Why haven't the pharmaceutical companies found a cure for homosexuality?

[Daniel]

The following is an excerpt from an episode of Boston Legal (Yes, a great liberal leftist show from the Bolshevik media!


*Alan Shore has brought his very own personal soapbox with him, and sets it in the middle of the floor;
steps up onto it, and buttons his jacket for good measure.*
Judge Gloria Weldon: What are you doing?
Alan Shore: Climbing on my soapbox, Judge. I do it once a week.
Judge Gloria Weldon: Get off that thing now, Mr. Shore!
Alan Shore: You sure? This is vintage soapbox stuff. You’ve got God, money, *steps off soapbox* politics,
homosexuality. Has anyone ever heard of restless legs syndrome? It’s where you move your leg about in your
sleep. It’s awful. You may have it. It may not keep you awake; it doesn’t really harm you in any way. It may
not bother you in the slightest, but nonetheless it’s awful. The pharmaceutical companies have declared it so.
So they’ve invented a drug, and you simply must take it. If you haven’t heard of restless leg, by the way, you
probably have attention deficit disorder. Awful. We’ve got a lot of drugs for that one. You must take them.
You’re depressed.
*Cut to a female juror who looks somewhat sad*
Alan Shore: You’re not sleeping enough.
*Cut to Denny Crane, who IS sleeping!*
Alan Shore: You think you’re shy, but you’ve actually got a social anxiety disorder.
*Cut to male juror who looks a bit uncomfortable with the attention.*
Alan Shore: *as camera pans across an older male juror* Weak stream. *and another male juror* Irritable
bowel syndrome. You people have all kinds of ailments you don’t know about. Luckily, we’ve got drugs for
every one of them. You must take them. My colleague has a case involving a “Forgetting Pill.” You can take
that one to forget you ever had restless leg or irritable bowels!
Judge Gloria Weldon: Mr. Shore, what are you talking about?
Alan Shore: Same-sex Attraction Disorder. And what troubles me is why the folks in Big Pharmaceutical
haven’t invented a pill for this disease. Clearly, they’re in the business of selling sickness. If there was a profit
to be made, they would make it. And with an estimated gay population of over 10 million in the U.S. alone,
there’s certainly a big enough market. Could it be that they can’t cure it? Well, not to worry. If Big
Pharmaceutical can’t do it, maybe Big Religion can. And they are. They’re the ones who coined the term,
“Same-Sex Attraction Disorder.” It’s a very good name. Very important, a good name. It’s a crucial first step in
disqualifying homosexuals as a segment of the population and categorizing them as a disease. Makes
homosexuals seem less like people and more like the flu. And with terrible, awful symptoms, makes a face
but curable, and therefore less concerning when it comes to things like an individual’s rights: freedom, privacy,
marriage. Big Religion is very concerned with marriage. Big Religion is the one filling the pockets of Congress.
It actually got them to propose a Constitutional ban on gay marriage. Think about that. A governmentally
imposed, systematic prejudice against a class based on their sexual orientation. Never mind that one of the
most trusted evangelical advisors to the President was himself having a homosexual affair on the side. Never
mind that one of our Congressmen was writing naughty e-mails to his teenage male pages. Isn’t it just a
disease? And I thought it was curable. That’s what they told me down at the church. Well, you can legislate
against it. You can give it a clever name and treat people for it. You can shut your eyes, have sex with your
wife, and pretend it all feels right. You can join the church and swear to be celibate. You can drive around on a
Saturday night with a baseball bat and try to beat it out of some poor soul you happen to meet. You can even
come to this courtroom and testify as to your new leaf and how well it’s all working. What a miracle! My only
response is: Give it time. We’ll see. Meanwhile, this company took $40,000 from my client, promising to cure
him of his gayness. Only in America! Only in a country that overtly and notoriously celebrates its prejudice
against a class of people by proposing Constitutional amendments. God bless us all! Home of the brave!
Shame on you. Couldn’t you have at least offered a money-back guarantee, and thrown in a blender? ambles
back to his seat

[TheCoon]

And yet none of this changes the fact God says in the Bible that homosexuality is an abomination. AND NOTHING EVER WILL.

