Can a self hating Jew ever become righteous?

[White Israelite]

So I have a question for JTF'ers, can a self hating Jew, someone who has gone down the wrong path who has aided the enemies, turned to false Gods, or given away land ever do anything to become righteous again or are these people doomed? I ask this out of concern of people in the Jewish community who may not realize what they are doing and can hopefully reverse their destructive pattern before it's too late. Take for example Neuterai Karta?

[christians4jews]

So I have a question for JTF'ers, can a self hating Jew, someone who has gone down the wrong path who has aided the enemies, turned to false Gods, or given away land ever do anything to become righteous again or are these people doomed? I ask this out of concern of people in the Jewish community who may not realize what they are doing and can hopefully reverse their destructive pattern before it's too late. Take for example Neuterai Karta?

well if gentiles can do it so can jews.

Chaim said that jesse helms use to hate the iraelis and then turned very pro israel, so im sure a jew can do the same mate.

[FreedomDefender]

No!

[Dr. Dan]

There something called Teshuva that a self-hating Jew can do when he realizes he is wrong...so there is hope for some, but not necessarily for all.

[FreedomDefender]

There something called Teshuva that a self-hating Jew can do when he realizes he is wrong...so there is hope for some, but not necessarily for all.

Maybeeee..... you just naive
When you alone with our porn
Maybeeee...... its all a fraud
They burn our flags
To the ground

Self hating jew will never admit that he done something wrong. Ego man.

[Kahane-Was-Right BT]

I think it depends on the circumstance.

So I have a question for JTF'ers, can a self hating Jew, someone who has gone down the wrong path who has aided the enemies,

It depends what kind of aid we are talking about.   If you mean they literally knowingly helped arabs to murder Jews, then such a person probably will never change.  If they were a  "peace activist" or some other nonsense because they didn't know any better, certainly they can change.

turned to false Gods,

I would say definitely yes they can do teshuvah because a lot of Tanakh consists of the prophets telling Jews who chased after idol worship to change their ways and return to Hashem.   I think they wouldn't be calling for that if it was impossible.

  or given away land

This can only be the type of person who was in a major leadership position, and IMO to take on that responsibility, someone also has the duty to fully grasp what they are doing, and I think such a sin is unforgivable, but I don't know, it's up to God whether such a person can do real teshuvah.   As far as we know, we can only consider such a person a traitor.

[Kahane-Was-Right BT]

There something called Teshuva that a self-hating Jew can do when he realizes he is wrong...so there is hope for some, but not necessarily for all.

When you alone with our porn

What?

What are you saying?

They burn our flags
To the ground   

Whose flags?

[FreedomDefender]

You don`t know what "our" is.

[Yaakov Mendel]

There something called Teshuva that a self-hating Jew can do when he realizes he is wrong...so there is hope for some, but not necessarily for all.

Maybeeee..... you just naive
When you alone with our porn

What is this again  ? You have been offensive and nonsensical all day long. What's wrong with you ?

[nopeaceforland]

Hey, anything can happen. Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm about to marry Natalie Portman!

[Kahane-Was-Right BT]

You don`t know what "our" is.

Perhaps I don't.  So tell us what you mean.   Or else nobody has any clue what you are saying.

[FreedomDefender]

What is this again  ? You have been offensive and nonsensical all day long. What's wrong with you ?

I can`t sing? Whats a matter?It makes you angry when someone having a good time  .

So tell us what you mean.

Israeli in this case. The poin is that some group of "religious jews burning flags in my country". From what i understand the word our or ours don`t have nothing to do with you. Thanks for the explanation.

[Yaakov Mendel]

I can`t sing? Whats a matter?It makes you angry when someone having a good  .

Yes, it makes me angry when someone is having fun by being disrespectful to the others and calling them names on a serious forum.
This forum should be a showcase for our movement. It should make newcomers feel like staying and supporting Chaim Ben Pesach.
This forum is also a community where everyone should be treated with fairness and respect.
This forum is not your personal playground. And I'm saying this with regard to all you have posted today, not just what you posted in this thread.

[Kahane-Was-Right BT]

So tell us what you mean.

Israeli in this case. The poin is that some group of "religious jews burning flags in my country". From what i understand the word our or ours don`t have nothing to do with you. Thanks for the explanation.

"When you alone with our porn"  has now become "When you alone with Israeli porn"

I still don't understand what you are saying.   What do you mean by that comment?

And for your information, I am Jewish, so Israel IS my country even if I'm not living there yet.   

Are you Jewish?

[FreedomDefender]

Yes, it makes me angry when someone is having fun by being disrespectful to the others and calling them names on a serious forum.

You and your body are very "respectful" . No doubt about that. The song was a joke but compare that to your "criticism" and see the difference. At least i am not telling people what to do.

[Yaakov Mendel]

Yes, it makes me angry when someone is having fun by being disrespectful to the others and calling them names on a serious forum.

You and your body are very "respectful" . No doubt about that. The song was a joke but compare that to your "criticism" and see the difference. At least i am not telling people what to do.

You have a nerve. You insult people and then you pose as the victim.
Yes, when someone breaks the rules and does damage, they have to be told what to do. You can count on me to be a good watchdog.

