What if...

[IsraeliGovtAreKapos]

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[Rubystars]

What if Israel and these hypothetical Danes could conquer a random Arab country that's not within the future borders of Eretz Yisrael together and give the Danes that land?

I clicked option 2 by the way

[nopeaceforland]

Option 2! If it were a peaceful country that would be fine! I'll keep my land, and give you peace! To be honest, my question is: In Jewish History why should we be so concerned with making peace with....anyone for that matter? We have been getting stupped for so many years by everyone else, the mudslims, Europe, FDR, Jimmy Farter.....  We've only had a country that we're "allowed" to call ours for 62 years, while every other ethnicity and major religion has had a country for 1,000's of years?

[Kahane-Was-Right BT]

I clicked option 2, but on the other hand, if the Danes don't have a criminal and evil culture like the Arabs do, there isn't a big reason why they can't stay, if they are willing to accept the noahide laws as a culture and the fact that they have no right to vote or take leadership roles in the govt/establishment.   And considering they are danes, they probably have a much lower birth rate than arabs.

[Debbie Shafer]

The only peacemaker will be the Lord.  I don't trust anyone to make peace with Israel, they all have ulterior motives.

[Malchut]

I voted Option 2. However, if these Danes were peaceful, they would have their own country. The only reason the Palestinian Arabs do not have one is because they chose not to. I personally think that is why G-d put the Arabs in Palestine, and the Middle East so a righteous nation would not have to be displaced.

[Yaakov Mendel]

The only peacemaker will be the Lord. 

No offense, but I think that we should think rationally and try to find human solutions because it did not seem to bother the Lord when six million European Jews were sent to gas chambers, many of whom being faithful Jews.

[Zelhar]

The thing is the premises to the question are not very clear or correct. I am sure a hypothetical Danish minority could live peacefully in Israel as a minority without constantly trying to undermine Jewish sovereignty over the land of Israel. They probably wouldn't breed like rats either and live on welfare which is the one thing muslims excel at.

[Alex37]

The only peacemaker will be the Lord. 

No offense, but I think that we should think rationally and try to find human solutions because it did not seem to bother the Lord when six million European Jews were sent to gas chambers, many of whom being faithful Jews.

Sorry, but your view is paradoxical. "Rational" Jews perished in the holocaust, because they couldn't believe what was awaiting them, until it was too late. "Irrational" Jews came to Israel to establish a state, when the land was a lone desert surrounded by hostile Arabs. Which Jews survived?   

Rationality is a non-practical leftist idea. Unless you have the ability to know what happens everywhere at any time, your perception of what reality is is limited and thus useless. Rationally, if Iran will attack Israel with nuclear weapons (G-d forbid), Iran will be destroyed. And yet Iran will probably act irrationally.

[briann]

If Muslims lay down their weapons, there would be peace, if Jews lay down their weapons, they would be exterminated.

[Yaakov Mendel]

The only peacemaker will be the Lord. 

No offense, but I think that we should think rationally and try to find human solutions because it did not seem to bother the Lord when six million European Jews were sent to gas chambers, many of whom being faithful Jews.

Sorry, but your view is paradoxical. "Rational" Jews perished in the holocaust, because they couldn't believe what was awaiting them, until it was too late. "Irrational" Jews came to Israel to establish a state, when the land was a lone desert surrounded by hostile Arabs. Which Jews survived?   

Rationality is a non-practical leftist idea. Unless you have the ability to know what happens everywhere at any time, your perception of what reality is is limited and thus useless. Rationally, if Iran will attack Israel with nuclear weapons (G-d forbid), Iran will be destroyed. And yet Iran will probably act irrationally.

I think you read more than I meant. I just meant that we should not expect divine intervention. It was basically the same as saying that we should not rely on miracles.
As for your remarks on European Jews before the Holocaust : I'm sure you know that the British allowed only very little immigration of Jews in Palestine during the 20s, and that they almost completely blocked it during the 30s.
As for your remarks on rationality :  (i) I don't understand your view that rationality is "leftist"; to me, rationality is neither left-wing nor right-wing, it is not a political concept; (ii) Rationality does not mean the perfect ability to predict events based on a complete knowledge of past and present information ! That would be a very restrictive and, indeed, non-practical definition. Rationality basically means a way of thinking by using empirical evidence and logic instead of emotions and beliefs and, more generally, claims that cannot be tested or verified.

Sorry I realize that all this is off-topic...

[Ari Ben-Canaan]

"we should not rely on miracles."

--Pray as if everything depends on G-d, act as if everything depends on you.

[Kahane-Was-Right BT]

The only peacemaker will be the Lord. 

No offense, but I think that we should think rationally and try to find human solutions because it did not seem to bother the Lord when six million European Jews were sent to gas chambers, many of whom being faithful Jews.

Sorry, but your view is paradoxical. "Rational" Jews perished in the holocaust, because they couldn't believe what was awaiting them, until it was too late. "Irrational" Jews came to Israel to establish a state, when the land was a lone desert surrounded by hostile Arabs. Which Jews survived?   

I would say it's the opposite.  The ones who left were rational and ones who "couldn't believe" based on the evidence what was going to happen, were the irrational ones who refused to leave.

"Rational" is not defined by what political correctness of the time asserts is true.

[DMAN]

i picked option 2. jews have been trying to make peace and "turning the other cheek" for 2000 years now and it hasn't got us far.

[TruthSpreader]

If Muslims lay down their weapons, there would be peace, if Jews lay down their weapons, they would be exterminated.

Very well put. I believe every Jew in Israel should own a gun in case an Arab or a group of Arabs invade their homes.

[muman613]

If Muslims lay down their weapons, there would be peace, if Jews lay down their weapons, they would be exterminated.

Very well put. I believe every Jew in Israel should own a gun in case an Arab or a group of Arabs invade their homes.

Yes and I would recommend a BFG!
A Big, uh Freakin, Gun

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BFG_9000

[Ari Ben-Canaan]

If Muslims lay down their weapons, there would be peace, if Jews lay down their weapons, they would be exterminated.

Very well put. I believe every Jew in Israel should own a gun in case an Arab or a group of Arabs invade their homes.

Yes and I would recommend a BFG!
A Big, uh Freakin, Gun

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BFG_9000

Classic! 

[Meerkat]

If Muslims lay down their weapons, there would be peace, if Jews lay down their weapons, they would be exterminated.

Very well put. I believe every Jew in Israel should own a gun in case an Arab or a group of Arabs invade their homes.

Every Jew  with a .22

[cjd]

If Muslims lay down their weapons, there would be peace, if Jews lay down their weapons, they would be exterminated.

Very well put. I believe every Jew in Israel should own a gun in case an Arab or a group of Arabs invade their homes.

Every Jew  with a .22

Every law abiding person should own whatever firearms their local government will allow.... Jews even more so!! The Rav was 100% in his thinking back then.

[TruthSpreader]

If Muslims lay down their weapons, there would be peace, if Jews lay down their weapons, they would be exterminated.

Very well put. I believe every Jew in Israel should own a gun in case an Arab or a group of Arabs invade their homes.

Every Jew  with a .22

Yes.