evolutionists explain these animals

[christians4jews]

let the video run to watch all the vids. No way is evolution true, no way...

[Meerkat]

let the video run to watch all the vids. No way is evolution true, no way...

who says evolution and genesis are mutually exclusive? maybe 4.5 billion years to us is like 6 days to god.

[TheCoon]

Maybe I don't fully understand every concept of evolution but why is it that the ape ancestor we supposedly evolved from is now human and a chimpanzee has stayed the same since the dawn of its species coming into existence?

They're saying our ape ancestor expressed traits that improved its survival and were passed on over time and eventually traits kept changing and now we are modern man? Why do other species not show this? Why are other species the same as they were a bajillion years ago?

[Meerkat]

Maybe I don't fully understand every concept of evolution but why is it that the ape ancestor we supposedly evolved from is now human and a chimpanzee has stayed the same since the dawn of its species coming into existence?

They're saying our ape ancestor expressed traits that improved its survival and were passed on over time and eventually traits kept changing and now we are modern man? Why do other species not show this? Why are other species the same as they were a bajillion years ago?

possibly because of differences in location. humans ended up walking upright  when the Himalayans formed, blocking clouds from reaching Africa. this caused chunks of the rain forest to recede, and form the Savannah, the ability to sing from trees became useless and it became much more useful to walk upright. the chimpanzees were probably in a different location.

chromosome 2 use to be 2 separate chromosomes.  which is why apes have 24 pairs and humans have 23

[Kahane-Was-Right BT]

Maybe I don't fully understand every concept of evolution but why is it that the ape ancestor we supposedly evolved from is now human and a chimpanzee has stayed the same since the dawn of its species coming into existence?

They're saying our ape ancestor expressed traits that improved its survival and were passed on over time and eventually traits kept changing and now we are modern man? Why do other species not show this? Why are other species the same as they were a bajillion years ago?

Well, that's not true.   There was a "common ancestor."   The "common ancestor" was not "an ape" like the one we see today, it was something that preceded both the ape and the human.    Thus, "apes" did not become humans.  Some precursor (call it "ape-like" if you want - it's more primitive than ape and human) - some precursor to apes and humans became apes and became humans.

[cjd]

Maybe I don't fully understand every concept of evolution but why is it that the ape ancestor we supposedly evolved from is now human and a chimpanzee has stayed the same since the dawn of its species coming into existence?

They're saying our ape ancestor expressed traits that improved its survival and were passed on over time and eventually traits kept changing and now we are modern man? Why do other species not show this? Why are other species the same as they were a bajillion years ago?

It really is quite simple for them that want to see... Some chimpanzee's evolved into more ape like creatures while others remained the same... Some ape like creatures evolved into a more human missing link form of creature like we see in parts of the black population while others parts of the population moved on... In my opinion the picture is very plain to see.

[MassuhDGoodName]

You're all so stupid.

Everybody knows that white people were invented over fifty million years ago by the greatest NEGRO who ever lived! --  Dr. Yakub -  as the result of a laboratory experiment gone awry.

[Rubystars]

Maybe I don't fully understand every concept of evolution but why is it that the ape ancestor we supposedly evolved from is now human and a chimpanzee has stayed the same since the dawn of its species coming into existence?

That's not what evolution claims AT ALL. It says that humans and chimpanzees share a common ancestor. It never claimed that humans evolved from chimpanzees. Chimps have evolved over time too and are very different from the common ancestor. There aren't as many chimpanzee transitionals are as there are for humans because the environment that chimps tend to live in is not very good for fossil preservation, but they are not the same as the common ancestor at all.

They're saying our ape ancestor expressed traits that improved its survival and were passed on over time and eventually traits kept changing and now we are modern man? Why do other species not show this? Why are other species the same as they were a bajillion years ago?

Other species do have transitionals. There are lots and lots of animals where their history can be traced.

[Rubystars]

That guy makes my head hurt trying to say that flying in a V shaped group is a divine miracle. lol It's the most efficient way to fly, there's no reason this wouldn't have been selected for.  Birds also know how to sense magnetic fields and this probably helps to determine their migration patterns. Birds are very good at navigation because those who weren't good at navigation didn't survive as well. Climates also change over long periods of time so it's possible that migration routes too have shifted over time.

Homing pigeons finding their way home are not a miracle!  They can sense magnetic fields.

[Rubystars]

You're all so stupid.

Everybody knows that white people were invented over fifty million years ago by the greatest NEGRO who ever lived! --  Dr. Yakub -  as the result of a laboratory experiment gone awry.

I've always wondered if the Afro-centrists have a way to explain non-blacks and non-whites, like Asian people

[Ari Ben-Canaan]

According to the Talmud, there were 974 generations before Abraham.

[angryChineseKahanist]

I see the book of genesis as similar to evolution.
no where does it say that you are not allowed to evolve.
evolution is being used by communists.

where does it say that you are not allowed to evolve?