Homosexuality is no different than beastiality or necrophilia. It's deviant sexual attraction/behavior. What does it accomplish from a biological standpoint when 2 men or 2 women have "sex" together? Nothing. We're programmed to be fruitful and multiply. That's not to say everyone has to have children, but the basis is a male/female relationship because it furthers our species. You have children so the species continues on. Personally, I could care less if homosexuals want to enter into sexual relationships together in their own privacy. But don't promote it as if it's equal to normal male/female interactions. I think it's wrong, but I'm not going to go into their homes and tell them how to act.

There is no difference between homosexuality and beastiality from a biological standpoint. The end game is that person's genetic line dies off and isn't carried on into the next generation.  In our society and culture the only difference is that beastiality is abhorent and homosexuality is not.

I'd say homosexuality is more likely to be dealt with proper psychological and religious councelling than anything. But good luck even proposing something like that without someone like YOURSELF screaming HOMOPHOBIA every 2 seconds.

[Daniel]

Not gonna scream homophobia here, but just differentiating homosexuality from necrophilia and beastiality. Every medical and psychological association classifies necrophilia and beastiality as sexual fetishes, but does NOT classify homosexuality in this same light.

And yet none of this changes the fact G-d says in the Bible that homosexuality is an abomination. AND NOTHING EVER WILL.

Homosexuality is no different than beastiality or necrophilia. It's deviant sexual attraction/behavior. What does it accomplish from a biological standpoint when 2 men or 2 women have "sex" together? Nothing. We're programmed to be fruitful and multiply. That's not to say everyone has to have children, but the basis is a male/female relationship because it furthers our species. You have children so the species continues on. Personally, I could care less if homosexuals want to enter into sexual relationships together in their own privacy. But don't promote it as if it's equal to normal male/female interactions. I think it's wrong, but I'm not going to go into their homes and tell them how to act.

There is no difference between homosexuality and beastiality from a biological standpoint. The end game is that person's genetic line dies off and isn't carried on into the next generation.  In our society and culture the only difference is that beastiality is abhorent and homosexuality is not.

I'd say homosexuality is more likely to be dealt with proper psychological and religious councelling than anything. But good luck even proposing something like that without someone like YOURSELF screaming HOMOPHOBIA every 2 seconds.

[HiWarp]

Not gonna scream homophobia here, but just differentiating homosexuality from necrophilia and beastiality. Every medical and psychological association classifies necrophilia and beastiality as sexual fetishes, but does NOT classify homosexuality in this same light.

And yet none of this changes the fact G-d says in the Bible that homosexuality is an abomination. AND NOTHING EVER WILL.

Homosexuality is no different than beastiality or necrophilia. It's deviant sexual attraction/behavior. What does it accomplish from a biological standpoint when 2 men or 2 women have "sex" together? Nothing. We're programmed to be fruitful and multiply. That's not to say everyone has to have children, but the basis is a male/female relationship because it furthers our species. You have children so the species continues on. Personally, I could care less if homosexuals want to enter into sexual relationships together in their own privacy. But don't promote it as if it's equal to normal male/female interactions. I think it's wrong, but I'm not going to go into their homes and tell them how to act.

There is no difference between homosexuality and beastiality from a biological standpoint. The end game is that person's genetic line dies off and isn't carried on into the next generation.  In our society and culture the only difference is that beastiality is abhorent and homosexuality is not.

I'd say homosexuality is more likely to be dealt with proper psychological and religious councelling than anything. But good luck even proposing something like that without someone like YOURSELF screaming HOMOPHOBIA every 2 seconds.

What about pedophilia? Is that a fetish or is it a condition whereby an adult is sexually attracted to children and can't help himself?

[muman613]

Homosexuality WAS considered a mental disease according to the DSM (Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders) up until 1973... Due to political correctness Homosexuality was entirely removed from the DSM in 1986...

[americankahanist]

There is no cure, because it is a choice. The parts don't fit. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out.  JTF is not going to open its arms to sexual perversion.

David Ben Moshe

[Kahane-Was-Right BT]

They are not trying to cure it.   To develop a drug for that purpose would invoke the outcry of the gay activists and their leftist allies.  They might even bomb the research labs like the eco-terrorists and anti-stem-cell nuts have attacked researchers.    These pharma companies would be called evil and nazis and "fascists" and every other term in the book for devoting any efforts toward this goal.  Even having the goal itself would be attacked as "evil."   

