Under Israel's Law of Return, Gabrielle Giffords has the right to live in Israel

[NoMosqueHere]

Under Israel's Law of Return, the right of return is granted to those born Jews (having a Jewish mother or maternal grandmother), those with Jewish ancestry (having a Jewish father or grandfather) and converts to Judaism (Orthodox, Reform, or Conservative denominations—not secular—though Reform and Conservative conversions must take place outside the state, similar to civil marriages).

Consequently, Gabrielle (Gavriella) has the right to return to Israel if she chose to.  And if she so chose, I would welcome her as a sister.

[edu]

And I would want her ejected immediately. Just because some idiots who don't really believe in Judaism define Giffords as a Jew it doesn't mean, I have to pay attention.

[Ari Ben-Canaan]

Under Israel's Law of Return, the right of return is granted to those born Jews (having a Jewish mother or maternal grandmother), those with Jewish ancestry (having a Jewish father or grandfather) and converts to Judaism (Orthodox, Reform, or Conservative denominations—not secular—though Reform and Conservative conversions must take place outside the state, similar to civil marriages).

Consequently, Gabrielle (Gavriella) has the right to return to Israel if she chose to.  And if she so chose, I would welcome her as a sister.

You would then have a sister who is not Jewish.

[דוד בן זאב אריה]

Please you really think she would ever want to move to Israel.

[Zelhar]

* Actually when it comes to conversion I think the laws says "conversion according to halacha".

It's true that this secular law allows for people with one Jewish grandparent immigration rights to Israel. And over the years some good folk entered, and some that are less then good also took advantage of it.

[mord]

* Actually when it comes to conversion I think the laws says "conversion according to halacha".

It's true that this secular law allows for people with one Jewish grandparent immigration rights to Israel. And over the years some good folk entered, and some that are less then good also took advantage of it.

True she could move to Israel under the right of return but could not be married to a Jew in Israel that's Halacha.  I bet if 3 million people from the U.S with one Jewish Grandparent came to Israel  they would cause much much less  trouble then people who returmed to Israel from the former Soviet union

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

She should move to a Muslim Nazi country, not Israel.

[NoMosqueHere]

What about all the "half jews" persecuted by the german nazis and their evil allies?  would you not have given them sanctuary in israel back then and instead let them be gassed to death? Is that judaism?

[mord]

What about all the "half jews" persecuted by the german nazis and their evil allies?  would you not have given them sanctuary in israel back then and instead let them be gassed to death? Is that judaism?

OF COURSE THEY WOULD HAVE RECEIVED SANCTUARY THATS THE LAW OF RETURN EVEN 1/4 jEWS WOULD HAVE RECEIVED SANTUARY AND CITIZENSHIP BUT THEY COULD NOT MARRY IN ISRAEL UNLESS THEIR MOTHERS MOTHER WAS JEWISH OR CONVERTED

[White Israelite]

How do you think all those ethiopian jews made aliyah

[NoMosqueHere]

Yes of course I would embrace Gabrielle as a sister. She has a jewish soul, and embraces and identifies with the jewish people when she very easily could have kept her jewish ancestry quiet.  I don't care I disagree with her about Obama and other things.  I worked hard for McCain/Palin in the 2008 election and plan to work to defeat Obama in 12.  And, moreover, I would fully support GG's right of return to Israel under any circumstance.

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

1: I don't care what Israel's self-hating laws say, she's not Jewish.

2: What is your agenda in defending and promoting such a monstrous enemy of decency in general, and Israel in particular?

[Zelhar]

How do you think all those ethiopian jews made aliyah

Good point but in fact quite incorrect. The Ethiopian Jews that came 20 years ago and before were kosher Jews according to some major rabbis (Rabbi Yosef was the chief of those). But the people that have been brought on after are completely gentile who don't have the right of return even according to the civil law, and certainly no law states that they should be brought in and taken care of by the Israeli tax payer.  It is a substantial waste of money, well over 1,000,000 NIS per such family which are spent just for the first 10 years of its stay in Israel.

[IsraeliGovtAreKapos]

Under Israel's Law of Return, the right of return is granted to those born Jews (having a Jewish mother or maternal grandmother), those with Jewish ancestry (having a Jewish father or grandfather) and converts to Judaism (Orthodox, Reform, or Conservative denominations—not secular—though Reform and Conservative conversions must take place outside the state, similar to civil marriages).

