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Re: Yimach Schma Vezichra to Kendra Wilkinson
« Reply #25 on: November 14, 2010, 05:41:34 PM »
Lady Gaga is evil because she is using her fame to pressure the military into allowing mentally ill into the armed forces. She also meddled with Arizona's right to enforce laws against illegal aliens.
   In no way am I condoning Kendra Wilkinson as her sexual behavior is abysmal, but you really have to make a stronger case.
I don't understand your response. They are both evil. Order-of-magnitude is not an exculpating argument. The kind of logic you are employing could be used to argue that since Charles Manson didn't murder as many people as Adolf Hitler, he's not evil or not that evil.

Just the sexual filth is plenty evil enough, TBOT.

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Re: Yimach Schma Vezichra to Kendra Wilkinson
« Reply #26 on: November 14, 2010, 06:04:33 PM »
Lady Gaga is evil because she is using her fame to pressure the military into allowing mentally ill into the armed forces. She also meddled with Arizona's right to enforce laws against illegal aliens.
   In no way am I condoning Kendra Wilkinson as her sexual behavior is abysmal, but you really have to make a stronger case.
I don't understand your response. They are both evil. Order-of-magnitude is not an exculpating argument. The kind of logic you are employing could be used to argue that since Charles Manson didn't murder as many people as Adolf Hitler, he's not evil or not that evil.

Just the sexual filth is plenty evil enough, TBOT.

Has Kendra done anything malicious like attacking Israel or the United States? Has she done anything anti-Semitic? I don't condone a woman posing for playboy, but I consider that type of Chalul Hashem to be one of selfishness rather than pure evil.
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Re: Yimach Schma Vezichra to Kendra Wilkinson
« Reply #27 on: November 14, 2010, 06:14:02 PM »
Has Kendra done anything malicious like attacking Israel or the United States? Has she done anything anti-Semitic? I don't condone a woman posing for playboy, but I consider that type of Chalul Hashem to be one of selfishness rather than pure evil.

As Chaim has explained, there are two kinds of sins--sinning before G-d and sinning before man. The latter is worse. Kendra is leading millions of stupid men to sin via lust and millions of stupid girls and women to sin via emulation. Let's not forget the horrible environment that she is creating for her children as a new mother.

I don't know if she is an anti-Semite but sexually immoral people generally are.

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Re: Yimach Schma Vezichra to Kendra Wilkinson
« Reply #28 on: November 14, 2010, 10:01:43 PM »
As usual, the great DBF has hit the nail right on the head. YSV to Kendra Wilkinson, may that cheap whore burn in Gehenom for all eternity!

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Re: Yimach Schma Vezichra to Kendra Wilkinson
« Reply #29 on: November 14, 2010, 10:11:51 PM »
Isn't it funny that two non-Jews continue to use Jewish curses? I find it a bit humorous... Aren't there plenty of other sites which you can go to to curse these people? As I have said numerous times I do not believe that cursing every media personality is the way to make the world a better place, it actually makes us look more like the taliban and the catholic church, LaHavdil.

Let me make clear I do not join in this cursing of people for these kinds of sins. In this generation there is a lot of confusion and we cannot always blame people for the positions they are in. Once again I will state the sexual immorality is a grave sin. But what is most important for the righteous is not cursing the wicked, it is trying to set an example of a better world according to the Torah of Hashem.

I know I am not the only one who gets tired of reading these kinds of threads. Our primary mission should be unifying the Jewish people, increasing aliyah to Eretz Yisroel, taking care of the arab problem, and making the Jewish nation a light unto the nations. When people see the Jewish people acting the way they are supposed to act, they will naturally reject evil and turn to the good.

I am sorry I do not share your hatred for peoples iniquities. I do hate evil, and I will surely smite evil when I can. But I do not curse every wayward child, I do know the power of teshuva and the ability for a human to learn and change.

