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Re: Germany deserves Islam
« Reply #25 on: September 13, 2010, 01:13:08 PM »
My thesis is quite simple. While Germany no longer has the military power to enforce the racist ideology of the Nazis and while all extreme manifestations of Nazism are officially outlawed, the internal conditions--that is, the attitudes, worldview and cultural assumptions--that led to the rise of Nazism in Germany are still present because they constitute the basic components of German identity. Nazism was not an aberration; it was the distillation of the German psyche into its essential elements. External Nazism may have been utterly defeated in May of 1945; internal Nazism, however, remains, and will always remain, a potential threat as long as there exists a political and/or cultural entity known as Germany.

We should all understand that. Nazism is Germany, it didn't rise out of nowhere one day.

I wouldn't equate Germany and nazism because German culture cannot be reduced to its elements that led to nazism. However, I agree that nazism didn't rise out of nowhere one day.
A unique combination of factors made it possible for nazism to emerge and rise in Germany during the 1920s-1930s. Some factors are not specifically German - economic crisis, advanced industry... But others are definitely linked to German culture. That modern, civilized form of bestiality did not develop in Germany by chance. Other countries were affected by affected by economic crisis, by inflation, by the rise of communism, etc., but did not turn into Nazi countries.

Could nazism resurface in today's Germany ? I doubt that, at least in the short term. It is clear that the main danger today is Islam, not only against Jews but against all non-Muslims - Jews are only the first and most immediate target.

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Re: Germany deserves Islam
« Reply #26 on: September 13, 2010, 01:35:37 PM »
But do we deserve an Islamic 4th reich ?

They deserve elimination.

I am against calling for the elimination of today's Germans, for reasons we have already discussed.
But, believe me, I think I understand your feeling. Germany has come nowhere close to the punishment it should have received. Thanks to the cold war, they benefitted from America's assistance and protection, then they took advantage of the European market. These bastards did not help Israel when Israel was attacked by the Arabs. They could have begun to redeem themselves by at least supporting Israel but, no, instead they support the Arabs !
To fully realize the depth of Germany's guilt, we must remember that almost all the German people was in favor of Hitler. And the claim that they did not know what was going on is BS. What decent people can overwhelmingly support Nazis ?



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Re: Germany deserves Islam
« Reply #27 on: September 13, 2010, 01:43:21 PM »
Very well thought out this idea that Germany should become Muslim.Hitler didn't really like Arabs he hated Jews and wished Germany would have had the Qurananimal cult. Most Germans today aren't nazis if Germany fell to Islam which won't happen what's next France then all of Europe.A whole new continent of qurananimals won't that be great....insane idea
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Re: Germany deserves Islam
« Reply #28 on: September 13, 2010, 02:17:28 PM »
Steven has a sickness. He swings wildly from thinking he's Jewish to being anti-Semitic. There are probably other people you could talk about who are sane and still anti-Semitic. It's not just Germany though. Most of Europe has this same problem with anti-Semitism.  It's not just Europe either. Most of Southwest Asia hates Jews, and I even heard that many Japanese and Chinese are anti-Semitic. Of course Japanese hate just about everyone who aren't Japanese. lol

A pretty dumb way of changing the subject.

That's your opinion. I think there are anti-Semites in every nation, including the Jewish nation itself. It's a complete disgrace but there are people who hate God and hate Jews in every nation. Of course a nation that committed the Holocaust so recently in history to where survivors of the massacre are still living with the horrible memories is a special case and I understand that. However my point was not to get anyone off the hook but to explain that other countries also hate Jews, it's not only Germans or Europeans.

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Re: Germany deserves Islam
« Reply #29 on: September 13, 2010, 02:44:31 PM »
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Steven has a sickness. He swings wildly from thinking he's Jewish to being anti-Semitic.
lol i never saw him anti Semitic just nuts

I had just about enough of these excuses for this rat-faced Nazi lowlife who said he will f*k Jewish girls in Auschwitz.

Someone should call the responsible public health officer. He should look at Steven. His behaviour is not rational. Everybody can see it.

The best would be if he is placed into a closed psychatric institution with intensive care. This would avoid harm first to the people he attacks to mean, secondly to himself.
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Re: Germany deserves Islam
« Reply #30 on: September 13, 2010, 03:10:53 PM »
No excuses for Steven Ron. He is responsible for his own actions, sick or not. I agree with Ulli he probably needs to be institutionalized though.

