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Offline Meerkat

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anti-islam constitutional amendment
« on: December 09, 2010, 10:40:12 PM »
this might have been brought up earlier
http://pedestrianinfidel.blogspot.com/2007/02/proposed-constitutional-amendment.html

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Article I

The social/political/ideological system known around the world as Islam is not recognized in the United States as a religion.

The practice of Islam is therefore not protected under the 1st Amendment as to freedom of religion and speech.

Article II

As representatives of Islam around the world have declared war, and committed acts of war, against the United States and its democratic allies around the world, Islam is hereby declared an enemy of the United States and its practice within the United States is now prohibited.

Article III

Immediately upon passage of this Amendment all Mosques, schools and Muslim places of worship and religious training are to be closed, converted to other uses, or destroyed. Proceeds from sales of such properties may be distributed to congregations of said places but full disclosure of all proceeds shall be made to an appropriate agency as determined by Congress. No compensation is to be offered by Federal or State agencies for losses on such properties however Federal funding is to be available for the demolishing of said structures if other disposition cannot be made.

The preaching of Islam in Mosques, Schools, and other venues is prohibited. The subject of Islam may be taught in a post high school academic environment provided that instruction include discussion of Islam’s history of violence, conquest, and its ongoing war on democratic and other non-Islamic values.

The preaching or advocating of Islamic ideals of world domination, destruction of America and democratic institutions, jihad against Judaism, Christianity and other religions, and advocating the implementation of Sharia law shall in all cases be punishable by fines, imprisonment, deportation, and death as prescribed by Congress. Violent expressions of these and other Muslim goals, or the material support of those both in the United States and around the world who seek to advance these Islamic goals shall be punishable by death.

Muslims will be denied the opportunity to immigrate to the United States.

Article IV

Nothing in this amendment shall be construed as authorizing the discrimination against, of violence upon, nor repudiation of the individual rights of those Americans professing to be Muslim. The individual right of conscience is sacrosanct and the practice of Islam within the privacy of home and self is strictly protected to the extent that such individuals do not violate the prohibitions described in Article III.

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Re: anti-islam constitutional amendment
« Reply #1 on: December 10, 2010, 12:25:44 AM »
+1
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Re: anti-islam constitutional amendment
« Reply #2 on: December 10, 2010, 12:34:47 AM »
Well, of course I like it, but...

"Proposed" I suspect is inaccurate in the sense that I haven't heard of this actually being proposed in Congress.

Article II seems to contradict Article IV.  I would jettison Article IV.  Also, some of the language could be construed other ways...keep in mind that a couple words in the Constitution have been ballooned to encompass massive bureaucracies.  For example, this proposal states that the "individual right of conscience is sacrosanct" - does that include draft dodgers?  It surely will fifty years from now when the Supreme Court rules based on that phrase.

Finally, the "proposal" does not address muslim tourists, who should also be banned.

I have a feeling someone drew this up at his kitchen table and tried to make it sound "lawyerly".  Real law does not have all these comments and asides and observations and opinions.  This "amendment" could be 1/10th the size it is and accomplish the same thing.

I'm all for it...alas, the prospects of passage are bleak...


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Re: anti-islam constitutional amendment
« Reply #3 on: December 11, 2010, 04:33:14 PM »
Well, of course I like it, but...

"Proposed" I suspect is inaccurate in the sense that I haven't heard of this actually being proposed in Congress.

Article II seems to contradict Article IV.  I would jettison Article IV.  Also, some of the language could be construed other ways...keep in mind that a couple words in the Constitution have been ballooned to encompass massive bureaucracies.  For example, this proposal states that the "individual right of conscience is sacrosanct" - does that include draft dodgers?  It surely will fifty years from now when the Supreme Court rules based on that phrase.

Finally, the "proposal" does not address muslim tourists, who should also be banned.

I have a feeling someone drew this up at his kitchen table and tried to make it sound "lawyerly".  Real law does not have all these comments and asides and observations and opinions.  This "amendment" could be 1/10th the size it is and accomplish the same thing.

I'm all for it...alas, the prospects of passage are bleak...



bleak? lol. It will never even get off the ground...

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Re: anti-islam constitutional amendment
« Reply #4 on: December 11, 2010, 06:12:11 PM »
the language is too complex to be a constitutional amendment, the amendment should just state that islam is not a religion and may be regulated by congress.