[TheCoon]

As muman stated, the only reason homosexuality is not considered in the same light necrophilia, pedophilia, beastiality, etc is because of our politically correct society and the fact the other behaviors are still considered socially repugnant. Though at the rate we're going with children being sexualized in western societies I would say pedophilia will become somewhat acceptable in the next 50 years. In many muslim countries with islamic values it is somewhat common to see little girls married to adult men. Their prophet who was supposedly perfect married a 7 year old girl.

Not gonna scream homophobia here, but just differentiating homosexuality from necrophilia and beastiality. Every medical and psychological association classifies necrophilia and beastiality as sexual fetishes, but does NOT classify homosexuality in this same light.

[MassuhDGoodName]

Re:  "a class of people "

This is a Marxist "catch phrase" used to create artificial divisions within a society.

People who have sex are not by definition a "class".

Any more than tenor saxophonists comprise a distinct "class" among the saxophonist "masses".

This way of thinking derives from the theories of Karl Marx which stated that the only thing necessary to create a revolution was to redefine the meaning of commonly used words so that their "new understanding" creates artificial divisions within society, which then can be propagandized by a small, elite, communist "Vanguard of the Proletariat" which can then champion the various causes and demands of each "class" to create an ongoing "civil war" at all levels of society.

The stated goal of Communist Revolution is "equality " (a goal which never can be achieved), in what Marx termed "The struggle for a classless society".

The purpose of Communist propaganda is to create in people the mindset that unless society meets every (illegitimate) demand of each and every "class" (none of which even exist), then we shall all perish due to our failure to achieve victory in "The Class Struggle" (All of history prior to a Global Communist Victory has now been redefined as 'The Class Struggle'!).

Marx knew quite correcty that within the short time span of about two generations, any society will inevitably succumb to the unbearable stresses and strains caused by the "class divisions" created Communist propaganda.

The result?

One after another, each nation soon collapses from within like a series of dominoes, without a single shot ever having to be fired - the well disciplined Communist Party Vanguard left strong, in place, and ready to govern and rule.

The goal of a classless society (redefined as a concept called 'democracy') is deemed complete when all of society but a large population of uneducated "workers" has been physically liquidated, leaving those remaining to be ruled over by a Communist Dictatorship representing the interests of the Working Class.

Taken a good look at the front page of any newspaper today?

Whether or not you understand what is written here will determine whether you will live in freedom or as a slave.

America at this point in its history is right on the verge of total defeat, and will soon cease to exist altogether.

Think about it:  How many times a day do the American media, educational system, and government use the word "class",  and discuss the goal of all Americans as being "equality" of all classes and races?

Yet, how many times each year are we Americans asked to fill out official government forms and documents [with a legal warning stating that to lie or put false statements on these forms risks our being prosecuted by the government for perjury!] asking us to declare to which race we belong:

 - White (not a race but a color),
 - Black (another color and no race),
 - Asian (not a race but a continental place of residence),
 - Hispanic (an ethnic sub-group of a race which apparently can't be defined or mentioned
   in some way connected to the territorial concept of Hispanola ), or
 - Other (other what ?).

JTF forum members pray for the election victories of Marxists, Socialists, Fascists, and Globalist Elitists. who long ago abandoned the American Constitution and Bill of Rights, but were smart enough to don executive attire, sport American flag lapel pins, and most importantly:  "redefine the meaning of commonly used words in the English language".

The new idols at whose feet you worship now refer to themselves as "Conservative Republicans".

Now - Before any of you "great patriots" succumb to a high blood pressure attack, first stop and ask yourself these two simple questions:

1.  Whose idea was George W. Bush's proposed plan for Senior Citizens being provided cheap
     pharmaceutical drugs by the Federal Government?
     
     George Washington ? - or Karl Marx ?

2.  Which Constitution was George W. Bush vowing fealty to, when in debating his opponent
     Al Gore he so boldly declared, "I AM AN INTERNATIONALIST!"

     The Constitution of the U.S.A. ? - or The Constitution of the U.S.S.R ?
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I have full faith and confidence that none here but one or two of you are even capable of reading this post all the way to the end, let alone comprehending it, and therefore your arguments with Daniel and your insulting him will continue as before. Furthermore, you are all unknowingly accepting as your own starting position the truth inherent in Communist propaganda!  Then you run to quote Torah, which almost no one here has actually ever read, to make your case against Daniel''s views armed only with "G-d says so right here in a book which I've never read, and that proves you're a sinner and an abomination!"  Such a childish level of political naivete!  I'm no longer certain if it is symptomatic of societal illness, or the end stages of the disease itself.