[Zelhar]

Can the [censored] change his skin or the leopard its spots ?

[muman613]

Of course. This is the most basic idea of Judaism. Teshuva is always available. The Torah clearly says this in the section of the rebukes against the Children of Israel. There is never a time when a Jews teshuva is not accepted.

If you would like scriptural sources for this I can provide it..

[Lisa]

To get back to the original question of whether or not a self-hating Jew can become righteous, I would have to say yes.  An excellent example of this is David Horowitz, the son of communist Jews, who used to be involved with the Black Panthers and other hard left wing causes.  He now publishes a website called Frontpagemagazine -- http://www.frontpagemag.com.  He's very pro-Israel.  He also does a good job of exposing the leftist Islamic Jew hatred on many American college campuses.  Furthermore, he also runs a site called "Discover The Networks" which is a detailed guide to Left.  You can look up any left wing individual or group here.  

Now granted, Horowitz is not as right wing as Chaim is.  But he has come a very long way.  

[Irish Zionist]

Can the schvartza change his skin or the leopard its spots ?

Idk about the leopard but it's definitely possible that a schvartza can change his skin. Having said that, they end up looking much worse.

[muman613]

Parasha Bechukotai

Leviticus 26

23. And if, through these, you will still not be chastised [to return] to Me, and if you [continue to] treat Me happenstance,
24. Then I too, will treat you as happenstance. I will again add seven punishments for your sins:
25. I will bring upon you an army that avenges the avenging of a covenant, and you will gather into your cities. I will incite the plague in your midst, and you will be delivered into the enemy's hands,
26. when I break for you the staff of bread, and ten women will bake your bread in one oven, and they will bring back your bread by weight, and you will eat, yet not be satisfied.
27. And if, despite this, you still do not listen to Me, still treating Me as happenstance,
28. I will treat you with a fury of happenstance, adding again seven [chastisements] for your sins:
29. You will eat the flesh of your sons, and the flesh of your daughters you will eat.
30. I will demolish your edifices and cut down your sun idols; I will make your corpses [fall] upon the corpses of your idols, and My Spirit will reject you.
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39. And because of their iniquity, those of you who survive will rot away in the lands of your enemies; moreover, they will rot away because the iniquities of their fathers are still within them.
40. They will then confess their iniquity and the iniquity of their fathers their betrayal that they dealt Me, and that they also treated Me as happenstance.
41. Then I too, will treat them as happenstance and bring them [back while] in the land of their enemies. If then, their clogged heart becomes humbled, then, [their sufferings] will gain appeasement for their iniquity,
42. and I will remember My covenant [with] Jacob, and also My covenant [with] Isaac, and also My covenant [with] Abraham I will remember. And I will remember the Land,
43. [For] the Land will be bereft of them, appeasing its sabbaticals when it had been desolate of them, and they will gain appeasement for their iniquity. This was all in retribution for their having despised My ordinances and in retribution for their having rejected My statutes.
44. But despite all this, while they are in the land of their enemies, I will not despise them nor will I reject them to annihilate them, thereby breaking My covenant that is with them, for I am the Lord their God.
45. I will remember for them the covenant [made with] the ancestors, whom I took out from the land of Egypt before the eyes of the nations, to be a God to them. I am the Lord.    

[FreedomDefender]

"When you alone with our porn"  has now become "When you alone with Israeli porn"

I still don't understand what you are saying.   What do you mean by that comment?

And for your information, I am Jewish, so Israel IS my country even if I'm not living there yet.  

Are you Jewish?

Damn it. I made a gramma error. wait!!!

[muman613]

Also refer to the Talmudic story of Acher... Who was a Rabbi who turned to the dark side... And yet even his Teshuva was listened to.

http://www.aish.com/tp/i/moha/57606397.html

[Dr. Dan]

There are some Jews who are hopelessly lost and are traitors...they don't have a chance...but many who are misguided do have a chance.

What is this again  ? You have been offensive and nonsensical all day long. What's wrong with you ?

I can`t sing? Whats a matter?It makes you angry when someone having a good time  .

So tell us what you mean.

Israeli in this case. The poin is that some group of "religious jews burning flags in my country". From what i understand the word our or ours don`t have nothing to do with you. Thanks for the explanation.

[mord]

To get back to the original question of whether or not a self-hating Jew can become righteous, I would have to say yes.  An excellent example of this is David Horowitz, the son of communist Jews, who used to be involved with the Black Panthers and other hard left wing causes.  He now publishes a website called Frontpagemagazine -- http://www.frontpagemag.com.  He's very pro-Israel.  He also does a good job of exposing the leftist Islamic Jew hatred on many American college campuses.  Furthermore, he also runs a site called "Discover The Networks" which is a detailed guide to Left.  You can look up any left wing individual or group here.  

Now granted, Horowitz is not as right wing as Chaim is.  But he has come a very long way.  

Robert Novak can't neither can Jewish Bolsheviks who killed religious Jews in the Russian Revolution or mordechai vannunu or Jews who were Nationalist SOCIALISTS who killed Jews.