Laurence Fishburne's Daughter: I've Always Wanted to Be a Porn Star

[MassuhDGoodName]

voo-yoo:  "When and if I become a father, my children won't have access to TV, internet, video games, and I won't let them "hang out" with a wrong crowd. It's as simple as that. "

I believe you.

However, that won't leave much left for your children to inherit when they get pissed off and kill you.

 

By the way...that reminds me....

Did you hear about the Dad who told his kids "I don't want to see you hanging around with the wrong crowd !"

Then, one month later, the police call him to come get his kids who were all arrested in a raid on a Chinese street gang.

When he got them home and asked them to explain themselves, they replied -

"We did it just to [censored] you off and show you that we could hang out with any race of people we felt like!"

 

[Kahane-Was-Right BT]

I don't know anything about the Fishburnes but I think it is possible for an offspring to choose evil all on their own, simply to defy all that is good. Look at Angelina Hoelie (yimach schma) vis-a-vis her father Jon Voight.

Oh come on, BF. Maybe Voight has some good views on Israel, but don't make him perfect. Didn't he play a male prostitute in Midnight express? He didn't raise his daughter, Jolie is a typical product of Hollywood.
Do you think Amish children can become like her? I don't think so, and they cannot become pornstars, because they don't know what porn is.  

They can find out.  They have a special 1 or 2 year period when they become an adult where they leave the farm or whatever village they live in to go experience the secular world/regular society and then decide whether they want to return to their old way or if the new life is they way for them.   So they find out about that stuff.

[MassuhDGoodName]

Re:  "They can find out.  They have a special 1 or 2 year period when they become an adult where they leave the farm or whatever village they live in to go experience the secular world/regular society and then decide whether they want to return to their old way or if the new life is they way for them.   So they find out about that stuff. "


Hate to tell you guys this, but you're all living in the past.

The world of parenting to which you refer no longer exists.

Today boys and girls eight years old already know more about sex, drugs, politics, and betrayal, than their parents have yet to learn.

They're literally flooded with it at every turn, everywhere in society.

You'd have to be living in total isolation (close to impossible today with our level of technology and wireless communications networks) in order to keep your children immune from the popular culture, and the popular culture is a global phenomenon.

I have yet to see the parents who are capable of locking down their children and holding them incommunicado with the outside world until they're full adults.

Parents have to earn some type of livelihood, and even a father who walks out to the fields to hoe and plant has to turn his back on his kids long enough for them to get into trouble.

[voo-yo]

Of course it's impossible to protect your children from all the bad things if you live in modern Babylon (every city in the world). That means those who want to protect their children must move. Yes, you won't have a lot of money if you do that, and it's going to be a harder life, but also a happier life.
I don't feel sad for the children of those Jewish settlers on Judean and Samarian hilltops who grow without the "benefits" of modern world, because I'm sure one day they will be great men and women. What do you think children in New York, London, Tel Aviv will become?

[Kahane-Was-Right BT]

Re:  "They can find out.  They have a special 1 or 2 year period when they become an adult where they leave the farm or whatever village they live in to go experience the secular world/regular society and then decide whether they want to return to their old way or if the new life is they way for them.   So they find out about that stuff. "


Hate to tell you guys this, but you're all living in the past.

The world of parenting to which you refer no longer exists.   

I was talking about amish people, dude.  They don't have any technology.

[Kahane-Was-Right BT]

You'd have to be living in total isolation (close to impossible today with our level of technology and wireless communications networks) in order to keep your children immune from the popular culture, and the popular culture is a global phenomenon. 

Right or wrong, that's pretty much what amish people do.

[MassuhDGoodName]

Re:  "I was talking about amish people, dude.  They don't have any technology. "

HOW DARE YOU mention Amish and Jews in the same sentence!!! !!!! ? !

                                     


                                                       

[nessuno]

voo-yoo:  "When and if I become a father, my children won't have access to TV, internet, video games, and I won't let them "hang out" with a wrong crowd. It's as simple as that. "

MassuhDGoodName:
I believe you.

