Why are so many American Jews Bolshevicks? 85% Vote Democrat

[Dencal26]

I am new to this website and agree with almost every video and statement made in them.  Democrats continue to downplay the terrorist threat. Kerry during the 2004 campaign said the terrorist threat was greatly exagerated. John Edwards parroted the same theme last week. They just don't get it.

 Bush may be an dope but I trust him more than any Democrat on the issue of Islam. I think he really does understand this is a war with Islam.

So why do so many American Jews still blindly support Democrats like Anti Semite Jimmy Carter?  Intelligent responses would be greatly appreciated.

[mord]

Boy it's a hard question to answer,they just don'nt understand good from bad

[Hidden Author]

The Democrats understand nothing about Islam which is why they want to capitulate to the Muslims.

Bush understands 10% of the truth about Islam--that is to say, he knows there is a pervasive terror network in the Muslim world. But he doesn't really understand the nature of this network and how it is related to the Muslim world in general...as I said, he understands 10% of the truth and nothing more!

[Bannedfan]

Both parties know what Islam is like full well. They just do not care.

[MarZutra]

To tell you the truth, I feel it is an ineptitude that was brought over from the old country.  Many Jews embraced Socialsim, Liberalism, Communism, Marxism etc. after the 1880's pogroms.  During Enlightenment/Emancipation in Europe...many Jews embraced the Utopian "thinking" classes and threw off their Conservatism/Jewishness to "melt".  The ilk you see now are the remnants of these misgided Judenrot that wouldn't know logic, nor morality if it slapped them in the face.   You hit it when you said that they show support for Carter.  I'd add shvartzas like Jackson and Sharpton to that.  The funny thing is "thinking" Jews like Dershowitz came out against Carter's book and Carter himself but I still don't think his mind has grasped the inherent debasement of the Leftist ideology/mind.  

Good question...  One can add to that...if America is anything like Canada... People vote Democrate because "their parents did"...but they are ignorant to the entire agenda, platform, illogic/ineptitude of leftist thought...  

"Ignorance and arrogance are the poisons of the Liberal mind" - Rav Meir Kahane...

[DownwithIslam]

Well the democrats surely know alot about Islam as they have the first Muslim "congressman," Keith Ellison, in their party. And Barack Hussein Obama.

[Hidden Author]

Both parties know what Islam is like full well. They just do not care.

I'm surprised Hidden Author has actually said something non-critical of JTF.

I only oppose half of JTF's agenda--that's a rough estimate. But...but there is no point in saying "yes, yes, yes" to Chaim all the time--surely you don't expect me to be a dittohead.

[jdl4ever]

My mother votes democrat a lot.    She thinks the party cares more about people for some reason.

[genteelgentile]

There used to be a number of decent Democrats at one time, people like Scoop Jackson and Hubert Humphrey.  Even more recently, with Zell Miller, but really, no more.  You might not totally agree with them, but at least they were Pro- American.  Their patriotism wasn't questionable.

[cjd]

To tell you the truth, I feel it is an ineptitude that was brought over from the old country.  Many Jews embraced Socialsim, Liberalism, Communism, Marxism etc. after the 1880's pogroms.  During Enlightenment/Emancipation in Europe...many Jews embraced the Utopian "thinking" classes and threw off their Conservatism/Jewishness to "melt".  The ilk you see now are the remnants of these misgided Judenrot that wouldn't know logic, nor morality if it slapped them in the face.   You hit it when you said that they show support for Carter.  I'd add shvartzas like Jackson and Sharpton to that.  The funny thing is "thinking" Jews like Dershowitz came out against Carter's book and Carter himself but I still don't think his mind has grasped the inherent debasement of the Leftist ideology/mind. 

Good question...  One can add to that...if America is anything like Canada... People vote Democrate because "their parents did"...but they are ignorant to the entire agenda, platform, illogic/ineptitude of leftist thought... 

"Ignorance and arrogance are the poisons of the Liberal mind" - Rav Meir Kahane...