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Re: Germany deserves Islam
« Reply #31 on: September 13, 2010, 04:01:00 PM »
Ulli, do you think Germany is heading towards an Islamic 4th Reich ?

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Re: Germany deserves Islam
« Reply #32 on: September 13, 2010, 04:34:48 PM »
You are right , Ron.

If Islam invaded germany in massive numbers and slaughtered all those anti-semitic socialist arab loving pigs(even steven weigang) , I wouldn't shed a tear.

However that would be a danger because Germany isn't a third world sewage so god knows what those crazy muslims would do if they had control of a european country like Germany.

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« Reply #33 on: September 13, 2010, 05:00:42 PM »
The German priest, Martin Luther [ys"v], may be the father of German Nazism, a proto-Nazi.  I believe he advocated locking all of the Jews of the world in synagogues and then burning the synagogues down with these Jews trapped inside with no escape from the flames.  He certainly sounds like the Adolf Hitler [ys"v] of his time.  This savage beast lived from 1483 until 1546, so that shows how long ago well known public drives against Jews have been going on in Germany.

When the "oh so tolerant of others" Germans get fed up with the "oh so tolerant of others" Muslims in zee faderland... who knows what will manifest.
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Re: Germany deserves Islam
« Reply #34 on: September 13, 2010, 07:54:50 PM »
Insane or not, Steven is a Nazi.

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Re: Germany deserves Islam
« Reply #35 on: September 13, 2010, 08:43:06 PM »
Ulli, do you think Germany is heading towards an Islamic 4th Reich ?

It wouldn't surprise me one bit. In a few decades, Germany will be an Islamic state.

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« Reply #36 on: September 13, 2010, 09:31:21 PM »
Re:  "The German priest, Martin Luther [ys"v], may be the father of German Nazism, a proto-Nazi. "

Luther was nothing of the kind.

Nazism is a socio/polical/economic creed based entirely on a Socialist national economy with membership in a racially superior group the sole prerequisite for citizenship.

Nazism is governed and led by an absolute dictator functioning as a combined spiritual, military, and political head of state.

Martin Luther was The Father of Protestantism, the great schism which forever divided the world of European Christendom between the Catholic and Protestant world.  Luther was the first to openly lead a revolt against his own Catholic Church leadership to protest the excesses and corruptions which were then being practiced by its priests and given sanction by the Pope and Bishops.  Even so, he remained a loyal Catholic Priest.  Late in life he began experiencing hallucinations and suffering spells of mental confusion.  During his youth he was very much a friend to the Jews of Germany; only in his last years did he begin "battling demons" within his study and ranting about the Jews' refusal to accept Jesus as their messiah.  Martin Luther is solely responsible for the existence of all Christian Church denominations outside of the Roman Catholic Church [with certain notable exceptions such as the Greek and Russian Orthodox Churches, Egyptian Coptic, etc...].
Luther lived during a time in which the very concepts of equality, socialism, racism, voting, genocide, redistribution of the wealth, capitalism, etc. were alien and unknown.  It was a time during which the sole and total authority in all of Europe was The Church of Rome.  To call Luther a "proto-Nazi" is at best a miscategorization revealing a poor grasp of both Christian history and European history.  Germany and Germans no more equal "Nazism" than does the Southeastern U.S.A. equal the KKK.
It is an unfortunate fact that all too many post-WWII Jews have been conditioned by their Jewish elders to shout "NAZI!" in a kneejerk reaction with the mentioning of anyone througout history unfavorably disposed to Jews and Judaism.  It's most difficult to win any arguments, debates, or friends favorable to JTF and Kahanism when one views the entire population of the globe outside of the Jewish People as "nazis" by virtue of their dislike for Jews. 