However, that won't leave much left for your children to inherit when they get pissed off and kill you.

 
That is sad but true.  You can't keep your children isolated from society.  You have to smarten them up to it.  If you keep them isolated, when they get out on their own they'll be like the kid in the candy shop.
I think it's more important to talk to them about behavior and consequences.

[voo-yo]

That is sad but true.  You can't keep your children isolated from society.

I think you can, just not in a big city.

If you keep them isolated, when they get out on their own they'll be like the kid in the candy shop.
I think it's more important to talk to them about behavior and consequences.

Of course. I wouldn't just remove bad things and leave their minds empty. They would learn Torah.
But I would never let them experience "the real world" on purpose, and hope they choose the right way. That's insanity.

[nessuno]

They don't have to 'experience it'.
That isn't what I meant.
You can't shelter them from everything though.
I don't think you can.  So you must prepare them.
I agree that learning about G-d and their religion is vital though.

[Rubystars]

One of the difficulties I had when I was around 12-13 is that I wasn't watching the same tv shows as other kids, and they always wanted to talk about popular tv shows, celebrities, etc. which I had only the foggiest idea about because I was more interested in other things. This can be absolutely crippling socially if they think you're not "cool".

[Spiraling Leopard]

One of the difficulties I had when I was around 12-13 is that I wasn't watching the same tv shows as other kids, and they always wanted to talk about popular tv shows, celebrities, etc. which I had only the foggiest idea about because I was more interested in other things. This can be absolutely crippling socially if they think you're not "cool".

If you teach your children martial arts at a young age they won't get bothered. Strong kids don't get bothered.

[Spiraling Leopard]

You can't keep your children isolated from society.  You have to smarten them up to it.  If you keep them isolated, when they get out on their own they'll be like the kid in the candy shop.
I think it's more important to talk to them about behavior and consequences.

This is the right way to go.

[Rubystars]

One of the difficulties I had when I was around 12-13 is that I wasn't watching the same tv shows as other kids, and they always wanted to talk about popular tv shows, celebrities, etc. which I had only the foggiest idea about because I was more interested in other things. This can be absolutely crippling socially if they think you're not "cool".

If you teach your children martial arts at a young age they won't get bothered. Strong kids don't get bothered.

I'm sure that hitting people would have made me really popular.... not

[voo-yo]

One of the difficulties I had when I was around 12-13 is that I wasn't watching the same tv shows as other kids, and they always wanted to talk about popular tv shows, celebrities, etc. which I had only the foggiest idea about because I was more interested in other things. This can be absolutely crippling socially if they think you're not "cool".

You don't need friends like that, and I wouldn't let my children socialize with them.
The problem is you are all thinking from a perspective of a city dweller. You don't have to live in a city. In fact, you shouldn't, if you care about your family.

[nessuno]

One of the difficulties I had when I was around 12-13 is that I wasn't watching the same tv shows as other kids, and they always wanted to talk about popular tv shows, celebrities, etc. which I had only the foggiest idea about because I was more interested in other things. This can be absolutely crippling socially if they think you're not "cool".

If you teach your children martial arts at a young age they won't get bothered. Strong kids don't get bothered.

I'm sure that hitting people would have made me really popular.... not

Peer pressure is awful, Rubystars.  People can be awful to each other...even children.
I bet it's everywhere.  Even in smaller communities.  I don't live in a big city.  I know personally that it happens.  Ruby,  I have to tell you what happened to my daughter this year.  I have to pm you.

I have to be super honest.  I wouldn't mind if my child would take care of the people who really bully her in school.  Spriraling Leopard is right.
I always tell my daughter.  If someone touches you, you touch back in the same way if no adult will help.  The adults get one shot to help.  Then take yourself to the principal and tell them to call me.  I will always support you in that type of situation.
She is way too nice though.

 Bullying and peer pressure occur throughout life and in all communities.

