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Italian Zionist's question
kahaneloyalist:
Italian Zionist wrote on ASK JTF
--- Quote ---"What is the primary mission for our generation to accomplish?
The main avodah of this generation is to go out to the final war of the golus, to conquer and to purify all the gentile countries (such that "and kingship will be Hashem's," Ovadiah 1:21)."
--Shabbos Parshas VaYelech, 5746
--- End quote ---
This means that the mission of Benai Yisrael in this generation is to show the entire world the path to Hashem, to be a light unto the nations. When the whole world accepts Hashem's Malchut the world will be purified and all will be drawn close to Hashem.
As for the Jesus quotes, I dont think its news that we Jews dont think highly of Jesus, while the Gemara may not be refering to your Jesus, it was a very common name at the time, if it is it shouldnt really come as a great surprise. Chaim follows a lenient opinion in regards to Christianity, the opinion of the Meiri, but other Jews like Lubavitch follow the opinion of the Rambam, that non-Jews should follow the Sheva Mitzvot Benai Noach, and through that serve Hashem, and it is our duty to bring the Goyim to the Sheva Mitzvot Benai Noach.
Lubab:
--- Quote from: kahaneloyalist on June 04, 2007, 02:00:49 AM ---Italian Zionist wrote on ASK JTF
--- Quote ---"What is the primary mission for our generation to accomplish?
The main avodah of this generation is to go out to the final war of the golus, to conquer and to purify all the gentile countries (such that "and kingship will be Hashem's," Ovadiah 1:21)."
--Shabbos Parshas VaYelech, 5746
--- End quote ---
Chaim follows a lenient opinion in regards to Christianity, the opinion of the Meiri, but other Jews like Lubavitch follow the opinion of the Rambam, that non-Jews should follow the Sheva Mitzvot Benai Noach, and through that serve Hashem, and it is our duty to bring the Goyim to the Sheva Mitzvot Benai Noach.
--- End quote ---
What does the Meriri say?
kahaneloyalist:
That Christianity is acceptable for the Goyim and any "civilized people" may be considered Ben Noach.
ftf:
As far as I know, Chrisitianity includes the laws of Noah, so I can't see what the issue is. I know full well what Jews think of Jesus, I also believe that the majority of Jews are going to accept as the messiah a very evil man, the one referred to as the beast or antichrist by some. You think the one we think is the messiah is evil we think that the one that you will think is the messiah is evil.
Lubab:
--- Quote from: ftf on June 05, 2007, 02:41:51 PM ---As far as I know, Chrisitianity includes the laws of Noah, so I can't see what the issue is. I know full well what Jews think of Jesus, I also believe that the majority of Jews are going to accept as the messiah a very evil man, the one referred to as the beast or antichrist by some. You think the one we think is the messiah is evil we think that the one that you will think is the messiah is evil.
--- End quote ---
I beleive that the Rambam's big problem with Christiantiy was not so much who they believe is the Messiah, but the belief in the trinity which he considered to be idol worship because you're saying there are other powers that are outside and can fight with G-d.
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