*The U.S.A. today has no less anti-Jewish views and beliefs than did the German people before Hitler's rise to power.  Nazism was not the inevitable sum total conclusion of being a German.  It was a sudden radical development born from the complete collapse of Germany's political, economic, social, and military following WWI, which included abject humiliation on an international level, along with an impossibly punitive "war reparations' tax laid on her by the victorious Allied powers at the Treaty of Versailles.  Her territories and colonies were stolen from her, her factories were shuttered, her military power made illegal - all while the Communist Party grew to become the second largest political party and power inside Germany.  The "legitimate" parties and politicians heading the Weimar government were roughly the equivalent of what we now have here in Washington, worsening the situation with each and every every act of legislation.  There was no shortage of "in your face" media hounds and professional attorneys with Jewish surnames, promoting Communism, lesbianism, internationalism, Esperanto, free love, nudity, and filth in cinema and the arts.  In Germany then, as in American now, liberals and elitists corrupted academia and brought on financial scandal and swindles within the banking system.  Daily all-out warfare raged in the streets between well organized Communist militia gangs armed to the teeth (their leadership and ranks full of Jewish surnamed Marxist atheists) vs loyal German militias composed primarily of disenchanted and disenfranchised troops returned from the WWI trenches in disgrace.  Eventually the economy crashed so terribly that child prostitutes were found throughout Berlin, and a loaf of bread cost literally millions of Deutschmarks, leading a large portion of the German population to starvation and ruin.  To Germany's east lay Joseph Stalin threatening to seize all of Europe.  To its west lay its oppressor enemies France and England who were in large part responsible for its humiliations and trouble.  It is THIS scenario (actually far worse than could ever be described in so short a paragraph) which gave rise to a German population willing to literally believe and accept anything promised by anyone as a last desperate attempt in reversing Germany's dire plight.  Germans and Europeans in general may have had no particular love for the Jews in their midst, but it took these conditions of collapse and despair to make a cultured and highly educated people react with mass psychosis. 

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Re: Germany deserves Islam
« Reply #37 on: September 13, 2010, 10:46:21 PM »
Uh, he said that Germans were at fault for not killing Jews. What is non-Nazi about that?

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Re: Germany deserves Islam
« Reply #38 on: September 13, 2010, 11:28:51 PM »
Ulli, do you think Germany is heading towards an Islamic 4th Reich ?

Agroup of German Muslims and non Muslims would love to see it, but thank G-d the Muslims are too sloppy and dumb and the Germans are to decadent and cowardly. So I think the situation will end finally in Venezuelian or Cuban circumstances. I don't think that Muslims will replace the welfare state with an Islamic one. At least in the next decades. As long as they can take without working they do this. This is their nature. But they will demand more welfare the more influential they become and of cause they will influence the foreign policy. Althrough I think German leftists need no encouragement to do harmfull things. But because of the Muslim vote this group will be more influecial too.
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« Reply #39 on: September 14, 2010, 05:13:27 AM »
I think in the near future Germany will realize what leftists/greens/ and Muslims are doing,then they will stop welfare to leftists and qurananimals and both will leave for greener pastures
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« Reply #40 on: September 14, 2010, 06:31:16 AM »
I think in the near future Germany will realize what leftists/greens/ and Muslims are doing,then they will stop welfare to leftists and qurananimals and both will leave for greener pastures
‏I think you are way too optimistic.

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« Reply #42 on: September 14, 2010, 10:55:01 AM »
I think in the near future Germany will realize what leftists/greens/ and Muslims are doing,then they will stop welfare to leftists and qurananimals and both will leave for greener pastures
‏I think you are way too pessimistic.

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« Reply #43 on: September 14, 2010, 11:05:22 AM »

I wouldn't equate Germany and nazism because German culture cannot be reduced to its elements that led to nazism.

Yes, Germany had great authors and musicians, so we cannot value Jewish blood and honor over the great pieces of art the Hun murderers created. Art is much more important and symbolic to Germany than the murder industry this culture is.

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A unique combination of factors made it possible for nazism to emerge and rise in Germany during the 1920s-1930s. Some factors are not specifically German - economic crisis, advanced industry... But others are definitely linked to German culture. That modern, civilized form of bestiality did not develop in Germany by chance. Other countries were affected by affected by economic crisis, by inflation, by the rise of communism, etc., but did not turn into Nazi countries.

This is because other nations didn't breath, drink and eat murder, hatred and jealousy since their creation like Germany. Germans are known through Russian and French literature to be the most barbaric, yet the most intelligent, murderers of Europe. The German murder industry was not firstly revealed in the Holocaust. The Germanic beast earned its reputation in the bloody adventures of the Tuetonic Knights and the Crusades, the Holocaust of Martin Luther, etc. The economic crisis is nothing by an excuse for the hate that exists in the German soul and blood, since the day of the Germanic hordes that destroyed the Roman Empire.