Consequently, Gabrielle (Gavriella) has the right to return to Israel if she chose to.  And if she so chose, I would welcome her as a sister.

One is a Jew if his mother is Jewish or has converted through a Halachic process. All others are Gentiles, no matter how they call themeselves. So Giffords is not Jewish, period.  

And the Bolshevik Law of Return is an exact copy of the Nuremberg Laws. If you want to be a Nazi you dont need to use the Judenrat leaders of Israel to be one. But what should I expect from a self-hating Jew like you who is willing to give his life against a Mosque in the Exile but has never done anything about the Mosque on OUR Temple Mount and wants to insert millions of Gentiles into the Jewish people and help them invade our land using a Bolshevik copy of the Nuremberg Laws?
  

What about all the "half jews" persecuted by the german nazis and their evil allies?  would you not have given them sanctuary in israel back then and instead let them be gassed to death? Is that judaism?

Yea, thats Judaism. Gentiles dont suddenly become Jewish just because Adolf Hitler says they are.

And the ''half-Jewish'' GERMANS the Nazis considered Jewish were as Nazi as their fellow countrymen. They also participated in murdering 7 million Jews in the Holocaust (as we see in Bryan Rigg's ''Hitler's Jewish Soldiers' - All were ''half Jews'' you love so much). I celebrate their death just like I celebrate the death of PLO Arab Nazis killed by Hamas Arab Nazis who consider them to be ''Zionist agents'' (Jews, no?)

[Meerkat]

@ron theres a good reason to have a Nuremberg-based law of return. It ensures that the families of Jews fleeing persecution can also flee.

[Kahane-Was-Right BT]

Under Israel's Law of Return, the right of return is granted to those born Jews (having a Jewish mother or maternal grandmother), those with Jewish ancestry (having a Jewish father or grandfather) and converts to Judaism (Orthodox, Reform, or Conservative denominations—not secular—though Reform and Conservative conversions must take place outside the state, similar to civil marriages).

Consequently, Gabrielle (Gavriella) has the right to return to Israel if she chose to.  And if she so chose, I would welcome her as a sister.

Too bad that self-hating law is completely irrelevant to whether a person is actually Jewish.   And this is the fault of the establishment ashkenazi haredi rabbis who refused to vote for a law that would incorporate halacha into law of return

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

A Shiite Muslim is more Jewish than Gabrielle Giffords.

[takebackourtemple]

Since when did Israel start accepting deformed conversions? I thought they only accepted orthodox Jews for the right of return?

[muman613]

Since when did Israel start accepting deformed conversions? I thought they only accepted orthodox Jews for the right of return?

No, that was never the case for right of return. The only conversions recognized were Orthodox conversions {although this appears to be in question also}...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_Return
Law

On July 5, 1950, the Knesset, Israel's Parliament, enacted the Law of Return 5710-1950.[1] Follow-up legislation on immigration matters was contained in the Nationality Law of 1952. These two pieces of legislation combine religion, history, nationalism, and democracy, in a way unique to Israel. Together, the legislation declares the right of Jews to come to Israel, their ancestral homeland, and to facilitate their immigration.

The law gives the right of return to those born Jews (having a Jewish mother or maternal grandmother), those with Jewish ancestry (having a Jewish father or grandfather) and converts to Judaism (Orthodox, Reform, or Conservative denominations—not secular—though Reform and Conservative conversions must take place outside the state, similar to civil marriages).

[Kahane-Was-Right BT]

What about all the "half jews" persecuted by the german nazis and their evil allies?  would you not have given them sanctuary in israel back then and instead let them be gassed to death? Is that judaism?

a troll question

[Kahane-Was-Right BT]

Yes of course I would embrace Gabrielle as a sister. She has a jewish soul,

Only a Jew has a Jewish soul.

What you say makes no sense.

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

I smell Ben Mizrachi.

[Maimonides]

@ron theres a good reason to have a Nuremberg-based law of return. It ensures that the families of Jews fleeing persecution can also flee.

We should NOT let Nazis define who is a Jew!

[NoMosqueHere]

i wasn't aware of the Rigg book.  i need to read it.  but yes i do think it's quite possible to love "half jews," assuming they are righteous, love the jewish people, and, of course, are not nazis.

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

i wasn't aware of the Rigg book.  i need to read it.  but yes i do think it's quite possible to love "half jews," assuming they are righteous, love the jewish people, and, of course, are not nazis.

Giffords fails the test on all three counts.