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Re: Yimach Schma Vezichra to Kendra Wilkinson
« Reply #30 on: November 15, 2010, 08:40:45 AM »
Surely there is a difference between a misguided youth and an absolute harlot who gleefully gets involved with the smut peddling Satanist, Hugh Heffner. I am a proud, G-d fearing Jew and I will gladly join DBF, rWg and others in condemning that amoral walking cesspool, Kendra Wilkinson.

Recall the words of our great leader Chaim echoing the mighty Tanach: If you are kind to the cruel, you will be cruel to the kind.
When we read about the evil and the amoral (such as the butch sodomite, Fag Buchanus, or his lover the Nazi blogger Justin Raimondo) should we not burn with indignation as Pinchas did when he slew Zimri (Numbers 25:12)? People like Wilkinson are responsible for the moral corruption of potentially righteous souls.

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Re: Yimach Schma Vezichra to Kendra Wilkinson
« Reply #31 on: November 15, 2010, 10:19:19 AM »
I never heard of Kendra Wilkinson prior to this thread but I certainly am familiar with her husband,   Minnesota Vikings WR Hank Baskett.      He actually got released ( cut ) from the Philadelphia Eagles earlier this season.     While Baskett has been in the NFL a number of seasons,   he's never been a high paid player relatively speaking,  compared to what the top and even middle NFL tier players receive.   

Based on publicity,    it's safe to assume that I'm in the minority of those who were familiar with Baskett but not the much higher profile Wilkinson.          Unfortunately,   it sounds like Wilkinson is close to the other side of the spectrum of JTF.       I'm glad that there are people who are speaking out against evil.   
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Re: Yimach Schma Vezichra to Kendra Wilkinson
« Reply #32 on: November 15, 2010, 10:42:53 AM »

I agree with Muman, I find this use of Jewish curses by non-Jews against celebrities very inappropriate, especially when it is applied to a porn star and when it goes along with personal comments about her butt, which we really couldn't care less about...

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Re: Yimach Schma Vezichra to Kendra Wilkinson
« Reply #33 on: November 15, 2010, 10:46:51 AM »
I have no idea who she is, but if she is from some Reality show, I don't watch those trash.  I don't watch stuff that can actually try to numb my brain.
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Re: Yimach Schma Vezichra to Kendra Wilkinson
« Reply #34 on: November 15, 2010, 05:13:43 PM »
If anything Kendra Wilkinson and Miley Cyrus are more dangerous than Pat Buchanan. Very few young people want to become a Nazi because of Buchanan, but millions will want to be just like Cyrus, Wilkinson, Perry, etc. Therefore the argument could be made that although Buchanan and Sobran are more willfully evil than Wilkinson, she is still worse in the end.
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Re: Yimach Schma Vezichra to Kendra Wilkinson
« Reply #35 on: November 15, 2010, 05:14:25 PM »

I agree with Muman, I find this use of Jewish curses by non-Jews against celebrities very inappropriate, especially when it is applied to a porn star and when it goes along with personal comments about her butt, which we really couldn't care less about...
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Re: Yimach Schma Vezichra to Kendra Wilkinson
« Reply #36 on: November 15, 2010, 05:29:21 PM »
Many cannot go a day without reading the latest juicy morsel of celebrity gossip.

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Re: Yimach Schma Vezichra to Kendra Wilkinson
« Reply #37 on: November 15, 2010, 05:45:56 PM »
Many cannot go a day without reading the latest juicy morsel of celebrity gossip.
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Re: Yimach Schma Vezichra to Kendra Wilkinson
« Reply #38 on: November 15, 2010, 06:04:01 PM »
Celebrity worship syndrome (CWS) is an obsessive-addictive disorder in which a person becomes overly involved with the details of a celebrity's personal life

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Re: Yimach Schma Vezichra to Kendra Wilkinson
« Reply #39 on: November 15, 2010, 06:07:25 PM »
Celebrity worship syndrome (CWS) is an obsessive-addictive disorder in which a person becomes overly involved with the details of a celebrity's personal life
Is that a real medical/psychiatric diagnosis?!
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Re: Yimach Schma Vezichra to Kendra Wilkinson
« Reply #41 on: November 15, 2010, 07:12:06 PM »
If anything Kendra Wilkinson and Miley Cyrus are more dangerous than Pat Buchanan. Very few young people want to become a Nazi because of Buchanan, but millions will want to be just like Cyrus, Wilkinson, Perry, etc. Therefore the argument could be made that although Buchanan and Sobran are more willfully evil than Wilkinson, she is still worse in the end.

