz (they were conquered by russians). in the collapse of the ussr, they didnt get their own country ("chechnia") and turned to terror.


Kahane was right!