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Could nazism resurface in today's Germany ? I doubt that, at least in the short term. It is clear that the main danger today is Islam, not only against Jews but against all non-Muslims - Jews are only the first and most immediate target.

The Germans again need nothing but an excuse for their bestiality, this time - the "oppression" of their Islamic lovers by the evil Juden.

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Re: Germany deserves Islam
« Reply #44 on: September 14, 2010, 11:07:45 AM »
But do we deserve an Islamic 4th reich ?

They deserve elimination.

I am against calling for the elimination of today's Germans, for reasons we have already discussed.
But, believe me, I think I understand your feeling. Germany has come nowhere close to the punishment it should have received. Thanks to the cold war, they benefitted from America's assistance and protection, then they took advantage of the European market. These bastards did not help Israel when Israel was attacked by the Arabs. They could have begun to redeem themselves by at least supporting Israel but, no, instead they support the Arabs !
To fully realize the depth of Germany's guilt, we must remember that almost all the German people was in favor of Hitler. And the claim that they did not know what was going on is BS. What decent people can overwhelmingly support Nazis ?




If you show mercy for the descendants of the murders (who are actually following their parents' steps) you surely under-estimate the murder committed by their parents. This is beyond sick.

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Re: Germany deserves Islam
« Reply #45 on: September 14, 2010, 11:32:37 AM »

Uh, he said that Germans were at fault for not killing Jews. What is non-Nazi about that?

Exactly.

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If you cannot tolerate a person in a country or home, does that constitute holding him in captivity? In fact, they hold us Christians captive in our own country. They let us work in the sweat of our brow to earn money and property while they sit behind the stove, idle away the time, fart, and roast pears. They stuff themselves, guzzle, and live in luxury and ease from our hard-earned goods. With their accursed usury they hold us and our property captive. Moreover, they mock and deride us because we work and let them play the role of lazy squires at our expense and in our land. Thus they are our masters and we are their servants, with our property, our sweat, and our labor. And by way of reward and thanks they curse our Lord and us! Should the devil not laugh and dance if he can enjoy such a fine paradise at the expense of us Christians? He devours what is ours through his saints, the Jews, and repays us by insulting us, in addition to mocking and cursing both God and man.

They could not have enjoyed such good times in Jerusalem under David and Solomon with their own possessions as they now do with ours, which they daily steal and rob. And yet they wail that we have taken them captive. Indeed, we have captured them and hold them in captivity just as I hold captive my gallstone, my bloody tumor, and all the other ailments and misfortunes which I have to nurse and take care of with money and goods and all that I have. Alas, I wish that they were in Jerusalem with the Jews and whomever else they would like to have there.

Since it has now been established that we do not hold them captive, how does it happen that we deserve the enmity of such noble and great saints? We do not call their women whores as they do Mary, Jesus' mother. We do not call them children of whores as they do our Lord Jesus. We do not say that they were conceived at the time of cleansing and were thus born as idiots, as they say of our Lord. We do not say that their women are *haria,*, as they do with regard to our dear Mary. We do not curse them but wish them well, physically and spiritually. We lodge them, we let them eat and drink with us. We do not kidnap their children and pierce them through; we do not poison their wells; we do not thirst for their blood. How, then, do we incur such terrible anger, envy, and hatred on the part of such great and holy children of God?

There is no other explanation for this than the one cited earlier from Moses, namely, that God has struck them with "madness and blindness and confusion of mind." So we are even at fault in not avenging all this innocent blood of our Lord and of the Christians which they shed for three hundred years after the destruction of Jerusalem, and the blood of the children they have shed since then (which still shines forth from their eyes and their skin). We are at fault in not slaying them. Rather we allow them to live freely in our midst despite their murdering, cursing, blaspheming, lying, and defaming; we protect and shield their synagogues, houses, life, and property In this way we make them lazy and secure and encourage them to fleece us boldly of our money and goods, as well as to mock and deride us, with a view to finally overcoming us, killing us all for such a great sin, and robbing us of all our property (as they daily pray and hope). Now tell me whether they do not have every reason to be the enemies of us accursed Goyim, to curse us and to strive for our final, complete, and eternal ruin!