MarZutra, I think your on the right track here. When I lived in the City of New York years back the percentage  of Jewish people that held city jobs was very high. Most of these jobs were union jobs that were very loyal to the Democrat Party. In many of the big cities the Democrat Party ruled the roost in local politics as it does now here in NYC. City employees were encouraged to vote for the Democrat ticket by both union and management. Also if you live in NYC and  you regester as Republican you have very little to say in the primary elections because all the action is mostly happening on the Democrat ticket. When I lived there the trick was to register as a Democrat and  vote the primaries but in the general election vote for the best of both parties. I guess once most people are registered to a party they vote the party line and once that party is accepted by parents children follow in their footsteps. The Republicans are no bargain however the Democrats are off in the twilight zone somewhere with some of the crazy policies they have. I have gone from being a staunch Bush supporter to one that really will not defend what he does any longer. The breaking point came for me with border control and his crazy ideas of bringing democracy to Iraq. For whatever its worth Bush and the Republicans  have kept America safe since 911. I am not so sure Kerry, Pelosi and Reid would have had the same results. 

[TheCoon]

Many Jewish leaders in America have replaced Judaism with Liberalism. Jews in America grew up thinking liberalism is real judaism.

[Dencal26]

Thank You for so many intelligent answers. We have a Jewish lady on our AOL political chat email thread and she is a flaming liberal. She has no clue that leftist media bashed Israel daily during the Hezzbollah War. Once someome invented the term " Disproportionate response" they all repeated it like robots. Perhaps life in Starrett City Brooklyn has demented her brain.

When 6 Million Jews are surrounded by 300 Million Arabs and 1.3 Billion Muslims that want them slaughtered there is NO SUCH thing as " Disproportionate Response".

Dennis

[MarZutra]

CJD...sounds like the Mapai party in Israel..that have turned the entire nation into a digressive, hedonistic, egalitarian trade union....

[cjd]

CJD...sounds like the Mapai party in Israel..that have turned the entire nation into a digressive, hedonistic, egalitarian trade union....

It's a tough show being a conservative here in New York State. It really has become a loosing battle.

[Daniel]

Just because someone is a democrat doesn't automatically make them a Bolshevik. That's like saying that anyone who is a republican is a fascist. It's an oversimplification. I'm a democrat, but I don't identify with Bolshevism or communism. I might be more liberal on many issues, but on Israel and immigration, I have become a lot more conservative over the past few years. So you can't generalize or wrap someone up in a neat little shell merely based on what political party someone aligns him/herself with.

[MarZutra]

Just because someone is a democrat doesn't automatically make them a Bolshevik. That's like saying that anyone who is a republican is a fascist. It's an oversimplification. I'm a democrat, but I don't identify with Bolshevism or communism. I might be more liberal on many issues, but on Israel and immigration, I have become a lot more conservative over the past few years. So you can't generalize or wrap someone up in a neat little shell merely based on what political party someone aligns him/herself with.

Fascism and Bolshevism are similar Leftist ideologies.  If you compare them with eachother you will see there are only minor differences between them say nazism and communism for example.....  I have come to the conclusion that the Dems are Socialist/Globalists and the Republicans are Liberal/Globalists....with a few rightious Conservatives scattered through.  I feel they have become virtually indestinguishable...

[Daniel]

Just because someone is a democrat doesn't automatically make them a Bolshevik. That's like saying that anyone who is a republican is a fascist. It's an oversimplification. I'm a democrat, but I don't identify with Bolshevism or communism. I might be more liberal on many issues, but on Israel and immigration, I have become a lot more conservative over the past few years. So you can't generalize or wrap someone up in a neat little shell merely based on what political party someone aligns him/herself with.

Fascism and Bolshevism are similar Leftist ideologies.  If you compare them with eachother you will see there are only minor differences between them say nazism and communism for example.....  I have come to the conclusion that the Dems are Socialist/Globalists and the Republicans are Liberal/Globalists....with a few rightious Conservatives scattered through.  I feel they have become virtually indestinguishable...

If fascism and Bolshevism are similar leftist ideologies, then they are also both similar right wing ideologies as well. I think that whenever you go to the extreme on one end, you are basically mirroring the extremes on the opposite side.

[MarZutra]

actually quite the contra.  That is another myth like global warming.  An "Ultra" right wing ideology is Anarchy, no government while Communism is an example of "ultra" leftwing of total government.   

[Daniel]

actually quite the contra.  That is another myth like global warming.  An "Ultra" right wing ideology is Anarchy, no government while Communism is an example of "ultra" leftwing of total government.   

Really? Then why is it that many left wingers also identify themselves as anarchists?

I think we need to recognize that when it comes to positions on economic issues and positions on social issues, left and right wing are inversely proportional. Left wingers believe in more governmental for economic issues and less control on social issues. With right wingers, it's the other way around; more control on social issues and less control on economic issues. Only the libertarians and anarchists believe in little to no governmental control for both social and economic issues. So it would be false to put anarchy as either left or right. It's in another dimension all together.