[Zelhar]

It would be a great waste of money and resources to research for a cure of homosexuality, even greater than the waste that goes on today for AIDS. I think corporations love homosexuals because they are big spenders on luxury and leisure as they usually have no children. Not to mention that a great many of them are infected with STDs so they are a big income source for pharma industry. But Of course when it comes to long term economic benefits, homosexuality is a big negative element.

[syyuge]

Thanx! At least I have dared to read it. This is the malady which I have again dared to name as "EuroCommunism". Unfortunately it always stands at the winning end of the free discussions, because it is based upon concrete  logics which are based on Dialectical materialism, who themselves are the two ends of a huge snake Ouroboros, which swallows itself by tail.

Surprisingly only Islam remains out of it as a fermented remnant, because Islam is the only religion well tolerated and extolled by the EuroCommunists.

That is why I teach every EuroCommunist to go back and first preach their beautiful ideology in the backyards of arabia and papistan666.

[MassuhDGoodName]

syugge:  "At least I have dared to read it. This is the malady which I have again dared to name as "EuroCommunism". Unfortunately it always stands at the winning end of the free discussions, because it is based upon concrete  logics which are based on Dialectical materialism, ... "

Congratulations!  Syugge wins the first prize and is fully armed to counter any and all resistance!

                                                                             

[muman613]

I read it and don't think it is on-topic. What did that missive have to do with pharmacuetical companies? What did it have to do with homosexuality? Nothing... It is the gays who consider themselves a class of people... I consider them in the same category as others with sexual perversions, or mentally ill. Then what does that have to do with George Bush and republicans? What are you trying to say here?

[Lisa]

They are not trying to cure it.   To develop a drug for that purpose would invoke the outcry of the gay activists and their leftist allies.  They might even bomb the research labs like the eco-terrorists and anti-stem-cell nuts have attacked researchers.    These pharma companies would be called evil and nazis and "fascists" and every other term in the book for devoting any efforts toward this goal.  Even having the goal itself would be attacked as "evil."   

BRAVO!!!!!!!!!
 

[angryChineseKahanist]

The bullet was invented more than a hundred years ago.

[nessuno]

The bullet was invented more than a hundred years ago.

I know I shouldn't laugh but...
Daniel, that is the answer another thread like this deserves.
Enough already!
You want a medal for accepting homosexuals?  I don't think there are any to be had here.

[Rubystars]

Homosexuality WAS considered a mental disease according to the DSM (Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders) up until 1973... Due to political correctness Homosexuality was entirely removed from the DSM in 1986...

Thanks for bringing this up Muman. I think this is why pharmaceutical companies and psychologists/doctors are not working to learn how to help homosexuals.

From watching various films and speaking to people in real life, it seems like homosexuals go through a lot of torment. Some want children of their own, but can't bring themselves to be with someone of the opposite sex to make that happen. Some would like to have a "normal" lifestyle with a heterosexual marriage, but are kept from it because they're just not attracted to the opposite sex. Others might be completely happy being homosexual, but they are always going to be at greater risk of AIDs than the general population, putting their life and health at risk.


If liberals cared about homosexuals instead of using them for their own agenda, then they would want to help them find better treatments.

[MassuhDGoodName]

muman613:  "Homosexuality WAS considered a mental disease according to the DSM (Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders) up until 1973... Due to political correctness Homosexuality was entirely removed from the DSM in 1986... "

Exactly right!

So, we are forced to ask the following questions:

1.  If the AMA considered homosexuality a disease syndrome prior to 1973, what new evidence appeared prompting a complete reversal of its diagnostic rules and classifications?

2.  Presuming that the AMA is now correct and was previously in grave error, what else in the AMA's official position must we now refuse to trust?

3.  And - If in fact the AMA was correct prior to 1973, then does that not establish beyond the shadow of doubt that the AMA is an evil and corrupt organization which now promotes and accepts dangerous mental disorder as "a beautiful, alternative, and healthy lifestyle which belongs in a culture of diversity"?

4.  Shouldn't we now fear everything the AMA promotes and advocates, and never again trust what they tell us?

5.  Shouldn't we now consider that the AMA is lying to us about the "safety" and "effectiveness" of the many drugs they keep pushing and peddling on the American people and the world?