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What shall we Christians do with this rejected and condemned people, the Jews? Since they live among us, we dare not tolerate their conduct, now that we are aware of their lying and reviling and blaspheming. If we do, we become sharers in their lies, cursing and blasphemy. Thus we cannot extinguish the unquenchable fire of divine wrath, of which the prophets speak, nor can we convert the Jews. With prayer and the fear of God we must practice a sharp mercy to see whether we might save at least a few from the glowing flames. We dare not avenge ourselves. Vengeance a thousand times worse than we could wish them already has them by the throat. I shall give you my sincere advice:

First, to set fire to their synagogues or schools and to bury and cover with dirt whatever will not burn, so that no man will ever again see a stone or cinder of them. This is to be done in honor of our Lord and of Christendom, so that God might see that we are Christians, and do not condone or knowingly tolerate such public lying, cursing, and blaspheming of his Son and of his Christians. For whatever we tolerated in the past unknowingly_and I myself was unaware of it_will be pardoned by God. But if we, now that we are informed, were to protect and shield such a house for the Jews, existing right before our very nose, in which they lie about, blaspheme, curse, vilify, and defame Christ and us (as was heard above), it would be the same as if we were doing all this and even worse ourselves, as we very well know.

In Deuteronomy 13:12 Moses writes that any city that is given to idolatry shall be totally destroyed by fire, and nothing of it shall be preserved. If he were alive today, he would be the first to set fire to the synagogues and houses of the Jews. For in Deuteronomy 4:2 and 12:32 he commanded very explicitly that nothing is to be added to or subtracted from his law. And Samuel says in I Samuel 15:23 that disobedience to God is idolatry. Now the Jews' doctrine at present is nothing but the additions of the rabbis and the idolatry of disobedience, so that Moses has become entirely unknown among them (as we said before), just as the Bible became unknown under the papacy in our day. So also, for Moses' sake, their schools cannot be tolerated; they defame him just as much as they do us. It is not necessary that they have their own free churches for such idolatry.

Second, I advise that their houses also be razed and destroyed. For they pursue in them the same aims as in their synagogues. Instead they might be lodged under a roof or in a barn, like the gypsies. This will bring home to them the fact that they are not masters in our country, as they boast, but that they are living in exile and in captivity, as they incessantly wail and lament about us before God.

Third, I advise that all their prayer books and Talmudic writings, in which such idolatry, lies, cursing, and blasphemy are taught, be taken from them.

Fourth, I advise that their rabbis be forbidden to teach henceforth on pain of loss of life and limb. For they have justly forfeited the right to such an office by holding the poor Jews captive with the saying of Moses (Deuteronomy 17:10) in which he commands them to obey their teachers on penalty of death, although Moses clearly adds: "what they teach you in accord with the law of the Lord." Those villains ignore that. They wantonly employ the poor people's obedience contrary to the law of the Lord and infuse them with this poison, cursing, and blasphemy. In the same way the pope also held us captive with the declaration in Matthew 16:18, "You are Peter," etc., inducing us to believe all the lies and deceptions that issued from his devilish mind. He did not teach in accord with the word of God, and therefore he forfeited the right to teach.

Fifth, I advise that safe-conduct on the highways be abolished completely for the Jews. For they have no business in the countryside, since they are not lords, officials, tradesmen, or the like. Let them stay at home. I have heard it said that a rich Jew is now traveling across the country with twelve horses his ambition is to become a Kokhba devouring princes, lords, lands, and people with his usury, so that the great lords view it with jealous eyes. If you great lords and princes will not forbid such usurers the highway legally, some day a troop may gather against them, having learned from this booklet the true nature of the Jews and how one should deal with them and not protect their activities. For you, too, must not and cannot protect them unless you wish to become participants in an their abominations in the sight of God. Consider carefully what good could come from this, and prevent it.

Sixth, I advise that usury be prohibited to them, and that all cash and treasure of silver and gold be taken from them and put aside for safekeeping.
The reason for such a measure is that, as said above, they have no other means of earning a livelihood than usury, and by it they have stolen and robbed from us an they possess. Such money should now be used in no other way than the following: Whenever a Jew is sincerely converted, he should be handed one hundred, two hundred, or three hundred florins, as personal circumstances may suggest. With this he could set himself up in some occupation for the support of his poor wife and children, and the maintenance of the old or feeble. For such evil gains are cursed if they are not put to use with God's blessing in a good and worthy cause.