[MarZutra]

actually quite the contra.  That is another myth like global warming.  An "Ultra" right wing ideology is Anarchy, no government while Communism is an example of "ultra" leftwing of total government.   

Really? Then why is it that many left wingers also identify themselves as anarchists?

I think we need to recognize that when it comes to positions on economic issues and positions on social issues, left and right wing are inversely proportional. Left wingers believe in more governmental for economic issues and less control on social issues. With right wingers, it's the other way around; more control on social issues and less control on economic issues. Only the libertarians and anarchists believe in little to no governmental control for both social and economic issues. So it would be false to put anarchy as either left or right. It's in another dimension all together.

Absolutely brother.  The reason why so many Leftists self identify themselves with Anarchists is because they are ignorami who have embrace too much "policially correct" disinformation.  Political Ideology: Anarchy is no government and total freedom, which doesn't necessarly mean debauchery right?  Of course the contra is communism.  Now on a social scale the two polar opposites are, as with communism, is no morality, no G-d, no family, no eternal truths but Hedonism ruled over in a police State, similar to Russia/China today or more specifically ancient Rome, Sparta or Greece.  While the oppoiste "Right Wing" socially would be like Israel during the early days where there was moral teachers and religious leaders with families raising their children with the moral teachings while there was a very small government of little power over a law abiding masses.  Anarchy means a state of disorder due to lack of government or control.  (not chaos) 0r, a society founded on the principles of anarchism.  Anarchism is the belief in the abolition of all government and the organization of society on a cooperative basis which is, in Biblical terms, is based on Moral/Torah Law with little to no government regulation and inforced order.

[RationalThought110]

They misinterpret the Torah (do they do this intentionally?) and then they justify positions based on their misinterpretations. 

They often say  "opposing...is against Jewish values." 


They bash Jerry Falwell and John Hagee. 

They think conservative Christians are more dangerous than supporters of Islamic Jihad.  They think conservatives are intolerant

They're always trying to silence conservative Christians.  This is probably why some of them don't think Jews deserve the help that Falwell tried to give and Hagee's current efforts. 


They think it's against "Jewish values" to oppose abortion and to oppose homosexual behavior. 


They think Israel should be dependent on the US government. 



Here's a sample debate on another forum: 

http://www.jewishjournal.com/forum/main/read.php?f=1&i=15280&t=15280

Don't respond on that forum. 

[RationalThought110]

Bolsheviks are hypocrites.  I'm guessing they like the 2000 proposal by Clinton's administration that would have forced Israel to give up Gaza, all of the West Bank and part of Jerusalem.

Yet, they recognize the 40th anniversary of the Six-Day war.  That's hypocrisy to then want to go to pre-1967 borders. 

[Bannedfan]

The answer is simple. The vast majority of Jews are completely secularized and do not practice any kind of faith, just like the vast majority of western "Christians" are followers of Jesus in name or birth only as well. Or, if they do believe in the L-rd, they certainly do not make him the center of their lives.

Once substantial numbers of Jews begin believing in G-d and living it out to at least a moderate extent, the suicidal self-destruction abyss will be curtailed.

[RationalThought110]

Many Jewish leaders in America have replaced Judaism with Liberalism. Jews in America grew up thinking liberalism is real judaism.

Yes. 

Although a main editor, Fred Barnes,  of the "Weekly Standard" is a neoconservative, here is a good article from a couple years ago by one of their pundits:

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/004/833ifcua.asp

"Partial proof of that was on display in a VIP box at the Democratic national convention, where two other prominent guests were seated shoulder to shoulder: Jimmy Carter and Michael Moore. Considering their on-the-record statements, it's not terribly difficult to imagine them leaning close during breaks to compare notes on Jewish conspiracies and the world's locus of evil, Israel."

"THEREIN LIES the explanation for why American Jews refuse obstinately to accept that the Democratic party's train, which they've ridden since FDR (whose reputation among Jews was less earned than awarded), is now carrying them toward some perilous destination. Sadly, by the time they realize that Harry Truman and Scoop Jackson have given up their conductor seats to Michael Moore and International Solidarity, it'll be too late to get off.

American Jews' allegiance to Democrats is nothing less than a religion. And conversion is considered a sacrilege. "   



They also try to make enemies with conservative Christians by trying to suppress them:

http://www.njdc.org/njdcspeaks/detail.php?id=653