6.  Could it be true what critics of American medicine have claimed for years - that whatever earns obscenely high profits for the medical industry is what is promoted and sold as the only "official" treatment course available to Americans?

[muman613]

muman613:  "Homosexuality WAS considered a mental disease according to the DSM (Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders) up until 1973... Due to political correctness Homosexuality was entirely removed from the DSM in 1986... "

Exactly right!

So, we are forced to ask the following questions:

1.  If the AMA considered homosexuality a disease syndrome prior to 1973, what new evidence appeared prompting a complete reversal of its diagnostic rules and classifications?

2.  Presuming that the AMA is now correct and was previously in grave error, what else in the AMA's official position must we now refuse to trust?

3.  And - If in fact the AMA was correct prior to 1973, then does that not establish beyond the shadow of doubt that the AMA is an evil and corrupt organization which now promotes and accepts dangerous mental disorder as "a beautiful, alternative, and healthy lifestyle which belongs in a culture of diversity"?

4.  Shouldn't we now fear everything the AMA promotes and advocates, and never again trust what they tell us?

5.  Shouldn't we now consider that the AMA is lying to us about the "safety" and "effectiveness" of the many drugs they keep pushing and peddling on the American people and the world?

6.  Could it be true what critics of American medicine have claimed for years - that whatever earns obscenely high profits for the medical industry is what is promoted and sold as the only "official" treatment course available to Americans?

Massuh,

On this I fully agree with you. I do not trust the AMA, I do not trust the Pharma companies, and I do not trust the doctors who have forged unholy alliances with Pharma corporations.

In my opinion you are correct in this...

[The proud Jew]

In the torah it says in hebrew if u shall sleep with thy other man this is thy abomonation!

[MassuhDGoodName]

Re:  "In my opinion you are correct in this... "

[Kahane-Was-Right BT]

6.  Could it be true what critics of American medicine have claimed for years - that whatever earns obscenely high profits for the medical industry is what is promoted and sold as the only "official" treatment course available to Americans?

Isn't that obvious independent of the homosexual issue?   Why would a corporation sell something that didn't bring in profits?

[JTFenthusiast2]

These threads, like others, bring out some of the worst in forum members.  Comparing homosexuality with Beastiality is really offensive.  Having an animal as your sexual object choice is not the same as having a HUMAN BEING as your object choice.  I find Muman's comments here the least offensive, because at least he is clear in what he says.  Coon, your comments are really over the top. We get that you want to get in good with the purists but your comments here are ...feh.  I mean if people here think sex between two consenting adults is the same as the predilection for the rape of an animal that can't consent, I want to know. 

[Ari Ben-Canaan]

These threads, like others, bring out some of the worst in forum members.  Comparing homosexuality with Beastiality is really offensive.  Having an animal as your sexual object choice is not the same as having a HUMAN BEING as your object choice.  I find Muman's comments here the least offensive, because at least he is clear in what he says.  Coon, your comments are really over the top. We get that you want to get in good with the purists but your comments here are ...feh.  I mean if people here think sex between two consenting adults is the same as the predilection for the rape of an animal that can't consent, I want to know. 

There is this side of the argument, but the other side is when a man engages in sex with another man he is not only causing himself to sin [for which atonement can be sought] but he is causing another man to sin [a sin which the first man can himself never repair or atone for].  Given that an animal's soul [if they actually have one which is measurable] is of lessor value [although the welfare of how we treat animals is very important as well], and not beholden to Jewish/Noachide mitzvah, the argument that homosexuality is on par or even a greater sin than bestiality does have a valid point [which is a more personally offensive deviation is a personal, non halakcha based, reaction].

[Zelhar]

These threads, like others, bring out some of the worst in forum members.  Comparing homosexuality with Beastiality is really offensive.  Having an animal as your sexual object choice is not the same as having a HUMAN BEING as your object choice.  I find Muman's comments here the least offensive, because at least he is clear in what he says.  Coon, your comments are really over the top. We get that you want to get in good with the purists but your comments here are ...feh.  I mean if people here think sex between two consenting adults is the same as the predilection for the rape of an animal that can't consent, I want to know. 

How about comparing antisemitism to homophobia, don't you find this really offensive ?