But when they boast that Moses allowed or commanded them to exact usury from strangers, citing Deuteronomy 23:20 apart from this they cannot adduce as much as a letter in their support we must tell them that there are two classes of Jews or Israelites. The first comprises those whom Moses, in compliance with God's command, led from Egypt into the land of Canaan. To them he issued his law, which they were to keep in that country and not beyond it, and then only until the advent of the Messiah. The other Jews are those of the emperor and not of Moses. These date back to the time of Pilate, the procurator of the land of Judah. For when the latter asked them before the judgment seat, "Then what shall I do with Jesus who is called Christ?" they all said, "Crucify him, crucify him!" He said to them, "Shall I crucify your King?" They shouted in reply, "We have no king but Caesar!" [Matt. 27:22; John 19:15]. God had not commanded of them such submission to the emperor; they gave it voluntarily.

But when the emperor demanded the obedience due him, they resisted and rebelled against him. Now they no longer wanted to be his subjects. Then he came and visited his subjects, gathered them in Jerusalem, and then scattered them throughout his entire empire, so that they were forced to obey him. From these the present remnant of Jews descended, of whom Moses knows nothing, nor they of him; for they do not deserve a single passage or verse of Moses. If they wish to apply Moses' law again, they must first return to the land of Canaan, become Moses' Jews, and keep his laws. There they may practice usury as much as strangers will endure from them. But since they are dwelling in and disobeying Moses in foreign countries under the emperor, they are bound to keep the emperor's laws and refrain from the practice of usury until they become obedient to Moses. For Moses' law has never passed a single step beyond the land of Canaan or beyond the people of Israel. Moses was not sent to the Egyptians, the Babylonians, or any other nation with his law, but only to the people whom he led from Egypt into the land of Canaan, as he himself testifies frequently in Deuteronomy. They were expected to keep his commandments in the land which they would conquer beyond the Jordan.

Moreover, since priesthood, worship, government with which the greater part, indeed, almost all, of those laws of Moses deal have been at an end for over fourteen hundred years already, it is certain that Moses' law also came to an end and lost its authority. Therefore the imperial laws must be applied to these imperial Jews. Their wish to be Mosaic Jews must not be indulged. In fact, no Jew has been that for over fourteen hundred years.

Seventh, I recommend putting a flail, an ax, a hoe, a spade, a distaff, or a spindle into the hands of young, strong Jews and Jewesses and letting them earn their bread in the sweat of their brow, as was imposed on the children of Adam (Gen. 3 [:19]). For it is not fitting that they should let us accursed Goyim toil in the sweat of our faces while they, the holy people, idle away their time behind the stove, feasting and farting., and on top of all, boasting blasphemously of their lordship over the Christians by means of our sweat. No, one should toss out these lazy rogues by the seat of their pants.

But if we are afraid that they might harm us or our wives, children, servants, cattle, etc., if they had to serve and work for us -- for it is reasonable to assume that such noble lords of the world and venomous, bitter worms are not accustomed to working and would be very reluctant to humble themselves so deeply before the accursed Goyim -- then let us emulate the common sense of other nations such as France, Spain, Bohemia, etc., compute with them how much their usury has extorted from us, divide, divide this amicably, but then eject them forever from the country. For, as we have heard, God's anger with them is so intense that gentle mercy will only tend to make them worse and worse, while sharp mercy will reform them but little. Therefore, in any case, away with them!

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If you pastors and preachers have followed my example and have faithfully issued such warnings, but neither prince nor subject will do anything about it, let us follow the advice of Christ (Matthew 10:14) and shake the dust from our shoes, and say, "We are innocent of your blood." For I observe and have often experienced how indulgent the perverted world is when it should be strict, and, conversely, how harsh it is when it should be merciful. Such was the case with King Ahab, as we find recorded in I Kings 20. That is the way the prince of this world reigns. I suppose that the princes will now wish to show mercy to the Jews, the bloodthirsty foes of our Christian and human name, in order to earn heaven thereby. But that the Jews enmesh us, harass us, torment and distress us poor Christians in every way with the above mentioned devilish and detestable deeds, this they want us to tolerate, and this is a good Christian deed, especially if there is any money involved (which they have filched and stolen from us).