[Spiraling Leopard]

One of the difficulties I had when I was around 12-13 is that I wasn't watching the same tv shows as other kids, and they always wanted to talk about popular tv shows, celebrities, etc. which I had only the foggiest idea about because I was more interested in other things. This can be absolutely crippling socially if they think you're not "cool".

If you teach your children martial arts at a young age they won't get bothered. Strong kids don't get bothered.

I'm sure that hitting people would have made me really popular.... not

That is not what I said. What I said is that when people know you are strong, you won't get bullied.
I was never one of the popular, hip kids, but I wasn't a nerd and people knew I was strong so I never got bullied.

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

I don't see why nobody believes that it is possible for a child to choose evil entirely on their own. As long as humans are born having free will, we will see this happen. I don't know what kind of a father Fishburne is but why does this have to be his fault in any way?

I also don't see what this has to do with peer pressure/bullying. Most children face both to some degree in their lives, and most adults as well in all truth, but most humans aren't possessed with the insatiable urge to become "adult-film" actors as a result.

[Rubystars]

One of the difficulties I had when I was around 12-13 is that I wasn't watching the same tv shows as other kids, and they always wanted to talk about popular tv shows, celebrities, etc. which I had only the foggiest idea about because I was more interested in other things. This can be absolutely crippling socially if they think you're not "cool".

You don't need friends like that, and I wouldn't let my children socialize with them.
The problem is you are all thinking from a perspective of a city dweller. You don't have to live in a city. In fact, you shouldn't, if you care about your family.

Most people live in cities or suburbs. There are trade-offs. Living in an urban or suburban area has obvious drawbacks, but even kids in the country would be into pop culture somewhat. I've seen grafitti in Brazos Bend state park and I'm sure the alligators didn't put it there.

Hey there's the culprit:


Or maybe not...

As for "you don't need friends like that", having friends at age 12 or 13 that never watch popular tv is almost impossible!

[Rubystars]

Peer pressure is awful, Rubystars.  People can be awful to each other...even children.
I bet it's everywhere.  Even in smaller communities.  I don't live in a big city.  I know personally that it happens.  Ruby,  I have to tell you what happened to my daughter this year.  I have to pm you.

I'd be interested in the story. I hope she was ok. I got death threats when I was in school for not being "cool". I didn't even do anything to hurt anyone. I was just a little different in my interests and didn't wear all the new "cool" clothes.

In 6th grade there was this band that all the girls liked (I was neutral about them, didn't like or dislike them), and lots of girls were wearing a t-shirt with them on it, so when 7th grade rolled around, I saw a t-shirt with the band on it and got it, only to find out that the band wasn't considered "cool" anymore. I got made fun of for wearing it, as if it was the most stupid thing ever, when the year before it had been what was cool!

If I ever have any kids of my own I would do my best to afford designer clothes (as long as they weren't too slutty or revealing, just things that would be cool looking for them) during the 5th-8th grades. After that they could choose whether to remain hip or not. I would also encourage them to be familiar with popular shows and movies and just guide them about what is morally right or wrong with those shows. Having common interest with other kids and wearing nice clothes is very important at that age, even if it is less important as an adult and seems a bit shallow when you get older. 

I have to be super honest.  I wouldn't mind if my child would take care of the people who really bully her in school.  Spriraling Leopard is right.
I always tell my daughter.  If someone touches you, you touch back in the same way if no adult will help.  The adults get one shot to help.  Then take yourself to the principal and tell them to call me.  I will always support you in that type of situation.
She is way too nice though.

 Bullying and peer pressure occur throughout life and in all communities.

I agree that you should always support your child if she has to fight to defend herself. I am in agreement with what you said. The only thing I disagree with Leopard on is that being a good fighter will make you popular. You can be strong and fight well and that will help you defend yourself, but it won't make you any more "cool". Plus the more popular girls are often the very feminine ones anyway so I would say it's ok to be violent in self-defense but not to be violent if you don't have to be.