   While I don't agree with you, I have to give you credit for this argument. The only thing you left out is that it is not the girls who are responsible for this cult following, but the multi-national recording industry. As my previous posts imply, I'm taking a similar but different view to Muman's about using Jewish curses against celebrities. I believe it is appropriate for you to use them if and only if you can justify it. You still have to make your case to me.
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Re: Yimach Schma Vezichra to Kendra Wilkinson
« Reply #42 on: November 15, 2010, 07:31:19 PM »
As my previous posts imply, I'm taking a similar but different view to Muman's about using Jewish curses against celebrities. I believe it is appropriate for you to use them if and only if you can justify it. You still have to make your case to me.
Virtually all of the celebrities I have given the y-s to have also been cursed by Jews. Chaim has cursed Eminem and Miley Cyrus and Lisa has cursed Wilkinson. In fact Lisa cursed Wilkinson when I didn't even know who she was.

The argument for justifying it is that they are celebrating and flaunting their filth and actively encouraging other people to indulge in it. If someone is a homosexual behind closed doors and does not celebrate it to the world, I would not curse them, but feel sorry for them. However, people like Eminem actively promote their sexual orientation, so yes, they do deserve the y-s.

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Re: Yimach Schma Vezichra to Kendra Wilkinson
« Reply #43 on: November 15, 2010, 07:33:09 PM »
The curse you are using is a special curse which should only be used against those who are enemies of the Jewish people. To blindly curse everyone you personally hate with this curse {especially since you are not a Jew} is improper. I know this was discussed a year ago, but apparently you feel comfortable using it every day.

In effect you have cheapened this curse to the point of making it laughable..

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Re: Yimach Schma Vezichra to Kendra Wilkinson
« Reply #44 on: November 15, 2010, 07:44:37 PM »
The curse you are using is a special curse which should only be used against those who are enemies of the Jewish people. To blindly curse everyone you personally hate with this curse {especially since you are not a Jew} is improper. I know this was discussed a year ago, but apparently you feel comfortable using it every day.

In effect you have cheapened this curse to the point of making it laughable..


Have you asked Chaim for his take on it, especially since he has cursed almost all of these celebrities personally?

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Re: Yimach Schma Vezichra to Kendra Wilkinson
« Reply #45 on: November 15, 2010, 07:55:23 PM »
The curse you are using is a special curse which should only be used against those who are enemies of the Jewish people. To blindly curse everyone you personally hate with this curse {especially since you are not a Jew} is improper. I know this was discussed a year ago, but apparently you feel comfortable using it every day.

In effect you have cheapened this curse to the point of making it laughable..


Have you asked Chaim for his take on it, especially since he has cursed almost all of these celebrities personally?

I will ask.

In general I agree that a Y'S' should be used for enemies of the Jewish people. This comes from the portion of the Torah in which Hashem commands us to remember what Amalek did to the Jewish people when they left Egypt. The curse asks Hashem to blot out the name and the memory of the person being cursed. I have seen the curse used against Nazis and others who establish themselves as enemies of the Jewish nation. I am all for cursing these evil people.

When it comes to celebrities who are involved with evil personal deeds I do not believe it rises to the level of evil. I also do not agree that just because a celebrity does a sin, and others see it, that it immediately causes the person to be sent to hell for eternity {according to Jewish faith only those who are genuinely evil will have an extended stay in gehinnom}. The process of repentance can take a long time. We learn that Hashem has a quality called 'Long Suffering' meaning that he will wait a long time in order for the sinner to repent. It is true if their sin is public then it is a chillul hashem {if the celebrity is Jewish} and then it is more difficult to repair the sin. Leading others astray is a very severe sin but I do believe that there may be a way for people who publicly sin to repair the damage.

