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Rashi on Daniel 7:25: Moshiach in 2011?!
wonga66:
R.David Katz in his talk "5771 -The Geulah Rashi Ramban Zohar" http://www.torahanytime.com/Rabbi/David_Katz/
claims from calculations that not only do the Zohar and Ramban indicate 5771-5774 as being likely Geulah years, but also Rashi on Daniel 7:25
http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14260&st=&pgnum=71&hilite=, particularly this year 2011, noch!
muman613:
It would be wonderful if it was that soon. I have also seen Torah codes which also discuss the imminent geulah. It is difficult to put much faith in these calculations though, because many times they are incorrect.
Kahane-Was-Right BT:
Right, and Rabbi so-and-so predicted in 5750 that geulah was coming in 5751-5752 based on rashi and ramban, and shlomo so-and-so predicted in 5700 that 5710 was the year of redemption based on zohar, and when the US army invades Iraq, then when the British troops arrive on Bosrah, that was supposed to mean something and bring moshiach on a donkey, then this event, then that event, etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc And they don't come true, and then they make excuses and come up with new scenarios that supposedly predict later dates.
This craziness never ends. It is forbidden to predict stupid things like this because when the predictions do not come true, the simple Jews with simple faith whom you have DECEIVED, will LOSE ALL THEIR FAITH, not just their faith in your childish lies.
edu:
Historian A. Morgenstern stated that a large number of Jews had false messianic expectations in Jewish year 5600 {1840}. The sources "proving" that messiah would come in that year were more authoritative than the current sources being used to prove 5771-5774 as the geula years.
When the expected date of 5600 passed without messiah some rabbinical figures were so disappointed that they converted to Christianity.
Many of the Jews in the land of Israel at the time reacted by abandoning attempts to bring messiah by natural means and instead adopted the modern Charedi attitudes towards the land of Israel and the redemption.
wonga66:
As the Malbim (who himself calculated that the Geulah would happen in 1928!) says, the golus has gone of for so long, and the populace become so inured to the concept of Moshiach, that there is no longer a prohibition for a talmid chochom to give a reasoned calculation based on Daniel's numbers 1290 and 1335 etc.
And if you actually bothered to listen carefully to Katz, he talks far from "childish lies".
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