[mord]

I WAS PRETTY TALL SO I RARELY GOT INTO FIGHTS WITH KIDS MY AGE OR A YR OR 2 OLDER .ONE TIME MY BROTHERS FRIEND WHO WAS ABOUT 4 YRS OLDER AND BIG HE WAS ABOUT 6'7'' 350 AND I WAS 12 HE 16 AND PLAYED FOOTBALL IN HIGH SCHOOL BEAT ME UP JOKINGLY I TOLD MY OLDER BROTHER TO BEAT HIM UP ,MY BROTHER, YOU HAVE TO LEARN TO DEFEND YOURSELF .I TOOK A ROCK 1/2 LB MAYBE 1 LB AND SMASHED IT IN HIS HEAD HE NEEDED 12 STITCHES

[Rubystars]

Mord in that case it was probably justified because he attacked you first! Good work. I'm just glad the guy didn't die.

[Spiraling Leopard]

I WAS PRETTY TALL SO I RARELY GOT INTO FIGHTS WITH KIDS MY AGE OR A YR OR 2 OLDER .ONE TIME MY BROTHERS FRIEND WHO WAS ABOUT 4 YRS OLDER AND BIG HE WAS ABOUT 6'7'' 350 AND I WAS 12 HE 16 AND PLAYED FOOTBALL IN HIGH SCHOOL BEAT MEUP JOKINGLY I TOLD MY OLDER BROTHER TO BEAT HIM UP ,MY BROTHER YOU HAVE TO LEARN TO DEFEND YOURSELF .I TOOK A ROCK 1/2 LB MAYBE 1 LB AND SMASHED IT IN HEAD HE NEEDED 12 STITCHES

Good job.

[voo-yo]

One of the difficulties I had when I was around 12-13 is that I wasn't watching the same tv shows as other kids, and they always wanted to talk about popular tv shows, celebrities, etc. which I had only the foggiest idea about because I was more interested in other things. This can be absolutely crippling socially if they think you're not "cool".

You don't need friends like that, and I wouldn't let my children socialize with them.
The problem is you are all thinking from a perspective of a city dweller. You don't have to live in a city. In fact, you shouldn't, if you care about your family.

Most people live in cities or suburbs. There are trade-offs. Living in an urban or suburban area has obvious drawbacks, but even kids in the country would be into pop culture somewhat. I've seen grafitti in Brazos Bend state park and I'm sure the alligators didn't put it there.

Kids whose parents allowed them to watch TV and spend time on internet put them there.

Hey there's the culprit:


Or maybe not...

Are you trying to be sarcastic? You better show some arguments instead.

As for "you don't need friends like that", having friends at age 12 or 13 that never watch popular tv is almost impossible!

Well, if it's "impossible", don't complain if your children do something like that someday.

[Rubystars]

There's a relatively small window of just a few years when being "cool" is considered to be important. Before 5th grade most kids aren't too concerned about it, because they all pretty much watch the same cartoons anyway and can have common interests in just running around and playing together. Around 5th or 6th grade, social pressure becomes very intense to conform. You're not supposed to like the wrong music, wear the wrong clothes, watch the wrong tv shows, etc. or you'll be ostracized and maybe even beaten up or worse. This is wrong and evil but it happens. If I had kids I'd try to buy them brand name clothes from 5th grade to 8th grade, when the competition is very intense.

I had some girls in sixth grade come up to me and ask me where I bought my clothes, and I said "Wal-mart, like most people", and they sneered and laughed the most horrible laugh and treated me like a piece of dog [censored] after that. They said they got their clothes at Palais Royal. That was the place where cool girls got their clothes back then (yes, very similar looking clothes to what you could get at Wal-mart, but they cost 5x as much because they had the all-important brand names on them).


Even my shoes were made fun of, because they weren't the pump-style sneakers that were popular then, and came from Payless. When I did get some pump shoes, I was treated slightly better and got some compliments on them, although most of my wardrobe wasn't up to par because I just didn't have an eye for that sort of thing, as to what was supposed to be popular.

Those things are very shallow and make no sense, but if it keeps someone from being targeted as different, then for goodness sake buy them.