[christians4jews]

I see the book of genesis as similar to evolution.
no where does it say that you are not allowed to evolve.
evolution is being used by communists.

where does it say that you are not allowed to evolve?

for starters god created the stars reptimes and sea animals in a completely different order to what evolution claims. You cannot go against gods word.

Whether it was millions of years ago, or 6 000 is irrelvant as yom can mean day or period of time.

But no way did we start off as a allele from a comsmic soup then form such brilliant desings that 1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 steven hawkings could not design...

[Rubystars]

I'm not denying God's hand in creation but I think God created natural laws and then worked within them to create, including using evolution. I even think most of what we would consider miracles are based on natural laws God put in place that we don't quite understand.

[angryChineseKahanist]

huh? c4j??

[Ithaca-37]

"who says evolution and genesis are mutually exclusive?"

In fact, it's rather clear that Genesis precludes evolution.  In more than one place, Genesis speaks of God stating that both animals and plants are to 'reproduce after their own kind'.

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[Kahane-Was-Right BT]

"who says evolution and genesis are mutually exclusive?"

In fact, it's rather clear that Genesis precludes evolution.  In more than one place, Genesis speaks of G-d stating that both animals and plants are to 'reproduce after their own kind'.

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How does that preclude evolution?

[Dr. Dan]

I see the book of genesis as similar to evolution.
no where does it say that you are not allowed to evolve.
evolution is being used by communists.

where does it say that you are not allowed to evolve?

for starters G-d created the stars reptimes and sea animals in a completely different order to what evolution claims. You cannot go against gods word.

Whether it was millions of years ago, or 6 000 is irrelvant as yom can mean day or period of time.

But no way did we start off as a allele from a comsmic soup then form such brilliant desings that 1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 steven hawkings could not design...

The description of creation in the Book of Genesis might and should not be taken literally.. Even Rabbis say so.

And perhaps evolution is a description of HOW Gd might have created all living things.  Bottom line, whether evolution or not, I wasn't there and Gd exists and did everything and it wasn't just a coincidence.  If someone proves evolution has 100% true, it doesn't disprove Gd..and if someone proved otherwise, it wouldn't change anything either.


From my point of view, all living things originated from a common ancestor and branched out.  How humans came to be as a result if by evolution was Gd's will and might describe Gd's "magic finger".

[Ithaca-37]

"who says evolution and genesis are mutually exclusive?"

In fact, it's rather clear that Genesis precludes evolution.  In more than one place, Genesis speaks of G-d stating that both animals and plants are to 'reproduce after their own kind'.

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How does that preclude evolution?

How does an amoeba become a worm /become a fish /become a salamander /become a lizard /become a bird /become a rat /become a monkey /become a human (etc, etc, etc) if at each step they are 'reproducing after their own kind' -

[Kahane-Was-Right BT]

"who says evolution and genesis are mutually exclusive?"

In fact, it's rather clear that Genesis precludes evolution.  In more than one place, Genesis speaks of G-d stating that both animals and plants are to 'reproduce after their own kind'.

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How does that preclude evolution?

How does an amoeba become a worm /become a fish /become a salamander /become a lizard /become a bird /become a rat /become a monkey /become a human (etc, etc, etc) if at each step they are 'reproducing after their own kind' -

It didn't.  That question reflects a misunderstanding of evolution.

Offspring are born with mutations, and even moreso variations, all the time.  Some are evolutionarily useful, and some are detrimental.  The useful ones survive and are reproduced in subsequent offspring.   The changes don't happen on a macro scale all at once in a flurry.   Changes develop over very long periods of time.

There is an example we have witnessed with our own eyes.   The peppered moth http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peppered_moth_evolution

Its characteristic color "changed" due to selection by environmental pressure.  This does not mean that there was not reproduction of its own kind.  There was.   Slight alterations are latent potentially due to the presence of multiple alleles that determine the phenotype of various genes.   Some phenotypes become more and less common over time.   And new developments occur due to mutation as well (there are other examples for this).

Let me ask you this - When famous relief pitcher Antonio Alfonseca was born with 6 fingers, was that also a violation of the genesis description that animals will "reproduce after their own kind?"

There are many people born with 6 fingers even though their parents have 5.

[muman613]

A mutation does not evolution make...

Evolution discusses one organism becoming another completely different organism, not simply a genetic mutation.

[Rubystars]

A mutation does not evolution make...

Evolution discusses one organism becoming another completely different organism, not simply a genetic mutation.

variation+selection+time

[Dr. Dan]

A mutation does not evolution make...

Evolution discusses one organism becoming another completely different organism, not simply a genetic mutation.

Not exactly.  There are many different ways it can happen.  Before airplanes and boats, there were geographic isolations of common animals that evolved into two different species.  It might have taken 1000's to 10,000's of years..maybe more...

[Rubystars]

Sometimes different species can even form without there being that much distance or separation. There can be microclimates in the same canyon that differ, for example, and require different survival techniques. The important thing is reproductive separation.

[Meerkat]

watch this video. explains evolution fairly well.