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You shall make yourself the Festival of Sukkoth for seven days, when you gather in [the produce] from your threshing floor and your vat.And you shall rejoice in your Festival-you, and your son, and your daughter, and your manservant, and your maidservant, and the Levite, and the stranger, and the orphan, and the widow, who are within your cities
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Re: Yimach Schma Vezichra to Kendra Wilkinson
« Reply #46 on: November 15, 2010, 08:23:32 PM »
I will ask.

In general I agree that a Y'S' should be used for enemies of the Jewish people. This comes from the portion of the Torah in which Hashem commands us to remember what Amalek did to the Jewish people when they left Egypt. The curse asks Hashem to blot out the name and the memory of the person being cursed. I have seen the curse used against Nazis and others who establish themselves as enemies of the Jewish nation. I am all for cursing these evil people.

When it comes to celebrities who are involved with evil personal deeds I do not believe it rises to the level of evil. I also do not agree that just because a celebrity does a sin, and others see it, that it immediately causes the person to be sent to hell for eternity {according to Jewish faith only those who are genuinely evil will have an extended stay in gehinnom}. The process of repentance can take a long time. We learn that Hashem has a quality called 'Long Suffering' meaning that he will wait a long time in order for the sinner to repent. It is true if their sin is public then it is a chillul hashem {if the celebrity is Jewish} and then it is more difficult to repair the sin. Leading others astray is a very severe sin but I do believe that there may be a way for people who publicly sin to repair the damage.


Is that what Chaim said?

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Re: Yimach Schma Vezichra to Kendra Wilkinson
« Reply #47 on: November 15, 2010, 08:24:11 PM »
I will ask.

In general I agree that a Y'S' should be used for enemies of the Jewish people. This comes from the portion of the Torah in which Hashem commands us to remember what Amalek did to the Jewish people when they left Egypt. The curse asks Hashem to blot out the name and the memory of the person being cursed. I have seen the curse used against Nazis and others who establish themselves as enemies of the Jewish nation. I am all for cursing these evil people.

When it comes to celebrities who are involved with evil personal deeds I do not believe it rises to the level of evil. I also do not agree that just because a celebrity does a sin, and others see it, that it immediately causes the person to be sent to hell for eternity {according to Jewish faith only those who are genuinely evil will have an extended stay in gehinnom}. The process of repentance can take a long time. We learn that Hashem has a quality called 'Long Suffering' meaning that he will wait a long time in order for the sinner to repent. It is true if their sin is public then it is a chillul hashem {if the celebrity is Jewish} and then it is more difficult to repair the sin. Leading others astray is a very severe sin but I do believe that there may be a way for people who publicly sin to repair the damage.


Is that what Chaim said?

No, I have not asked yet...  I was simply re-stating my position on this topic..

You shall make yourself the Festival of Sukkoth for seven days, when you gather in [the produce] from your threshing floor and your vat.And you shall rejoice in your Festival-you, and your son, and your daughter, and your manservant, and your maidservant, and the Levite, and the stranger, and the orphan, and the widow, who are within your cities
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Re: Yimach Schma Vezichra to Kendra Wilkinson
« Reply #48 on: November 15, 2010, 08:25:31 PM »
Okay.

May I ask, how do you feel about the fact that a Jew cursed Wilkinson with a thousand ys'?

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« Reply #49 on: November 16, 2010, 05:17:44 AM »
Okay.

May I ask, how do you feel about the fact that a Jew cursed Wilkinson with a thousand ys'?

   I feel that the curse is supposed to be a serious one and to use it a thousand times in this case is a gross misuse.

Does it bother you that you have to face the dome and the rock to say the sh'ma?