What are we poor preachers to do meanwhile? In the first place, we will believe that our Lord Jesus Christ is truthful when he declares of the Jews who did not accept but crucified him, "You are a brood of vipers and children of the devil [cf. Matt. 12:34]. This is a judgment in which his forerunner John the Baptist concurred, although these people were his kin. Now our authorities and all such merciful saints as wish the Jews well will at least have to let us believe our Lord Jesus Christ, who, I am sure, has a more intimate knowledge of all hearts than do those compassionate saints. He knows that these Jews are a brood of vipers and children of the devil, that is, people who will accord us the same benefits as does their father, the devil, and by now we Christians should have learned from Scripture as well as experience just how much he wishes us well.

I have read and heard many stories about the Jews which agree with this judgment of Christ, namely, how they have poisoned wells, made assassinations, kidnaped children, as related before. I have heard that one Jew sent another Jew, and this by means of a Christian, a pot of blood, together with a barrel of wine, in which when drunk empty, a dead Jew was found. There are many other similar stories. For their kidnaping of children they have often been burned at the stake or banished (as we already heard). I am well aware that they deny all of this. However, it all coincides with the judgment of Christ which declares that they are venomous, bitter, vindictive, tricky serpents, assassins, and children of the devil who sting and work harm stealthily wherever they cannot do it openly. For this reason I should like to see them where there are no Christians. The Turks and other heathen do not tolerate what we Christians endure from these venomous serpents and young devils. Nor do the Jews treat any others as they do us Christians. That is what I had in mind when I said earlier that, next to the devil, a Christian has no more bitter and galling foe than a Jew. There is no other to whom we accord as many benefactions and from whom we suffer as much as we do from these base children of the devil, this brood of vipers.
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Re: Germany deserves Islam
« Reply #46 on: September 14, 2010, 11:34:40 AM »
We can agree that Martin Luther was a prototype of Adolf Hitler.

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Re: Germany deserves Islam
« Reply #47 on: September 14, 2010, 01:14:18 PM »
But do we deserve an Islamic 4th reich ?

They deserve elimination.

I am against calling for the elimination of today's Germans, for reasons we have already discussed.
But, believe me, I think I understand your feeling. Germany has come nowhere close to the punishment it should have received. Thanks to the cold war, they benefitted from America's assistance and protection, then they took advantage of the European market. These bastards did not help Israel when Israel was attacked by the Arabs. They could have begun to redeem themselves by at least supporting Israel but, no, instead they support the Arabs !
To fully realize the depth of Germany's guilt, we must remember that almost all the German people was in favor of Hitler. And the claim that they did not know what was going on is BS. What decent people can overwhelmingly support Nazis ?




If you show mercy for the descendants of the murders (who are actually following their parents' steps) you surely under-estimate the murder committed by their parents. This is beyond sick.

I don't think I am merciful. Indeed, it would be sickening to have mercy on Nazis. But what are we talking about ? We are talking about generations of Germans born long after WWII.
In my opinion, descendants who could not do anything to stop what happened (simply because they were not born or because they were too young) should not be held accountable for crimes committed by their ancestors as long as :
1) They publicly condemn what their ancestors did and they make every effort to adequately punish those individuals who are known to have been guilty
2) They do not benefit from what their ancestors did
3) They do their best to repair as much as they can the damage caused by their ancestors

True, the behavior of the generations born in Germany after WWII does not meet these standards. For instance, there has been inadequate punishment of those directly responsible for the Nazi atrocities. A large number of perpetrators have escaped justice, and this is a total disgrace. Also, since 1948, Germany has not done enough to support Israel, to say the least, as I mentioned in my previous post. I am always disgusted by people who support Arabs against Jews, but it particularly sickens me when these Arab supporters are German...

I hate the Germans for what they did to our people. As I said, I fully agree that Nazi Germany did not come anywhere close to the punishment it should have received. But today's Germans are not those who murdered our brothers and sisters and they are not threatening us as Muslims are. So I don't see any sound basis for calling for their elimination.

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Re: Germany deserves Islam
« Reply #48 on: September 14, 2010, 02:15:28 PM »
Who do you both agree was the prototype of Martin Luther?

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Re: Germany deserves Islam
« Reply #49 on: September 14, 2010, 03:28:27 PM »
Good, I hope they all have to bow to Mecca or die.
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